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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 24, 2018 14:55:02 GMT -5
I still don't understand how Yoda looks worse than he did in the Original Trilogy... This is the first time I saw that or new Yoda. I can’t put my finger on why that scene is so cringe. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 24, 2018 18:23:23 GMT -5
Avoiding the prequels so much, they won't even use that yoda model.. This is bad
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Post by Newan on Apr 26, 2018 18:54:42 GMT -5
Actually my theory has always been that the first Yoda we see is just a younger version of Yoda at a time long before the prequels. He's 900 years old in ROTJ so might be centuries earlier. The reason for them doing this would be so young Anakin appearing at the end of ROTJ isn't so weird and perhaps sets up young Anakin or Ewan Obi-Wan ghosts in episode 9. I think overall it's just to establish that ghosts are not tied to the apperance they died in.
We see the OT Yoda (the one Luke remembers) after anyways.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 27, 2018 8:17:21 GMT -5
Actually my theory has always been that the first Yoda we see is just a younger version of Yoda at a time long before the prequels. He's 900 years old in ROTJ so might be centuries earlier. The reason for them doing this would be so young Anakin appearing at the end of ROTJ isn't so weird and perhaps sets up young Anakin or Ewan Obi-Wan ghosts in episode 9. I think overall it's just to establish that ghosts are not tied to the apperance they died in. We see the OT Yoda (the one Luke remembers) after anyways. You are giving Rian Johnson too much credit. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 27, 2018 8:19:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand how Yoda looks worse than he did in the Original Trilogy... This is the first time I saw that or new Yoda. I can’t put my finger on why that scene is so cringe. Yes, I am not sure what it is either but Yoda looks (and acts) really weird. If I recall correctly this is the point in the movie where everything started getting really bad. This is the first thing I really hated about it. Until this scene everything was alright, then they showed this ridiculous Yoda and everything that followed was complete crap. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 27, 2018 12:39:15 GMT -5
This is the first time I saw that or new Yoda. I can’t put my finger on why that scene is so cringe. Yes, I am not sure what it is either but Yoda looks (and acts) really weird. If I recall correctly this is the point in the movie where everything started getting really bad. This is the first thing I really hated about it. Until this scene everything was alright, then they showed this ridiculous Yoda and everything that followed was complete crap. For me it was when Luke tossed the lightsaber. Although tried to think against it, I knew from then on I wasn't going to like what I saw. On another note, does anyone else notice that Daisy Ridley does an awful lot of unnecessary shouting in this? Because me and my sister went through clips and found she doesn't have any complex volume control. Or emotional control. She's either really angry when there's little reason she should be and very upset when there's little reason she should be. It's super weird. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 27, 2018 12:51:55 GMT -5
Actually my theory has always been that the first Yoda we see is just a younger version of Yoda at a time long before the prequels. He's 900 years old in ROTJ so might be centuries earlier. The reason for them doing this would be so young Anakin appearing at the end of ROTJ isn't so weird and perhaps sets up young Anakin or Ewan Obi-Wan ghosts in episode 9. I think overall it's just to establish that ghosts are not tied to the apperance they died in. We see the OT Yoda (the one Luke remembers) after anyways. You are giving Rian Johnson too much credit. It's not that hard to figure out though, the change to make Anakin young in the special editions has long been a point of controversy. Especially when we still have old Kenobi and Yoda beside him |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 27, 2018 13:49:16 GMT -5
You are giving Rian Johnson too much credit. It's not that hard to figure out though, the change to make Anakin young in the special editions has long been a point of controversy. Especially when we still have old Kenobi and Yoda beside him Judging by how hard the rest of the movie tried to cut ties with the earlier films (especially the prequels) I highly doubt Johnson thought about this. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 27, 2018 13:53:44 GMT -5
Yes, I am not sure what it is either but Yoda looks (and acts) really weird. If I recall correctly this is the point in the movie where everything started getting really bad. This is the first thing I really hated about it. Until this scene everything was alright, then they showed this ridiculous Yoda and everything that followed was complete crap. For me it was when Luke tossed the lightsaber. Although tried to think against it, I knew from then on I wasn't going to like what I saw. On another note, does anyone else notice that Daisy Ridley does an awful lot of unnecessary shouting in this? Because me and my sister went through clips and found she doesn't have any complex volume control. Or emotional control. She's either really angry when there's little reason she should be and very upset when there's little reason she should be. It's super weird. The lightsaber toss and the "prank call" at the beginning of the movie definitely lowered my expectations. But everything that happened between that moment up until Yoda's appearance was fine. The second half of the movie is what makes it so bad. The first half is kind of boring, but I did not dislike it that much. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 27, 2018 16:05:42 GMT -5
About to watch this finally...
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 27, 2018 18:59:39 GMT -5
This movie sucked. Total cringefest with sjw subtext. Star Wars is dead.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 27, 2018 19:09:37 GMT -5
Beginning and Canto Bight stuff feels like a filler episode... It doesn't even make sense. They wrote themselves into a corner with the hyperspace tracking. How is it possible that the Resistance ships stayed out of range of the First Order for multiple days while Finn and Rose went on their stupid little side quest? The First Order could literally just move their own ships closer and destroy them... what the fuck....... This DJ character immediately agrees to help them with no persuasion? Who the hell is this guy anyway..
Luke's character was butchered and his death was kinda lame... As was Snoke's. All this build up to everything just to end it in the stupidest ways possible...
Yeah pretty much the entire movie felt like a bad filler in some tv show... And how does the Reistance suddenly only have like 3 ships? Did they not have a whole fleet in the last movie as well as the Yavin base? And they should have many more resources they are better equipped than the Rebel Alliance
Phasma was pointless. Everything was pointless. And what the absolute fuck was that lightsaber toy commercial ending with the cringey kids? Worst ending to any of these movies. Worst movie.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 27, 2018 19:13:29 GMT -5
Things I liked:
- Space Monaco actually had a great design. The streets looked beautiful wish we saw more honestly. Might as well have spent more time there since the whole movie was a mess. I think I recognized some familiar sounds as well from like speeders and sirens
- Kylo and Rey vs the guards. Fight was cool.
I think that's it. The porgs were dumb as well as the rest of the "humor" they feel compelled to write in. This shouldn't be a fucking marvel movie. General Hugs wtf so much cringe
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 27, 2018 19:16:59 GMT -5
This trilogy should've started with the rise of the First Order and the Resistance. No 30 year time gap... Literally the only reason for that was to show the main 3. What's even the point they're all getting killed off anyway...
The prequels are so much better than the sequels
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 28, 2018 10:02:05 GMT -5
Also I'm not sure if I liked Poe in this one.. idk why...
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Post by Newan on Apr 28, 2018 17:19:27 GMT -5
It's not that hard to figure out though, the change to make Anakin young in the special editions has long been a point of controversy. Especially when we still have old Kenobi and Yoda beside him Judging by how hard the rest of the movie tried to cut ties with the earlier films (especially the prequels) I highly doubt Johnson thought about this. Not if we end up seeing other Force Ghosts in episode 9. I guess we will see then. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 30, 2018 11:59:50 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution...
Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely shit on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no
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Post by Newan on Apr 30, 2018 14:20:41 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution... Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely Potato Rules on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no On November 9, 2017, it was confirmed that Johnson will create a new Star Wars trilogy to be set in a different corner of the Star Wars universe, the first film of which he is to write and direcT" |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 30, 2018 15:22:31 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution... Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely Potato Rules on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no On November 9, 2017, it was confirmed that Johnson will create a new Star Wars trilogy to be set in a different corner of the Star Wars universe, the first film of which he is to write and direcT" Great |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2018 15:50:26 GMT -5
So we have 3 Han Solo movies, 3 Rian movies, 3 D&D movies, Star Wars 9 and Kenobi coming.
Guess this is what Star Wars is now.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 30, 2018 16:27:19 GMT -5
So we have 3 Han Solo movies, 3 Rian movies, 3 D&D movies, Star Wars 9 and Kenobi coming. Guess this is what Star Wars is now. 3 Han movies? At first I kind of liked that they were putting out more content than ever before but it seems now that all of it is trash... |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2018 17:34:30 GMT -5
So we have 3 Han Solo movies, 3 Rian movies, 3 D&D movies, Star Wars 9 and Kenobi coming. Guess this is what Star Wars is now. 3 Han movies? At first I kind of liked that they were putting out more content than ever before but it seems now that all of it is trash... Yeah the Solo actor said so a few weeks ago :/ |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 30, 2018 18:44:51 GMT -5
3 Han movies? At first I kind of liked that they were putting out more content than ever before but it seems now that all of it is trash... Yeah the Solo actor said so a few weeks ago :/ Well those may not be bad, it's just stuff after ROTJ |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 30, 2018 18:48:09 GMT -5
Yeah the Solo actor said so a few weeks ago :/ Well those may not be bad, it's just stuff after ROTJ That would be weird IMO. To have his timeline overlapping with Harrison Ford. |
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Post by Star on Apr 30, 2018 20:50:33 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution... Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely Potato Rules on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. If anything, Snoke's death was the biggest shock in Star Wars besides Vader's reveal to Luke in TESB. By having Snoke die, Kylo's character was able to evolve even more. It gives him a much more conflicted and unprecedented personality in the franchise (Anakin in the prequels wasn't quite the same manner). In addition, Kylo, a very reckless yet powerful individual, is now in control of the First Order; this has defied expectations and taken the story (for better or worse) in a new direction, rather than being a strict rip-off of TESB or ROTJ. There are some inherent similarities, but nothing as obvious as TFA compared to ANH. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2018 5:16:52 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution... Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely Potato Rules on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. If anything, Snoke's death was the biggest shock in Star Wars besides Vader's reveal to Luke in TESB. By having Snoke die, Kylo's character was able to evolve even more. It gives him a much more conflicted and unprecedented personality in the franchise (Anakin in the prequels wasn't quite the same manner). In addition, Kylo, a very reckless yet powerful individual, is now in control of the First Order; this has defied expectations and taken the story (for better or worse) in a new direction, rather than being a strict rip-off of TESB or ROTJ. There are some inherent similarities, but nothing as obvious as TFA compared to ANH. It feels like lazy writing. Yet another useless and uninteresting character in the movie... Unless they have plans for "prequels" that give him a backstory.. And actually I think it's even more of a rip off of ROTJ. The Emperor was an unknown character as well and Vader killed him which saved Luke. This was pretty much exactly the same just with different motives for each character. |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2018 6:38:39 GMT -5
I think I'm post disappointed about Snoke's death. I don't see how people can defend it... There was so much buildup for the character, people just knew he was someone they've seen before and just like that he's dead... No backstory or any significant contribution... Luke milking that animal thing was so cringy... why would they show that honestly Rian Johnson completely Potato Rules on Star Wars. Wasn't he supposed to direct the next trilogy? Please no Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. He was a really old darkside user that came out of nowhere and was arguably more powerful than Sheev. That has to be explained, even if he is not going to be a major figure. |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2018 6:42:07 GMT -5
Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. If anything, Snoke's death was the biggest shock in Star Wars besides Vader's reveal to Luke in TESB. By having Snoke die, Kylo's character was able to evolve even more. It gives him a much more conflicted and unprecedented personality in the franchise (Anakin in the prequels wasn't quite the same manner). In addition, Kylo, a very reckless yet powerful individual, is now in control of the First Order; this has defied expectations and taken the story (for better or worse) in a new direction, rather than being a strict rip-off of TESB or ROTJ. There are some inherent similarities, but nothing as obvious as TFA compared to ANH. It feels like lazy writing. Yet another useless and uninteresting character in the movie... Unless they have plans for "prequels" that give him a backstory.. And actually I think it's even more of a rip off of ROTJ. The Emperor was an unknown character as well and Vader killed him which saved Luke. This was pretty much exactly the same just with different motives for each character. Except the Emperor being an unknown character was fine at the time. There was no established universe. But the sequels take place in a world we already know. Things like this have to be explained properly. They can do prequels, but unless they are going to fit main movies in between the OT and ST it wouldn't work. If you see these three trilogies as one story it just doesn't make sense. Imagine if they did the prequels without any mention of Palpatine or an Empire, and the suddenly he is there in the OT. That wouldn't make sense either. |
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Post by Star on May 5, 2018 9:16:10 GMT -5
Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. If anything, Snoke's death was the biggest shock in Star Wars besides Vader's reveal to Luke in TESB. By having Snoke die, Kylo's character was able to evolve even more. It gives him a much more conflicted and unprecedented personality in the franchise (Anakin in the prequels wasn't quite the same manner). In addition, Kylo, a very reckless yet powerful individual, is now in control of the First Order; this has defied expectations and taken the story (for better or worse) in a new direction, rather than being a strict rip-off of TESB or ROTJ. There are some inherent similarities, but nothing as obvious as TFA compared to ANH. It feels like lazy writing. Yet another useless and uninteresting character in the movie... Unless they have plans for "prequels" that give him a backstory.. And actually I think it's even more of a rip off of ROTJ. The Emperor was an unknown character as well and Vader killed him which saved Luke. This was pretty much exactly the same just with different motives for each character. There's always going to be certain elements that seem like a rip-off to the OT, because those parts are so common in any storytelling. Yes, TLJ does have other elements it takes from TESB and ROTJ, but I don't think it's as glaring as TFA with ANH. Even still, the prequels mirrored the originals in many ways (some subtle) and the sequels are doing a similar thing. I don't think that's strictly bad, since it provides the "poetry" vibe Lucas mentioned, and gives the films a stronger thematic connection to one another. |
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Post by Star on May 5, 2018 9:23:57 GMT -5
Snoke was never officially meant to be a major figure. Speculation by fans is the main reason for people being disappointed with his death. People thought he was the next version of the Emperor. All we really knew was that he rose to power in the First Order sometime before TFA and was now Supreme Leader. He was a really old darkside user that came out of nowhere and was arguably more powerful than Sheev. That has to be explained, even if he is not going to be a major figure. I agree that I wish Snoke received some more explanation before his death. However, there is still IX and potentially a TV series, book, or film to offer more insight to who he is. It's tough to fully judge these things when there are many pieces still missing from the picture that might be (or not) resolved later. TLJ wasn't relying solely on revealing more about Snoke in order to be a success or failure, but this aspect seemed worse to a lot of people, since he was teased a lot in TFA and expectations were high. |
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