Last Jedi spoiler thread

So apparently it is confirmed that there were no plans for this trilogy. They just made Force Awakens with no idea of what would happen next. They had no plans for Snoke or Rey's parents, no idea what they would do with Kylo or Rey. They had no vision beyond the first movie. They just made things up as they went along... That's probably why this movie sucks...

Yeah, like Spidey said, Lucas too made it up as he went along, but yeah, considering how concise Disney can be with planning out films, this a real drop of the ball from them in how poorly executed this is.

Me and my brother agreed a Peter Jackson, or Sam Raimi led trilogy would've been a ball

I love the clip where he goes off and then realizes he's probably being filmed... not sure if it was in this video but it was kinda funny in a sad way.

So after seeing the movie again, I feel better about some of the more controversial moments. Luke's "death" in particular is starting to sit a bit better with me (just as long as he's back for 9). However, seeing it again made me hate the Canto Bight moments even more. They had no effect on the story (they didn't disable the tracker, they failed, Holdo was the one who disabled it) and some of Rose and DJ's dialogue was poorly written and a bit too goofy. I like the design of the Fathiers, but that whole chase scene was stupid. And I still don't like how the movie ends on broom boy.

With all that said, the throne room scene and Praetorian Guard fight is definitely one of my favorite Star Wars scenes.

Oh, yeah, I can't be the only one who found the milking scene to be flat out disgusting?

Especially where the... udders were...

Da fuq

i milk u any time bb

Just got back from the movie... personally I liked it, better than TFA because it was original but TFA is cool mainly cause Harrison kills it (hehe), Han was probably the main character of TFA imo. Whereas this movie is pretty evenly split between Poe, Finn and Rey, maybe even Kylo to some degree.

Pros:
- That fight with Rey and Kylo was sick
- Personally I really liked Poe, I think he's the most relatable for me
- Everything with Luke was pretty cool especially his last few scenes
- Falcon chase scene with the ROTJ music was pretty nostalgic and awesome
- Overall Kylo was made to be just so much of a better character, he wasn't a whiny episode 2 Anakin (ok that might be a bit extreme)
- Yoda scene was cool, I really wanted to see Anakin and Obi-Wan but I liked that they showed a young Yoda first, it makes the end of ROTJ (special edition) more fluid that perhaps the ghosts can change their age and perhaps setting up Ewan or Hayden younger ghosts for the next movie?
- I liked that Kylo was 100% a better combatant compared to Rey, I knew the reason he struggled in TFA was because of that giant hole in his side from Chewie Blaster.
- Chewie was a really good pilot of the Falcon, I mean we already knew this but they basically made Rey the pilot in TFA.
- Lukes kind of nostalgic scenes where he baords the Falcon and stuff I thought was pretty cool.
- Phasma died, such a stupid character. They tried to make her some kind of badass Boba Fett character that just had to stand there and loook cool and she failed.

Cons:
- Leia was in this movie WAY too much... sorry to sound harsh but after Carrie passed they needed to cut some of her scenes, there's no good way to just remove her from the last movie now. And she's basically the last mentor figure left.
- Snoke overall is sort of underwhelming, yeah I don't see him getting a SWGoH character....
- The kids being included felt kinda weird mainly the last scene
- Rose? Umm yeah not sure what to think of her, maybe not a con but I'm just not sure if she has a purpose anymore. Should have just killed her or killed Finn.
- Rey still has Mary Sue aspects... she just somehow perfectly used the Falcons guns and hardly missed while Finn, Luke and even Han (who owned the Falcon how long?) were not nearly that good.




Also I really thought Lando would get a cameo at the casino scene, but seems to be no love for Lando sadly. Also I'm glad they made Luke pretty damn powerful to be able to appear in two places like that.


In general I liked the humor though, Hux was made too be a little too silly at times. Though I did really like the opening Poe and Hux exchange and I liked the "Do you think you got him?".

And Luke will obviously be back in the last movie of this trilogy just as a force ghost, probably even appear to Kylo.


See I still think Kylo is kind of good and can be redeemed... but without Carrie (Leia) I'm just not sure how they can pull it off. She's basically like the last thing he has left.

Yeah I think Disney straight up said Leia wouldn't be in episode 9... so it's pretty hard to do anything with her character now. It would have been interesting if Leia died in TFA instead of Han now

At this point, I doubt Lando will appear in IX, but it would be great if he did. They could have it where news will reach him of the deaths of Han and Luke, causing him to rejoin the fight against an "Empire". It would also help fill the major hole of Leia not appearing, and give Chewbacca someone to be with (perhaps on the Falcon). VII and VIII occur within a matter of weeks, so it's not illogical for Lando to not be seen or mentioned.

I love how some people desperately defending TLJ are now saying to look at it as a fun kids movie instead of an adult one to discover how good it is, despite the one little problem I, and probably a few others have with that.

Kids.

Still.

Deserve.

Better.

Too.

I still don't think it's quite up there with Anakin's immolation, but yeah, some stuff in this was pretty hard core. Kinda shows how rating standards have changed. Some of the violence here would've gotten it a 15 rating in the UK if it were released some years ago. These days you can get away with almost anything, whilst maintaining a 12/PG-13 rating, so long as the bloodshed isn't too hefty