Last Jedi spoiler thread

I'm weak and read some of the major spoilers despite having my tickets for Thursday night. Let's just say.... I'm hoping some things will work better on screen than on paper (which is why I sort of regret reading the spoilers).

Nothing is revealed about his identity.

So... I really enjoyed the first half of the movie... The whole resistance plot was kind of pointless... But I did not mind it too much. Luke giving Sheev a shoutout was cool. The Rey-Ren connection was interesting, as was the old Jedi Temple. And while there were ESB elements in this movie it was not a rip-off. Nor was it as bad as TFA. The plot was not predictable, which is both good and bad... because at some points the plot was unpredictable because of how bad it was...

Things started going down hill when Yoda showed up (where were Anakin and Obi-wan?). He just burned the Jedi Temple before we even learned what was so important about it. Then Rey and Ren face Snoke... Which was interesting. Snoke seemed so strong, surely he is going to be involved in a great final batt- And he's dead. Seriously for an extremely powerful immortal force users he really died easily... How did he not notice what Kylo was planning? This guy even knew how Sheev died, did he not learn anything from that? Fucking idiot.

So yeah, Snoke was a disappointment. His character was of no importance to the story, we still don't know where he suddenly came from... and to make things even more confusing Kylo refers to him as Sith? Or at least he seems to imply the Sith died with Snoke... not with Sheev. This just raises more questions... and unless Snoke is going to put himself back together (he looked pretty dead, but he seemed OP, so who knows) we will probably not find out in episode 9 because Snoke will be irrelevant to the story. Also, Snoke's death became insignificant because it did not redeem Kylo, it just made him more evil.

Then they revealed Rey's parents... I hope this is not all there is to it, because if it is they messed up another mystery. Rey's parents are a bunch of random criminal idiots who sold her for drugs money? Bullshit. I feel like they intentionally mocked fans in that scene. This does not explain why she is so powerful in the force nor does it explain the Ren-Rey connection in TFA.

Then resistance plot just dragged on for no reason... It was evacuation after evacuation, space battle after space battle... and it was just not interesting to watch at all. Also, what happened to the Republic? There was a New Republic right? But it somehow got destroyed between episode 7 and 8? Not that much time passed... So in like 2 weeks (at the most) the First Order wiped out the Republic with only <1000 people left to fight for the Resistance? That's even more bullshit.

Well then Luke came to save the day. He fought Kylo Ren and a bunch of AT-ATs and should have died... Except he didn't because they pulled a Sherlock and he wasn't really there at all it was just an illusion... But then he still died anyway? So why bother doing the whole illusion thing? Also why is he calling Rey a Jedi? Why did he change his mind about how the Jedi should end? He never explained this. And didn't Yoda tell him to go teach Rey? Sure he can do that as a force ghost... but wouldn't that be more convenient when you are alive? I mean Obi-wan could not train Luke after he died. Also how do force ghosts even work now? Yoda's ghost seemed more powerful than living Yoda... he could control the weather and hit Luke with a stick... Speaking of that stick... is his stick also a ghost? Did he bring it with him into the force afterlife? Anyway, this ending was some confusing bullshit too. And Disney killed off the wrong OT characters I guess... because only Leia is around at the end... well and Chewie but he basically did nothing except torture Porgs in this movie.

I seriously wonder how they are going to make Episode 9 interesting. This was basically this trilogy's ROTJ. They already killed Snoke... That was like the main challenge in my opinion... Kylo is not even 10% of Snoke.

Dang that sucks...

Was hoping to see Anakin as a ghost

So, did you watch the movie?

lol, the cinema in my city never seems crowded. I think 80% of the seats were empty. 

And yeah, Obi-wan's voice is in TFA but its really hard to notice. 

I have no idea what to make of this movie currently. A lot happened, but it also felt like not much happened. It was bold and mostly unique, but also a little too radical for a Star Wars film. I need more time and viewings to better figure out my thoughts on it.

The Battle of Crait was really good though, but to me the best part of the movie was the Supremacy scenes in the throne room. I was disappointed when I found out that Snoke would die so soon, but the scene in context is amazing, along with the music and the fight scene against the Praetorian Guards that follows. That whole moment might be one of my favorite Star Wars scenes of all time.

While the throne room was my favorite action scene, the Luke/Yoda scene was my favorite talking scene. The Yoda puppet was a bit awkward, but you kind of get used to it later on. But I love how the scene just ends with Luke and Yoda chilling out in the grass and watching the sacred Jedi library burn to the ground.

And I swear... there better not be 1 million new theories about who the broom boy is....

His death made no sense... He might as well have been there in person... I don't see how this "force projection" thing mattered if he died anyway.

I agree that the Praetorian guard fight was good... But Snoke's death definitely wasn't. Most powerful force users we have ever seen dies after <5 minutes of in-person screen time? It's just stupid... His death was almost comical. He was too certain Kylo would never turn on him, it made no sense since he knew how Palpatine died (and Palpatine was not boasting as much as this guy).

The Praetorian Guard scene would have been so much more powerful if they turned out to be the Knights of Ren. Then when Kylo killed Snoke, they could have had the guards all take off their masks and tell Kylo how they followed him ever since the days they destroyed Luke's Jedi Academy. It would better display how Kylo was really turning his back on what he'd spent the past several years trying to achieve. Kylo would also have more opportunity to expand his character as well as expose Rey to more of what occurred in the past.

Yeah, I loved the idea of the Leia scene, but they should have went about it in a different way. My favorite description of it that I've seen online is "Carrie Poppins".

I don't know if you guys read about this, but one of the first credible rumors for The Last Jedi was for a scene that didn't happen in the film. Kylo and the Knights of Ren show up on Ahch-To, Luke dispatches the Knights with ease, and Kylo and Rey fight each other. Kylo either wins or has a stalemate, and then runs off before Luke gets to him.

I'm disappointed this didn't end up happening... but I guess it would have been too predictable. But still, has everyone forgotten that the Knights of Ren exist? I guess they're the handful of students that Luke said Kylo took with him.