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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:43:54 GMT -5
I Say Obi-Wan. Cut Savage's arm off, cut Maul in half, And made Grievous and Anakin Catch on fire.. and cut Anakin's left arm and legs... And Anakin bested the best Makashi practitioner of all time plus Cin Drallig, one of the greatest blademasters in the Order, along with dozens of Masters,Knights and Padawans. Obi Wan's victory over Savage is no accomplishment and defeating Maul was a fluke. Defeating Grievous was also a fluke. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:45:39 GMT -5
You do know that it has to come true right? Obi Wan defeating Anakin in this scenario ( would never happen) would result in Anakin's death, which would result in the events in the Original Trilogy never happening and Emperor ruling the galaxy This isn't a canon duel............. we're just seeing who would actually win... none of that prophecy thing matters here..... Yes it does |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:00:36 GMT -5
I Say Obi-Wan. Cut Savage's arm off, cut Maul in half, And made Grievous and Anakin Catch on fire.. and cut Anakin's left arm and legs... And Anakin bested the best Makashi practitioner of all time plus Cin Drallig, one of the greatest blademasters in the Order, along with dozens of Masters,Knights and Padawans. Obi Wan's victory over Savage is no accomplishment and defeating Maul was a fluke. Defeating Grievous was also a fluke. If Grievous didn't have his "Wheel bike" thing he would have died sooner. Obi-Wan cut of two of his hand in less than a minute. Also, remember that giant force push? Grievous was lucky to escape. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:03:30 GMT -5
And Anakin bested the best Makashi practitioner of all time plus Cin Drallig, one of the greatest blademasters in the Order, along with dozens of Masters,Knights and Padawans. Obi Wan's victory over Savage is no accomplishment and defeating Maul was a fluke. Defeating Grievous was also a fluke. If Grievous didn't have his "Wheel bike" thing he would have died sooner. Obi-Wan cut of two of his hand in less than a minute. Also, remember that giant force push? Grievous was lucky to escape. Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence easily and Obi Wan had to go on the offensive. Soresu is weak |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:05:29 GMT -5
Also, Whenever Grievous fights Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars he gets his ass kicked. Obi-Wan defeated Maul and Savage in Revival and defeated Anakin in 3. Like Nam said, Obi-Wan lost in revenge because he was already beaten and wasn't focused.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:07:29 GMT -5
Also, Whenever Grievous fights Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars he gets his ass kicked. Obi-Wan defeated Maul and Savage in Revival and defeated Anakin in 3. Like Nam said, Obi-Wan lost in revenge because he was already beaten and wasn't focused. Savage has no technique, so of course Obi Wan can defeat him. And the ROTS book (higher canon than TCW) states that Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence within minutes. Anakin was defeated because he was overconfident and Obi Wan had the high ground. And Obi Wan would have lost in Revenge either way |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:09:17 GMT -5
Also, Whenever Grievous fights Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars he gets his ass kicked. Obi-Wan defeated Maul and Savage in Revival and defeated Anakin in 3. Like Nam said, Obi-Wan lost in revenge because he was already beaten and wasn't focused. Savage has no technique, so of course Obi Wan can defeat him. And the ROTS book (higher canon than TCW) states that Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence within minutes. Anakin was defeated because he was overconfident and Obi Wan had the high ground. And Obi Wan would have lost in Revenge either way In Episode 1, Maul had "the high ground" and we know how that turned out. |
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 16:11:58 GMT -5
Yeah, you can't say Anakin would win because of a prophecy... this is a battle based purely on skill.
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 16:13:27 GMT -5
There are no "flukes" in duels. If you win you win. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half. That is a victory. Obi-Wan shot Grievous dead. That is a victory, especially since Grievous already ran away. You really can't seriously be saying that Grievous was winning, because he wasn't. Obi-Wan was cutting his arms off with ease.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:13:31 GMT -5
Savage has no technique, so of course Obi Wan can defeat him. And the ROTS book (higher canon than TCW) states that Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence within minutes. Anakin was defeated because he was overconfident and Obi Wan had the high ground. And Obi Wan would have lost in Revenge either way In Episode 1, Maul had "the high ground" and we know how that turned out. Only because Qui-Gon's lightsaber was conveniently very close to Kenobi |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:14:01 GMT -5
There are no "flukes" in duels. If you win you win. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half. That is a victory. Obi-Wan shot Grievous dead. That is a victory, especially since Grievous already ran away. You really can't seriously be saying that Grievous was winning, because he wasn't. Obi-Wan was cutting his arms off with ease. Grievous overpowered his defence |
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 16:14:27 GMT -5
There are no "flukes" in duels. If you win you win. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half. That is a victory. Obi-Wan shot Grievous dead. That is a victory, especially since Grievous already ran away. You really can't seriously be saying that Grievous was winning, because he wasn't. Obi-Wan was cutting his arms off with ease. Grievous overpowered his defence Doesn't matter, Obi-Wan was on the offensive nearly the entire time. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:15:12 GMT -5
Grievous overpowered his defence Doesn't matter, Obi-Wan was on the offensive nearly the entire time. Because Grievous overpowered his defence |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:16:41 GMT -5
There are no "flukes" in duels. If you win you win. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half. That is a victory. Obi-Wan shot Grievous dead. That is a victory, especially since Grievous already ran away. You really can't seriously be saying that Grievous was winning, because he wasn't. Obi-Wan was cutting his arms off with ease. There is. In his duel with Maul, Qui Gon's saber was conveniently close to him. Similar story in the Grievous vs Obi Wan match |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:20:10 GMT -5
Also, Obi-Wan has defeated Ventress on numerous occasions.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:21:10 GMT -5
Also, Obi-Wan has defeated Ventress on numerous occasions. So? We know that IF Anakin duelled Ventress as a padawan, he would have defeated her |
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 16:23:04 GMT -5
There are no "flukes" in duels. If you win you win. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half. That is a victory. Obi-Wan shot Grievous dead. That is a victory, especially since Grievous already ran away. You really can't seriously be saying that Grievous was winning, because he wasn't. Obi-Wan was cutting his arms off with ease. There is. In his duel with Maul, Qui Gon's saber was conveniently close to him. Similar story in the Grievous vs Obi Wan match So Grievous running away on his Wheel Bike doesn't make that a fluke then? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:24:09 GMT -5
There is. In his duel with Maul, Qui Gon's saber was conveniently close to him. Similar story in the Grievous vs Obi Wan match So Grievous running away on his Wheel Bike doesn't make that a fluke then? No, a blaster lying conveniently opposite of Kenobi makes it a fluke |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 16:24:39 GMT -5
Also, Whenever Grievous fights Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars he gets his ass kicked. Obi-Wan defeated Maul and Savage in Revival and defeated Anakin in 3. Like Nam said, Obi-Wan lost in revenge because he was already beaten and wasn't focused. Savage has no technique, so of course Obi Wan can defeat him. And the ROTS book (higher canon than TCW) states that Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence within minutes. Anakin was defeated because he was overconfident and Obi Wan had the high ground. And Obi Wan would have lost in Revenge either way How the HECK is the ROTS novel higher canon than TCW? It's canon, yes, higher than most books, but TCW is just as high as the films. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:24:54 GMT -5
Also, Obi-Wan has defeated Ventress on numerous occasions. So? We know that IF Anakin duelled Ventress as a padawan, he would have defeated her When did Anakin defeat Ventress as a padawan? Yavin? If that's the case then that's true, but she had the upper hand the most of the duel. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 16:25:15 GMT -5
I just don't like Mauls death because it contradicts Anakin and obi-Wan on the high ground..... Maul had the high ground so what?
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:26:15 GMT -5
Savage has no technique, so of course Obi Wan can defeat him. And the ROTS book (higher canon than TCW) states that Grievous overpowered Obi Wan's defence within minutes. Anakin was defeated because he was overconfident and Obi Wan had the high ground. And Obi Wan would have lost in Revenge either way How the HECK is the ROTS novel higher canon than TCW? It's canon, yes, higher than most books, but TCW is just as high as the films. 1. It expands G-Canon and doesn't contradict things in G-Canon 2. TCW is not as high as the films, as it expands upon them, but not to a greater extent than the ROTS novel, therefore the ROTS novel is higher canon |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 16:26:24 GMT -5
I just don't like Mauls death because it contradicts Anakin and obi-Wan on the high ground..... Maul had the high ground so what? Maul wasn't as smart as Obi-Wan, and it's harder to cut off limbs with a double-bladed lightsaber than it is with a single blade. |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 16:26:57 GMT -5
How the HECK is the ROTS novel higher canon than TCW? It's canon, yes, higher than most books, but TCW is just as high as the films. 1. It expands G-Canon and doesn't contradict things in G-Canon 2. TCW is not as high as the films, as it expands upon them, but not to a greater extent than the ROTS novel, therefore the ROTS novel is higher canon TCW is G-canon. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 16:27:07 GMT -5
On a sidenote, Ventress lost one of her lightsabers on Teth, but somehow got it back. Explain.
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 16:31:32 GMT -5
I just don't like Mauls death because it contradicts Anakin and obi-Wan on the high ground..... Maul had the high ground so what? Maul wasn't as smart as Obi-Wan, and it's harder to cut off limbs with a double-bladed lightsaber than it is with a single blade. You don't need to cut off a limb swing anywhere would do. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:32:54 GMT -5
1. It expands G-Canon and doesn't contradict things in G-Canon 2. TCW is not as high as the films, as it expands upon them, but not to a greater extent than the ROTS novel, therefore the ROTS novel is higher canon TCW is G-canon. Nope. It is T-Canon. G-Canon>T-Canon ROTS Novel wins |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 16:38:27 GMT -5
Nope. It is T-Canon. G-Canon>T-Canon ROTS Novel wins Leland Chee has stated it is G-canon. G-canon is anything created by George himself. Therefore, it is G-canon. So is ROTS, but not as much, since it's not fully like the movie. T-canon would be video games and the old CW series. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 16:42:15 GMT -5
Nope. It is T-Canon. G-Canon>T-Canon ROTS Novel wins Leland Chee has stated it is G-canon. G-canon is anything created by George himself. Therefore, it is G-canon. So is ROTS, but not as much, since it's not fully like the movie. T-canon would be video games and the old CW series. No, Leland Chee created T-Canon because he felt that he needed things that were lower than G-Canon but higher than C-Canon. TCW is T-Canon starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#Canon_in_the_Holocron_continuity_database |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 18, 2014 16:45:36 GMT -5
If Obi-Wan sucks so much, how come he survived everything and Anakin was the one to die first...
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