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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 13:09:48 GMT -5
It proves IF Anakin went up against Ventress as a padawan, he would have prevailed How? it's not canon. However it demonstrates Anakin's skills as a padawan and how they could go up against Ventress. Although Ventress dying was non-canon, the skills shown by him in that duel can be considered canon |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 13:12:46 GMT -5
However it demonstrates Anakin's skills as a padawan and how they could go up against Ventress. Although Ventress dying was non-canon, the skills shown by him in that duel can be considered canon I guess so in a way  Originally this battle was going to be Revan vs Obi-Wan though I thought that was kinda unbalanced and Anakin vs Obi-Wan is a better finale  |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 13:26:36 GMT -5
However it demonstrates Anakin's skills as a padawan and how they could go up against Ventress. Although Ventress dying was non-canon, the skills shown by him in that duel can be considered canon I guess so in a way Originally this battle was going to be Revan vs Obi-Wan though I thought that was kinda unbalanced and Anakin vs Obi-Wan is a better finale Is there a free-for-all at the end of the Season? |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 13:34:44 GMT -5
I guess so in a way Originally this battle was going to be Revan vs Obi-Wan though I thought that was kinda unbalanced and Anakin vs Obi-Wan is a better finale Is there a free-for-all at the end of the Season? Not sure but I don't think so. |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 13:38:56 GMT -5
I consider Obi-Wan to be one of the best fighters in the universe, and the best Jedi.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 13:40:19 GMT -5
I consider Obi-Wan to be one of the best fighters in the universe, and the best Jedi. But Anakin is stronger with a saber and with the force... |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 13:43:52 GMT -5
I consider Obi-Wan to be one of the best fighters in the universe, and the best Jedi. But Anakin is stronger with a saber and with the force... He had the potential to do so, but never fulfilled it. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 13:45:37 GMT -5
But Anakin is stronger with a saber and with the force... He had the potential to do so, but never fulfilled it. Maybe force wise, but his skill with a lightsaber was almost unparalleled at the time of ROTS, probably only matched by Sidious, Yoda and Mace, who were all extremely powerful. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 13:50:16 GMT -5
I consider Obi-Wan to be one of the best fighters in the universe, and the best Jedi. Best Jedi HA no. Maybe in terms of Pure Jedi that never turned to the dark side and came back but not best Jedi. |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 13:53:02 GMT -5
I consider Obi-Wan to be one of the best fighters in the universe, and the best Jedi. Best Jedi HA no. Maybe in terms of Pure Jedi that never turned to the dark side and came back but not best Jedi. Who's the best Jedi then? Other than Ahsoka and Yoda, who else? Nope. Not Mace, who was basically everything wrong with the Jedi. Not anyone else. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 13:56:09 GMT -5
Best Jedi HA no. Maybe in terms of Pure Jedi that never turned to the dark side and came back but not best Jedi. Who's the best Jedi then? Other than Ahsoka and Yoda, who else? Nope. Not Mace, who was basically everything wrong with the Jedi. Not anyone else. Luke Skywalker or one of the ancient jedi |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 13:57:50 GMT -5
Who's the best Jedi then? Other than Ahsoka and Yoda, who else? Nope. Not Mace, who was basically everything wrong with the Jedi. Not anyone else. Luke Skywalker or one of the ancient jedi Fine, Luke. But we don't know much about the ancient Jedi, I'm talking about the saga era. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 13:57:52 GMT -5
Best Jedi HA no. Maybe in terms of Pure Jedi that never turned to the dark side and came back but not best Jedi. Who's the best Jedi then? Other than Ahsoka and Yoda, who else? Nope. Not Mace, who was basically everything wrong with the Jedi. Not anyone else. Luke or Revan. Both hands down better than Obi-Wan. IMO Revan is probably the 2nd or 3rd best Force user of all time. |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 13:58:32 GMT -5
Who's the best Jedi then? Other than Ahsoka and Yoda, who else? Nope. Not Mace, who was basically everything wrong with the Jedi. Not anyone else. Luke or Revan. Both hands down better than Obi-Wan. IMO Revan is probably the 2nd or 3rd best Force user of all time. I'm not talking about Force power. And lol Revan turned to the Dark Side so that automatically means he's not a good Jedi. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 14:01:09 GMT -5
Luke or Revan. Both hands down better than Obi-Wan. IMO Revan is probably the 2nd or 3rd best Force user of all time. I'm not talking about Force power. And lol Revan turned to the Dark Side so that automatically means he's not a good Jedi. He was in the presence of the most powerful Sith of that era so he really didn't have a choice. Plus, even we he knew the Jedi used him, he stayed with the light |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 14:03:41 GMT -5
Luke or Revan. Both hands down better than Obi-Wan. IMO Revan is probably the 2nd or 3rd best Force user of all time. I'm not talking about Force power. And lol Revan turned to the Dark Side so that automatically means he's not a good Jedi. It can still be viewed as a matter of opinion he was close to the Dark side much like Anakin in TCW but the Emperor broke his mind and Malak's so really the choice was not completely there own. And how many other people in Star Wars went from Jedi - Sith Lord - Jedi and actually lived? |
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 14:56:07 GMT -5
Obi-Wan would beat Anakin. Obi-Wan's beaten Maul on multiple occasions, Savage, Grievous, and then of course Anakin on Mustafar. Anakin really wasn't super powerful during ROTS. He could have been really powerful like Nam said, but he didn't fulfill it because Obi-Wan left him in pieces.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 14:59:24 GMT -5
Obi-Wan would beat Anakin. Obi-Wan's beaten Maul on multiple occasions, Savage, Grievous, and then of course Anakin on Mustafar. Anakin really wasn't super powerful during ROTS. He could have been really powerful like Nam said, but he didn't fulfill it because Obi-Wan left him in pieces. One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 15:00:57 GMT -5
Obi-Wan would beat Anakin. Obi-Wan's beaten Maul on multiple occasions, Savage, Grievous, and then of course Anakin on Mustafar. Anakin really wasn't super powerful during ROTS. He could have been really powerful like Nam said, but he didn't fulfill it because Obi-Wan left him in pieces. One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. Just because Anakin was driving him back does not mean he won. Obi-Wan cut his limbs off. Anakin was blinded by his overconfidence. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:01:42 GMT -5
One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. Just because Anakin was driving him back does not mean he won. Obi-Wan cut his limbs off. Anakin was blinded by his overconfidence. And that only lost him the duel because Obi Wan was on the high ground |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 15:02:36 GMT -5
One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. Just because Anakin was driving him back does not mean he won. Obi-Wan cut his limbs off. Anakin was blinded by his overconfidence. And that is exactly why I made this duel on a flat ground as a rematch. Because the entire limb and burn thing is from story plot points that had to happen and everyone saw it coming.... |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:04:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Anakin can't lose due to the prophecy he would bring balance to the force. So Anakin wins anyway
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 15:07:28 GMT -5
Just because Anakin was driving him back does not mean he won. Obi-Wan cut his limbs off. Anakin was blinded by his overconfidence. And that is exactly why I made this duel on a flat ground as a rematch. Because the entire limb and burn thing is from story plot points that had to happen and everyone saw it coming.... "Despite his preference for diplomacy, Master Kenobi was one of the greatest swordsmen and Force-users in Jedi history." |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 15:07:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Anakin can't lose due to the prophecy he would bring balance to the force. So Anakin wins anyway LOL |
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Post by Newan on Jan 18, 2014 15:11:16 GMT -5
And that is exactly why I made this duel on a flat ground as a rematch. Because the entire limb and burn thing is from story plot points that had to happen and everyone saw it coming.... "Despite his preference for diplomacy, Master Kenobi was one of the greatest swordsmen and Force-users in Jedi history." Maybe in TCW era but there are many better than him.... |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:17:13 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Anakin can't lose due to the prophecy he would bring balance to the force. So Anakin wins anyway LOL You do know that it has to come true right? Obi Wan defeating Anakin in this scenario ( would never happen) would result in Anakin's death, which would result in the events in the Original Trilogy never happening and Emperor ruling the galaxy |
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Post by Potato on Jan 18, 2014 15:27:02 GMT -5
Obi-Wan would beat Anakin. Obi-Wan's beaten Maul on multiple occasions, Savage, Grievous, and then of course Anakin on Mustafar. Anakin really wasn't super powerful during ROTS. He could have been really powerful like Nam said, but he didn't fulfill it because Obi-Wan left him in pieces. One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. When was one of his times beating Maul a fluke? You mean in TPM? He cut Maul in half. That's a victory. Savage has no technique, yes, but he's still a powerful enemy. And Grievous is clumsy? I agree, but weren't you one of the people during the past duels saying how powerful he was? Anakin wasn't really diving Obi-Wan back. When you watch the duel you can see they're equal the entire time until Obi-Wan cuts Anakin's limbs off. Just because Anakin was driving him back does not mean he won. Obi-Wan cut his limbs off. Anakin was blinded by his overconfidence. And that only lost him the duel because Obi Wan was on the high ground The high ground doesn't really matter. It's Anakin's fault he jumped too soon. If Obi-Wan had "the high ground" he wouldn't have been as eager to jump in so soon. Oh yeah, Anakin can't lose due to the prophecy he would bring balance to the force. So Anakin wins anyway Uh, are you kidding about this? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 18, 2014 15:32:41 GMT -5
One of the times he beat Maul was a fluke. Savage has no technique and Grievous is clumsy and is not force-sensitive. Anakin was driving back Obi Wan on Mustafar. And Anakin is the best practitioner of Shien ever and stronger in the force. When was one of his times beating Maul a fluke? You mean in TPM? He cut Maul in half. That's a victory. Savage has no technique, yes, but he's still a powerful enemy. And Grievous is clumsy? I agree, but weren't you one of the people during the past duels saying how powerful he was? Anakin wasn't really diving Obi-Wan back. When you watch the duel you can see they're equal the entire time until Obi-Wan cuts Anakin's limbs off. And that only lost him the duel because Obi Wan was on the high ground The high ground doesn't really matter. It's Anakin's fault he jumped too soon. If Obi-Wan had "the high ground" he wouldn't have been as eager to jump in so soon. Oh yeah, Anakin can't lose due to the prophecy he would bring balance to the force. So Anakin wins anyway Uh, are you kidding about this? 1. Grievous is powerful but clumsy. And Obi Wan defeated Maul becauseQui Gon's saber was conveniently above him 2. Maybe, but Anakin had the advantage 3. No |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 18, 2014 15:40:50 GMT -5
You do know that it has to come true right? Obi Wan defeating Anakin in this scenario ( would never happen) would result in Anakin's death, which would result in the events in the Original Trilogy never happening and Emperor ruling the galaxy This isn't a canon duel............. we're just seeing who would actually win... none of that prophecy thing matters here..... |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jan 18, 2014 15:41:15 GMT -5
I Say Obi-Wan. Cut Savage's arm off, cut Maul in half, And made Grievous and Anakin Catch on fire.. and cut Anakin's left arm and legs...
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