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Post by Star on Jan 11, 2018 23:00:43 GMT -5
TLJ Kylo Ren and TCW Maul vs Rebels Ahsoka and TCW Plo Koon
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 12, 2018 14:02:54 GMT -5
TLJ Kylo Ren and TCW Maul vs Rebels Ahsoka and TCW Plo Koon It depends on Ren's performance. I think Maul could beat either Koon or Ahsoka, but I'm not sure if Kylo could beat either. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 12, 2018 14:15:06 GMT -5
TLJ Kylo Ren and TCW Maul vs Rebels Ahsoka and TCW Plo Koon Should be an easy win for the Villains IMO, Kylo Ren is a much better combatant than we are led to believe IMO since his biggest fight with Rey was fought when he was significantly injured. And I mean realistically couldn't Kylo just freeze one of them while Maul stabs them... I know that's the most anti climatic battle ever but I don't see why not |
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Post by Star on Jan 12, 2018 21:47:36 GMT -5
TLJ Kylo Ren and TCW Maul vs Rebels Ahsoka and TCW Plo Koon It depends on Ren's performance. I think Maul could beat either Koon or Ahsoka, but I'm not sure if Kylo could beat either. I think that Rebels Ahsoka is pretty equal to Maul, since she managed to hang with Vader for a while in the S2 finale. Koon is probably better than Ren just because he's a Jedi Master, but not as good as Maul. However, both villains can use their strength and rage to their advantage, so it'd certainly be close. TLJ Kylo Ren and TCW Maul vs Rebels Ahsoka and TCW Plo Koon Should be an easy win for the Villains IMO, Kylo Ren is a much better combatant than we are led to believe IMO since his biggest fight with Rey was fought when he was significantly injured. And I mean realistically couldn't Kylo just freeze one of them while Maul stabs them... I know that's the most anti climatic battle ever but I don't see why not I get what you mean, but why didn't Kylo freeze anyone during VIII if he could do that to other people? Ren is definitely more powerful than the films may make him to be, but he's not proven to be at the same level as Maul or the others yet. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 13, 2018 12:59:35 GMT -5
It depends on Ren's performance. I think Maul could beat either Koon or Ahsoka, but I'm not sure if Kylo could beat either. I think that Rebels Ahsoka is pretty equal to Maul, since she managed to hang with Vader for a while in the S2 finale. Koon is probably better than Ren just because he's a Jedi Master, but not as good as Maul. However, both villains can use their strength and rage to their advantage, so it'd certainly be close. Should be an easy win for the Villains IMO, Kylo Ren is a much better combatant than we are led to believe IMO since his biggest fight with Rey was fought when he was significantly injured. And I mean realistically couldn't Kylo just freeze one of them while Maul stabs them... I know that's the most anti climatic battle ever but I don't see why not I get what you mean, but why didn't Kylo freeze anyone during VIII if he could do that to other people? Ren is definitely more powerful than the films may make him to be, but he's not proven to be at the same level as Maul or the others yet. I think it was just plot related, they didn't want Kylo using any force powers, or Rey for that matter in the throne room because they wanted a lightsaber fight, otherwise the movie wouldnt have one |
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Post by Newan on Jan 13, 2018 22:23:01 GMT -5
So now that the new canon is fairly well established, let's try maybe.
Darth Vader vs Mace Windu?
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Post by Newan on Jan 13, 2018 22:29:43 GMT -5
I think it would be fairly close, Vader has killed numerous fairly powerful Jedi in the new canon at this point, recently in one of the comics he killed Jocasta Nu, who isn't that powerful but kinda interesting that she was alive.
It's also confirmed that Vader didn't seem to become weaker with the suit, in fact the suit seems to amplify his pain, emotions, hatred, etc and it's not like he ever stopped learning so in theory he should be more powerful than Anakin, who let's remember was on par with the Ones (Mortis arc) in force potential. The drawbacks of Vader however is that he's fairly immobile and does have some force power restrictions for his own personal safety (force lightning). But Vader has always been both in legends and in new canon a lightsaber combatant primarily who uses the force to augment his strength in that regard.
Windu however is one of the best lightsaber combatants in the Jedi order and his style of Vaapaad, which I'm prettt sure is Canon from the recent Windu comic, helps him feed off the dark side and counter it, like Vader though he isn't really someone who use much force powers in his fighting style though.
Would be a close fight
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Post by Newan on Jan 13, 2018 22:31:34 GMT -5
Though I do believe Vader, at his peak, is probably better than Sidious in just pure lightsaber combat, though Sidious unlike Vader tends to combine force powers a lot with his lightsaber combat.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 14, 2018 14:47:07 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that the new canon is going with Vader actually getting stronger with the suit makes me think that he could prevail against Windu. Anakin's performance in ROTS against Dooku was pretty impressive, and if Vader is stronger than that then I would favour him.
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Post by Newan on Jan 14, 2018 17:14:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that the new canon is going with Vader actually getting stronger with the suit makes me think that he could prevail against Windu. Anakin's performance in ROTS against Dooku was pretty impressive, and if Vader is stronger than that then I would favour him. Yeah I think he could, depends on what time you take Vader from I guess during the 25 years or so after ROTS - his death in ROTJ. Since he certainly struggled in his first fight in the suit |
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Post by Star on Jan 19, 2018 17:52:31 GMT -5
So now that the new canon is fairly well established, let's try maybe. Darth Vader vs Mace Windu? Based off what the new canon suggests, I think the fight should go in Vader's favor. Windu might have a better shot at winning if the setting provided him some kind of advantage, but I'm not sure if even that would be enough. |
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