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Post by Pinda on Oct 30, 2019 16:21:10 GMT -5
So apparently Disney actually fired D&D shortly after the season 8 finale, but they decided to keep it quiet for a few months to not instantly ruin their reputation. Nice.
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 30, 2019 16:23:24 GMT -5
Ok exaggerated a little to say it’s worse than Star Wars. But the thing is I had higher expectations for GOT and it hurt a lot when it turned out so bad. I never expected Disney Star Wars to be good.
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Post by Star on Nov 1, 2019 10:24:29 GMT -5
Ok exaggerated a little to say it’s worse than Star Wars. But the thing is I had higher expectations for GOT and it hurt a lot when it turned out so bad. I never expected Disney Star Wars to be good. That's why S8 is much more painful than TLJ for me. The quality and consistency poured into GOT was much higher than Star Wars, so seeing GOT fall so far disappoints me as a fan so much. The only hopeful thing is that both franchises have large universes with potential for new and fairly unrelated stories to the current ones. Therefore, it's possible we can get fresh starts on new concepts that might turn out well from start to finish. Not a guarantee by any measure, but it's still possible. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 21, 2020 18:46:07 GMT -5
This still hurts
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 21, 2020 19:11:39 GMT -5
Really?  I kind of pushed it out of my memory just like with Star Wars But I guess yeah when I do think about either it's pretty bad... |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 20, 2020 6:12:06 GMT -5
Oh this was a year ago. Still garbage.
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Post by zuma on May 20, 2020 15:24:38 GMT -5
Utter garbage. But honestly I thought they were headed downhill from season 5 onwards. The ending mostly just impressed by just how far down they managed to dig.
D&D were always mediocre writers who lived off some pretty great source material. The more original they had to be the worse it got.
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Post by Pinda on May 20, 2020 16:21:24 GMT -5
Utter garbage. But honestly I thought they were headed downhill from season 5 onwards. The ending mostly just impressed by just how far down they managed to dig. D&D were always mediocre writers who lived off some pretty great source material. The more original they had to be the worse it got. Credit where credit is due: They did a great job adapting the source material during the first four seasons. I know in terms of story that is not too hard, but still, I have seen plenty of butchered adaptations, so they definitely have a talent for that. Their own writing just is utter garbage though. They honestly should not have made a show based on a book series that wouldn't be finished any time soon. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 20, 2020 16:46:52 GMT -5
Utter garbage. But honestly I thought they were headed downhill from season 5 onwards. The ending mostly just impressed by just how far down they managed to dig. D&D were always mediocre writers who lived off some pretty great source material. The more original they had to be the worse it got. Credit where credit is due: They did a great job adapting the source material during the first four seasons. I know in terms of story that is not too hard, but still, I have seen plenty of butchered adaptations, so they definitely have a talent for that. Their own writing just is utter garbage though. They honestly should not have made a show based on a book series that wouldn't be finished any time soon. I’ve seen a lot of people say it’s not their fault because they expected the last two books to be finished by the time they caught up. But come on, it been six years between Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons. What did they think was gonna happen? |
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Post by Kenbo on May 20, 2020 16:58:46 GMT -5
I don’t even remember what happened lol
We probably talked about this but I wish Jon had won the throne in the end. It seemed like everything was pointing to that. But they had to subvert expectations. Tbh I hate this trend. Personally I prefer predictable and happy endings to things. Maybe people find that boring or cliche but I feel those types of ending are the most satisfying.
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Post by Pinda on May 20, 2020 17:23:40 GMT -5
I don’t even remember what happened lol We probably talked about this but I wish Jon had won the throne in the end. It seemed like everything was pointing to that. But they had to subvert expectations. Tbh I hate this trend. Personally I prefer predictable and happy endings to things. Maybe people find that boring or cliche but I feel those types of ending are the most satisfying. I don't want happy, predictable endings. Especially not for a show like GOT. Subverting expectations is fine, as long as the 'subversion' makes sense in hindsight and in terms of how the story proceeds. For example, when they killed Ned/Rob/Catelyn they subverted expectations as well, but it was fine because it all made sense. Dany turning mad or Arya killing the Night King did not make sense, that was the problem. |
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Post by Pinda on May 20, 2020 17:28:10 GMT -5
Credit where credit is due: They did a great job adapting the source material during the first four seasons. I know in terms of story that is not too hard, but still, I have seen plenty of butchered adaptations, so they definitely have a talent for that. Their own writing just is utter garbage though. They honestly should not have made a show based on a book series that wouldn't be finished any time soon. I’ve seen a lot of people say it’s not their fault because they expected the last two books to be finished by the time they caught up. But come on, it been six years between Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons. What did they think was gonna happen? Well, George promised them to finish the books before they got to the final season. That might have been when they first pitched the show to HBO (that must have been like 2009 or earlier). So back then that might have seemed realistic. Imagine George manages to finish the last two books in 5 years each, and they actually did more seasons like HBO wanted. Then you would have Winds of Winter in like 2016, D&D would probably get an early version to use for their show (which could have dragged out Feast and Dance a bit longer). Then the last book comes out just before the final season, with D&D being able to adapt their show based on early drafts. Seems reasonable. Also, I think they never expected the show to be successful enough to get this many seasons, so perhaps they were not too worried about it. |
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Post by zuma on May 21, 2020 14:32:30 GMT -5
I don’t even remember what happened lol We probably talked about this but I wish Jon had won the throne in the end. It seemed like everything was pointing to that. But they had to subvert expectations. Tbh I hate this trend. Personally I prefer predictable and happy endings to things. Maybe people find that boring or cliche but I feel those types of ending are the most satisfying. I don't want happy, predictable endings. Especially not for a show like GOT. Subverting expectations is fine, as long as the 'subversion' makes sense in hindsight and in terms of how the story proceeds. For example, when they killed Ned/Rob/Catelyn they subverted expectations as well, but it was fine because it all made sense. Dany turning mad or Arya killing the Night King did not make sense, that was the problem. Agree, it just has to make sense. The issue is when shows start to shock for the sake of shocking. Then it just becomes stupid and nonsensical. |
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Post by zuma on May 21, 2020 15:03:56 GMT -5
One thing I hated was how arrogant it seems some of the crew behind the show got towards the end.
I remember back in season 7 when people complained about the sudden fast travelling of a bunch of characters one of the directors said it didn't matter too much because they had plenty of fans. Sounded like storytelling was less important because people would watch either way.
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I kind of pushed it out of my memory just like with Star Wars 
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