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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 20, 2016 18:03:02 GMT -5
Although, I think Maul vs. Grievous and Savage as its own round could be an interesting fight. I think Grievous and Savage might win, but it'd be really close. What do you guys think? I think that's the closest fight here. While Maul is more skilled than either of them (especially so vs Savage) he would be quite tired by this point despite the recovery time. Maul could win but I think to do it he'd have to exploit the location. This location is dark so it suits his training as an assassin. There are also narrow pathways and bridges on which Grievous and Savage will have difficulty exploiting their numbers advantage on.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 24, 2016 17:12:48 GMT -5
Darth Sidious faces 5 rounds of enemies:
1. 30 Ezra Bridgers & Kylo Ren 2. Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee, Ahsoka Tano & Asajj Ventress 3. Qui-Gon Jinn, Savage Opress, Darth Maul & ROTS Anakin 4. Satele Shan, Mace Windu , Plo Koon & Shaak Tii 5. Darth Malgus, Darth Vader, Count Dooku & ROTS Obi-Wan
- Sidious only gets 1 minute to recover after each round.
- Sidious is wielding two lightsabers and has a spare one up his sleeve.
Location: Jedi Temple Entrance, Coruscant. (Sidious on top of stairs. Opponents facing him opposite).
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Post by Newan on Feb 24, 2016 17:52:04 GMT -5
Darth Sidious faces 5 rounds of enemies:
1. 30 Ezra Bridgers & Kylo Ren 2. Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee, Ahsoka Tano & Asajj Ventress 3. Qui-Gon Jinn, Savage Opress, Darth Maul & ROTS Anakin 4. Satele Shan, Mace Windu , Plo Koon & Shaak Tii 5. Darth Malgus, Darth Vader, Count Dooku & ROTS Obi-Wan
- Sidious only gets 1 minute to recover after each round.
- Sidious is wielding two lightsabers and has a spare one up his sleeve.
Location: Jedi Temple Entrance, Coruscant. (Sidious on top of stairs. Opponents facing him opposite). I think he loses on round 3 tbh... But is it dark side ROTS Anakin? I remember reading the dark lord series and Sidious expected Anakin to make some kind of power play if he defeated Obi-Wan, Sidious wasn't actually sure if Anakin would win though. Combined with the other 3 I think it's enough to beat him. And cmon realistically Sidious would not cut down 3 Jedi masters within like 6 strokes... They had to do it to cut down on screen time though but there would have been more of a fight. If Maul and Savage can last as long as they did then I have no doubt about that. Facing multiple enemies at once every round is a lot harder then my Obi-Wan challenge where he only faces one each round. Also is it just 30 Ezra's and 1 Kylo? Because if it's 30 Kylos then Sidious loses round 1....
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Post by Newan on Feb 24, 2016 17:53:29 GMT -5
But even if he wins round 3 he loses round 4 and round 5 is a loss even if he was at full strength, I have no doubt about that
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Post by Newan on Feb 24, 2016 18:03:43 GMT -5
My take:
Round 1: Sidious destroys Ezra, however if it's 30 Kylos and not just 1 (I think you meant 1 though). 30 Kylos would overwhelm Sidious since Kylo has advanced force abilities. All of them together could freeze Sidious in place.
Round 2: this is easy, none of them pose much of a threat, may tire him a bit but not much.
Round 3. One of the best lightsaber duelists, "the chosen one", a Sith Lord and the Brute. Yeah I think he Sidious is done here. Anakin, Qui-Gon and Maul together are formidable then you got Savage tossing him around. Even he wouldn't be an easy kill by any means as the other 3 can defend him.
Round 4: if he somehow survives round 3 he will be severely depleted. Satele and Mace alone are easily enough at this point. Maybe just Mace to finish him off.
Round 5: I'm going to consider this its own round since Sidious has no chance of lasting this long. Fully rested Sidious vs Malgus, Dooku, Vader and ROTS Obi-Wan. Sidious loses for sure. Malgus and Dooku are very balanced fighters, Vader is strong in lightsaber combat as is Obi-Wan. Sidious Lightning is strong against Vader however it's not like he can't defend it or anything, he knows how to. In this scenario Obi-Wan has to be the main guy keeping Sid focused on him with his defensive soresu while Malgus, Dooku and Vader takes shots at him. He stands no chance
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Post by Potato on Feb 24, 2016 18:28:18 GMT -5
1. LOL, this is a funny round. I know Sidious would wipe the floor with dozens of Ezras, but don't think this would be an easy win. 30 of any force sensitive user is a lot. Sidious would have some trouble blocking all the blades (especially if Ezra fires his blaster shots at Sidious too).
2. Sidious wins.
3. Tough... Sidious might just barely pull through.
4. He loses here.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 24, 2016 18:36:19 GMT -5
Darth Sidious faces 5 rounds of enemies:
1. 30 Ezra Bridgers & Kylo Ren 2. Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee, Ahsoka Tano & Asajj Ventress 3. Qui-Gon Jinn, Savage Opress, Darth Maul & ROTS Anakin 4. Satele Shan, Mace Windu , Plo Koon & Shaak Tii 5. Darth Malgus, Darth Vader, Count Dooku & ROTS Obi-Wan
- Sidious only gets 1 minute to recover after each round.
- Sidious is wielding two lightsabers and has a spare one up his sleeve.
Location: Jedi Temple Entrance, Coruscant. (Sidious on top of stairs. Opponents facing him opposite). 1. Easy win for Sidious, even a thousand Ezras would be no problem 2. Easy win again. None of them are a challenge. 3. Savage is easy. Qui-gon is not that hard. Maul shouldn't be too hard either since Sidious eaisly defeated him in Lawless. The only one that is kind of a challenge is Anakin, but if Sidious takes out the other three quickly he can easily deal with Anakin. 4. Shan is Old Republic era, and Old Republic characters are often overpowered in my opinion. But 1v1 Sidious could defeat her... Shaak-ti and Plo Koon would be easy too... and Windu... well not much harder, combined with Shan it might be too much for Sidious. 5. No way Sidious can win this. He could take them all down 1v1, but 1v4 he won't even get close.
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Post by Newan on Feb 24, 2016 18:45:22 GMT -5
Darth Sidious faces 5 rounds of enemies:
1. 30 Ezra Bridgers & Kylo Ren 2. Luminara Unduli, Barriss Offee, Ahsoka Tano & Asajj Ventress 3. Qui-Gon Jinn, Savage Opress, Darth Maul & ROTS Anakin 4. Satele Shan, Mace Windu , Plo Koon & Shaak Tii 5. Darth Malgus, Darth Vader, Count Dooku & ROTS Obi-Wan
- Sidious only gets 1 minute to recover after each round.
- Sidious is wielding two lightsabers and has a spare one up his sleeve.
Location: Jedi Temple Entrance, Coruscant. (Sidious on top of stairs. Opponents facing him opposite). 1. Easy win for Sidious, even a thousand Ezras would be no problem 2. Easy win again. None of them are a challenge. 3. Savage is easy. Qui-gon is not that hard. Maul shouldn't be too hard either since Sidious eaisly defeated him in Lawless. The only one that is kind of a challenge is Anakin, but if Sidious takes out the other three quickly he can easily deal with Anakin. 4. Shan is Old Republic era, and Old Republic characters are often overpowered in my opinion. But 1v1 Sidious could defeat her... Shaak-ti and Plo Koon would be easy too... and Windu... well not much harder, combined with Shan it might be too much for Sidious. 5. No way Sidious can win this. He could take them all down 1v1, but 1v4 he won't even get close. Sidious isn't that good there's no chance he wins round 4 after round 3. And savage isn't that easy when he has the other 3 defending him. Sidious isn't going to get Savage alone or anything
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 4, 2016 16:14:54 GMT -5
Dark Side Duel:
Team 1: Savage Opress and Seventh Sister
Team 2: Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother
Team 3: Maul (TPM)
Location: Malachor (In honor of Rebels finale)
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Post by Pinda on Mar 4, 2016 16:17:02 GMT -5
Dark Side Duel: Team 1: Savage Opress and Seventh Sister Team 2: Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother Team 3: Maul (TPM) Location: Malachor (In honor of Rebels finale) Team 3. Maul could 1v4 them.
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Post by Newan on Mar 4, 2016 16:20:32 GMT -5
Dark Side Duel: Team 1: Savage Opress and Seventh Sister Team 2: Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother Team 3: Maul (TPM) Location: Malachor (In honor of Rebels finale) Team 2 is weak just because of the Fifth Brother. Team 1 isn't terrible. All 4 of them vs Maul and Maul would probably lose but since Maul is by himself he would probably just let the other two teams go at it first. Maul wins
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 4, 2016 16:35:33 GMT -5
I put Maul by himself since he was the most powerful out of all of them.
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Post by bobafett590 on Mar 5, 2016 19:45:40 GMT -5
Maul most likely but Team 1 has a shot.
The reason why I think this is because Savage's raw power already exceeds the others and Malachor will boost this significantly. Now granted Malachor will boost power for the others as well but only Maul has any real force affinity to speak of to start with. Savage will be a more formidable (and less clumsy) foe here.
Now Maul will probably still win but victory for Team 1 is not impossible. If Savage gets angry and unleashes his full (now boosted by Malachor) potential on Maul I could see him winning. Otherwise Team 1 puts up a decent fight, then loses.
Team 2 just gets blitzkrieg-ed
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 9:19:48 GMT -5
All right since not everyone watched rebels I'm going to do another one.
Team 1: Jedi. Yoda, Obi-Wan (ROTS), and Anakin (AOTC with 2 light sabers )
Team 2: Sith. Sidious (ROTS) and Maul (TPM)
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 9:37:38 GMT -5
Location will be Jedi temple hallways
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Post by Pinda on Mar 6, 2016 9:44:35 GMT -5
AOTC Anakin isn't that useful, so this is really a fight between Yoda/Obi and Sidious/Maul. If Maul could keep Obi-wan (and Anakin) occupied Sidious could first deal with Yoda and then take down Obi-wan. Maul could easily deal with Anakin.
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Post by bobafett590 on Mar 6, 2016 11:19:24 GMT -5
Team 1.
Either Obi-Wan or AOTC Anakin could hold off TPM Maul on their own (if Anakin can hold off Dooku, why not Maul?) Together they should be enough to defeat him but not without effort.
Meanwhile Sidious and Yoda would be fighting a prolonged battle. However I'd give Yoda the slight edge in lightsaber combat on neutral ground. He outduelled and disarmed Sidious in ROTS so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it in the Temple which is pretty neutral . In force they're more evenly matched and neither is beating the other quickly.
After Obi-Wan and Anakin have dispatched Maul they'll join Yoda to fight Sidious. They'll probably only serve as a distraction but that's all Yoda needs to tip the balance.
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Post by Newan on Mar 6, 2016 12:15:25 GMT -5
Team 1 easy.... TPM Maul is no match for ROTS Obi-Wan and Anakin is just backup but isn't needed.
I agree with Boba on neutral ground Yoda likely wins, Sidious doesn't have crap to throw at him now. It would be pretty even though. But once Obi-Wan and Anakin have dealt with Maul they could help Yoda. And Yoda plus Kenobi at the time of ROTS is an easy win against Sidious.
You know in ROTS the Jedi should have went to kill Sidious first then Anakin together
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Post by Pinda on Mar 6, 2016 12:20:11 GMT -5
Team 1. Either Obi-Wan or AOTC Anakin could hold off TPM Maul on their own (if Anakin can hold off Dooku, why not Maul?) Together they should be enough to defeat him but not without effort. Meanwhile Sidious and Yoda would be fighting a prolonged battle. However I'd give Yoda the slight edge in lightsaber combat on neutral ground. He outduelled and disarmed Sidious in ROTS so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it in the Temple which is pretty neutral . In force they're more evenly matched and neither is beating the other quickly. After Obi-Wan and Anakin have dispatched Maul they'll join Yoda to fight Sidious. They'll probably only serve as a distraction but that's all Yoda needs to tip the balance. It's AOTC Anakin though. He couldn't hold off Dooku.
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Post by Newan on Mar 6, 2016 12:21:26 GMT -5
Team 1. Either Obi-Wan or AOTC Anakin could hold off TPM Maul on their own (if Anakin can hold off Dooku, why not Maul?) Together they should be enough to defeat him but not without effort. Meanwhile Sidious and Yoda would be fighting a prolonged battle. However I'd give Yoda the slight edge in lightsaber combat on neutral ground. He outduelled and disarmed Sidious in ROTS so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it in the Temple which is pretty neutral . In force they're more evenly matched and neither is beating the other quickly. After Obi-Wan and Anakin have dispatched Maul they'll join Yoda to fight Sidious. They'll probably only serve as a distraction but that's all Yoda needs to tip the balance. It's AOTC Anakin though. He couldn't hold off Dooku. He's useless and not needed. Obi-Wan defeats TPM Maul either way with little effort.
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Post by Potato on Mar 6, 2016 12:30:34 GMT -5
Team 1 might just edge it out. Now, if it was TCW Maul, then I'd probably go with Team 2.
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Post by bobafett590 on Mar 6, 2016 13:29:34 GMT -5
Team 1. Either Obi-Wan or AOTC Anakin could hold off TPM Maul on their own (if Anakin can hold off Dooku, why not Maul?) Together they should be enough to defeat him but not without effort. Meanwhile Sidious and Yoda would be fighting a prolonged battle. However I'd give Yoda the slight edge in lightsaber combat on neutral ground. He outduelled and disarmed Sidious in ROTS so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it in the Temple which is pretty neutral . In force they're more evenly matched and neither is beating the other quickly. After Obi-Wan and Anakin have dispatched Maul they'll join Yoda to fight Sidious. They'll probably only serve as a distraction but that's all Yoda needs to tip the balance. It's AOTC Anakin though. He couldn't hold off Dooku. Yes he could and did. He held off Dooku for almost a minute and a good portion of the time he was using two lightsabers, a form I doubt he had any real training in. Also note that while fighting Obi-Wan, Dooku was throwing insults and taunts, whereas in his fight with Anakin he is clearly taking him seriously. Also take note of what the GL-Approved AOTC novel says : Anakin definitely couldn't beat him but definitely could hold his ground. Maul will be no different and with the aid of Kenobi they will overcome him for sure.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 18:18:25 GMT -5
If you Guys don't mind can I start my next one. I'm trying to do better at making them equal. I think this next 3 on 3 would be the most equal. Last one for a while, I promise. I really hope we getting more mixed opinions here. Anyways:
Team 1: Anakin (AOTC), Obi-Wan (TCW) and Ahsoka (TCW)
Vs
Team 2: Maul (TCW, red lightsaber and darksaber), Ventress and Savage
Can't comment on my own battle right now, hopefully later I can
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 18:22:46 GMT -5
If you Guys don't mind can I start my next one. I'm trying to do better at making them equal. I think this next 3 on 3 would be the most equal. Last one for a while, I promise. I really hope we getting more mixed opinions here. Anyways: Team 1: Anakin (AOTC), Obi-Wan (TCW) and Ahsoka (TCW) Vs Team 2: Maul (TCW, red lightsaber and darksaber), Ventress and Savage Can't comment on my own battle right now, hopefully later I can Last post: it's in the. Citadel room on Kamino
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Post by Potato on Mar 6, 2016 18:52:15 GMT -5
If you Guys don't mind can I start my next one. I'm trying to do better at making them equal. I think this next 3 on 3 would be the most equal. Last one for a while, I promise. I really hope we getting more mixed opinions here. Anyways: Team 1: Anakin (AOTC), Obi-Wan (TCW) and Ahsoka (TCW) Vs Team 2: Maul (TCW, red lightsaber and darksaber), Ventress and Savage Can't comment on my own battle right now, hopefully later I can Ahsoka from the first half of TCW or the second?
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 20:13:47 GMT -5
If you Guys don't mind can I start my next one. I'm trying to do better at making them equal. I think this next 3 on 3 would be the most equal. Last one for a while, I promise. I really hope we getting more mixed opinions here. Anyways: Team 1: Anakin (AOTC), Obi-Wan (TCW) and Ahsoka (TCW) Vs Team 2: Maul (TCW, red lightsaber and darksaber), Ventress and Savage Can't comment on my own battle right now, hopefully later I can Ahsoka from the first half of TCW or the second? Second
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Post by Potato on Mar 6, 2016 20:27:22 GMT -5
Hmm... I'm leaning towards Team 2. Maul's the equivalent to a master, and Ventress is the equivalent to a knight (Savage is probably about early knight level). Anakin and Ahsoka are padawans in this case and Obi-Wan's a master. The Citadel Room on Kamino was the one with the moving blocks, right? I could see Ventress jumping around those a lot and distracting the jedi.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 20:29:16 GMT -5
Anways I team two. Anakin can defeat Savage or Ventress but Ahsoka can only defeat Savage. She can hold Ventress off though. And Obi-Wan and Maul would be in a stalemate.
My opinion: Obi-Wan=Maul Obi-Wan > Savage ObiWan > Ventress
AOTC Anakin < Maul Anakin >/ = Ventress Anakin > Savage
Ahsoka < Maul Ahsoka < Ventress Ahsoka >/= Savage
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Post by Newan on Mar 6, 2016 20:33:15 GMT -5
Anways I team two. Anakin can defeat Savage or Ventress but Ahsoka can only defeat Savage. She can hold Ventress off though. And Obi-Wan and Maul would be in a stalemate. My opinion: Obi-Wan=Maul Obi-Wan > Savage ObiWan > Ventress AOTC Anakin < Maul Anakin >/ = Ventress Anakin > Savage Ahsoka < Maul Ahsoka < Ventress Ahsoka >/= Savage I doubt Ahsoka would ever beat Savage, he's way too strong for her. She would get tossed
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Mar 6, 2016 20:36:32 GMT -5
Anways I team two. Anakin can defeat Savage or Ventress but Ahsoka can only defeat Savage. She can hold Ventress off though. And Obi-Wan and Maul would be in a stalemate. My opinion: Obi-Wan=Maul Obi-Wan > Savage ObiWan > Ventress AOTC Anakin < Maul Anakin >/ = Ventress Anakin > Savage Ahsoka < Maul Ahsoka < Ventress Ahsoka >/= Savage I doubt Ahsoka would ever beat Savage, he's way too strong for her. She would get tossed yeah I'm not really sure I remember we had an hsoka vs savage fight here once. That's also why I put the equal sign
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