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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:09:08 GMT -5
I don't think it's that unfair actually what characters know if pretty fair game... We don't know if Maul knew about these abilities. The makers of TCW decided not to include them in the show. He couldn't know because they where lost over time. Many of TOR and KOTOR stuff was lost. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:09:14 GMT -5
I'm trying to imply that TCW + the movies don't have these kind of abilities (probably because Filoni and Lucas find them to be overpowered or have no knowledge on them at all) so it's unfair to judge Maul on his lack of those abilities. EU writers don't decide what's canon. The EU is overpowered in general though. It seems the more a character is connected to the EU the more overpowered he is. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:10:44 GMT -5
No because the EU writers could have put that in their stories regarding Maul, but they didn't because they obviously didn't think Maul had that kind of power EU writers don't decide what's canon. The EU is overpowered in general though. It seems the more a character is connected to the EU the more overpowered he is. Actually the EU is basically what makes Star Wars what it is, it makes up more than 90% of Star Wars canon and expands what we can't see in the movies |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:11:14 GMT -5
We don't know if Maul knew about these abilities. The makers of TCW decided not to include them in the show. He couldn't know because they where lost over time. Many of TOR and KOTOR stuff was lost. That's just an excuse to explain why they aren't used in the movies or TCW. The real reasonis just because Lucas (and Filoni) didn't want them to be included or had no knowledge of them. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:12:22 GMT -5
He couldn't know because they where lost over time. Many of TOR and KOTOR stuff was lost. The real reasonis just because Lucas (and Filoni) didn't want them to be included or had no knowledge of them. And it is a rational excuse |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:13:33 GMT -5
EU writers don't decide what's canon. The EU is overpowered in general though. It seems the more a character is connected to the EU the more overpowered he is. Actually the EU is basically what makes Star Wars what it is, it makes up more than 90% of Star Wars canon and expands what we can't see in the movies But it's secondary canon. Like an alternate universe. And most of it is garbage. Some of it can still be enjoyable, but it's still an alternate (usually overpowered and exaggerated) universe made by people who are Star Wars fans themselves and want to make their favorite characters (or new characters they made up) look awesome and really powerful. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:13:45 GMT -5
He couldn't know because they where lost over time. Many of TOR and KOTOR stuff was lost. That's just an excuse to explain why they aren't used in the movies or TCW. The real reasonis just because Lucas (and Filoni) didn't want them to be included or had no knowledge of them. And still proves Maul would have had no knowledge of it. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:14:33 GMT -5
Even Starkiller does not have access too TOR abilities.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:14:53 GMT -5
That's just an excuse to explain why they aren't used in the movies or TCW. The real reasonis just because Lucas (and Filoni) didn't want them to be included or had no knowledge of them. And still proves Maul would have had no knowledge of it. He just doesn't use it. He might actually know about it if it was true canon. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:15:34 GMT -5
Even Starkiller does not have access too TOR abilities. Starkiller has his own set of overpowered abilities. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:16:21 GMT -5
Actually the EU is basically what makes Star Wars what it is, it makes up more than 90% of Star Wars canon and expands what we can't see in the movies But it's secondary canon. Like an alternate universe. And most of it is garbage. Some of it can still be enjoyable, but it's still an alternate (usually overpowered and exaggerated) universe made by people who are Star Wars fans themselves and want to make their favorite characters (or new characters they made up) look awesome and really powerful. KOTOR and TOR were EU... The stories in them are probably one of the best Star Wars stories ever told and it's all canon, including powers (because we see them in cutscenes and in other EU books as well). And the EU characters being overpowered (which Malak isn't) , isn't overpowered at all, it just expands characters and shows you their full potential |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:16:54 GMT -5
Even Starkiller does not have access too TOR abilities. Starkiller has his own set of overpowered abilities. Actually, the powers Starkiller uses are pretty basic. just amplified versions of Force Wave |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:17:13 GMT -5
Even Starkiller does not have access too TOR abilities. Starkiller has his own set of overpowered abilities. All of the abilities Starkillers uses are pretty reasonable and most are established ones except the repulse which incinerates enemy's but the idea isn't OP because it's similar too Force wave. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 28, 2014 15:17:22 GMT -5
I'm idk much about Malak but I think he might win because Maul isn't that great...
But then again he got his jaw cut off..... (Dafuq..)
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:17:32 GMT -5
Starkiller has his own set of overpowered abilities. Actually, the powers Starkiller uses are pretty basic. just amplified versions of Force Wave In TFU he's obviously overpowered. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:18:59 GMT -5
Actually, the powers Starkiller uses are pretty basic. just amplified versions of Force Wave In TFU he's obviously overpowered. Of course but his powers are just amplified versions of other powers |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 28, 2014 15:19:06 GMT -5
But it's secondary canon. Like an alternate universe. And most of it is garbage. Some of it can still be enjoyable, but it's still an alternate (usually overpowered and exaggerated) universe made by people who are Star Wars fans themselves and want to make their favorite characters (or new characters they made up) look awesome and really powerful. KOTOR and TOR were EU... The stories in them are probably one of the best Star Wars stories ever told and it's all canon, including powers (because we see them in cutscenes and in other EU books as well). And the EU characters being overpowered (which Malak isn't) , isn't overpowered at all, it just expands characters and shows you their full potential It might have a good story but that doesn't make it canon. I mean, an immortal Sith Emperor who has the power to wipe out all life in the galaxy... sounds kinda overpowered to me. I will not consider that canon. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:19:36 GMT -5
I really advise too look at this www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=549272 this guy here has a index thread and he does VERY good in depth analysis of characters, lightsaber forms and force powers, etc... I read a lot of them and learned quite a bit I didn't know. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 28, 2014 15:19:47 GMT -5
I'm idk much about Malak but I think he might win because Maul isn't that great... But then again he got his jaw cut off..... (Dafuq..) That's what he got for irritating a powerful and skilled Sith Lord |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 15:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 28, 2014 15:25:05 GMT -5
I'm idk much about Malak but I think he might win because Maul isn't that great... But then again he got his jaw cut off..... (Dafuq..) That's what he got for irritating a powerful and skilled Sith Lord Lolz |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 19:02:42 GMT -5
I'm idk much about Malak but I think he might win because Maul isn't that great... But then again he got his jaw cut off..... (Dafuq..) Maul got his legs cut off .... LOLZ |
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Post by Potato on Jan 28, 2014 19:04:59 GMT -5
I don't really know much about Malak but I'd still say he'd probably beat Maul.
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 28, 2014 19:05:17 GMT -5
I'm idk much about Malak but I think he might win because Maul isn't that great... But then again he got his jaw cut off..... (Dafuq..) Maul got his legs cut off .... LOLZ But who gets their jaw cut off like what.. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 19:06:36 GMT -5
Maul got his legs cut off .... LOLZ But who gets their jaw cut off like what.. But who gets their legs cut off ? Besides Vader because that was obvious and people saw it coming from the OT. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 28, 2014 19:08:38 GMT -5
But who gets their jaw cut off like what.. But who gets their legs cut off ? Besides Vader because that was obvious and people saw it coming from the OT. But it's a jaw... Of all the places.. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 28, 2014 19:16:52 GMT -5
But who gets their legs cut off ? Besides Vader because that was obvious and people saw it coming from the OT. But it's a jaw... Of all the places.. Who gets their ears cut off? |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 28, 2014 19:18:03 GMT -5
But it's a jaw... Of all the places.. Who gets their ears cut off? Vincent Van Gogh..... |
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Post by Malgus on Jan 28, 2014 19:25:18 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Malak to take part in this one properly....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 19:26:47 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Malak to take part in this one properly.... I don't know that much about him either, but I know he is better than Maul... |
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