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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 12:28:30 GMT -5
I think they'd die in this order: Savage, Grievous, Starkiller (I don't consider his TFU powers canon), Ventress, Maul, Dooku, Vader. And Sidious would win, obviously. I think Ventress would die fast cause she would fight someone way too powerful. Grievous on the other hand can hold out in lightsaber combat. And what TFU powers I don't consider the star destroyer canon but his fight with the Emperor I would consider canon. Have you even seen Massacre? Ventress would totally own Grievous. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 12:31:29 GMT -5
Grievous: First dead. No questions. He sucks.
Savage: Too clumsy, someone like Vader (who's physically strong enough to hold him off) would kill him.
Now, for Ventress, Starkiller, Maul, Vader, and Sidious....
I, like Pinda, do not believe Starkiller is fully canon. What he did, yes, perhaps, but some of his powers were just things to make the game fun. Not fully canon.
Vader: He would die next along with Ventress. Luke beat him, so I'm pretty sure someone like Maul or Ventress could.
Ventress: Maul might kill her.
That leaves Maul and Sidious, which I'm not even going to discuss.
EDIT: Forgot Dooku. He kills Vader. Maul kills Ventress. Then Dooku kills Maul. Then Sidious owns.
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 12:35:42 GMT -5
I think Ventress would die fast cause she would fight someone way too powerful. Grievous on the other hand can hold out in lightsaber combat. And what TFU powers I don't consider the star destroyer canon but his fight with the Emperor I would consider canon. Have you even seen Massacre? Ventress would totally own Grievous. He managed to hold his own against Obi Wan many times and Obi is one of the greatest swordsman in the order. Ventress only best him cause the story demanded it for that to happen it built his character that he wouldn't fight fair and use his droids for defence. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 12:37:10 GMT -5
Grievous: First dead. No questions. He sucks. Savage: Too clumsy, someone like Vader (who's physically strong enough to hold him off) would kill him. Now, for Ventress, Starkiller, Maul, Vader, and Sidious.... I, like Pinda, do not believe Starkiller is fully canon. What he did, yes, perhaps, but some of his powers were just things to make the game fun. Not fully canon. Vader: He would die next along with Ventress. Luke beat him, so I'm pretty sure someone like Maul or Ventress could. Ventress: Maul might kill her. That leaves Maul and Sidious, which I'm not even going to discuss. EDIT: Forgot Dooku. He kills Vader. Maul kills Ventress. Then Dooku kills Maul. Then Sidious owns. Luke wouldn't have beat Vader is he had no injuries or suit... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 12:41:33 GMT -5
Grievous: First dead. No questions. He sucks. Savage: Too clumsy, someone like Vader (who's physically strong enough to hold him off) would kill him. Now, for Ventress, Starkiller, Maul, Vader, and Sidious.... I, like Pinda, do not believe Starkiller is fully canon. What he did, yes, perhaps, but some of his powers were just things to make the game fun. Not fully canon. Vader: He would die next along with Ventress. Luke beat him, so I'm pretty sure someone like Maul or Ventress could. Ventress: Maul might kill her. That leaves Maul and Sidious, which I'm not even going to discuss. EDIT: Forgot Dooku. He kills Vader. Maul kills Ventress. Then Dooku kills Maul. Then Sidious owns. I can agree on everything accept for Dooku could beat Vader. Although he is injured he still is very powerful. He managed to crush that room in episode 3 after finding Padmae was dead. Without hands either. Question for you guys. When Dooku had said to Yoda in AOTC "I've become more powerful than any Jedi, even you". Do you think that was true that he was more powerful than Yoda? |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 12:45:33 GMT -5
Grievous: First dead. No questions. He sucks. Savage: Too clumsy, someone like Vader (who's physically strong enough to hold him off) would kill him. Now, for Ventress, Starkiller, Maul, Vader, and Sidious.... I, like Pinda, do not believe Starkiller is fully canon. What he did, yes, perhaps, but some of his powers were just things to make the game fun. Not fully canon. Vader: He would die next along with Ventress. Luke beat him, so I'm pretty sure someone like Maul or Ventress could. Ventress: Maul might kill her. That leaves Maul and Sidious, which I'm not even going to discuss. EDIT: Forgot Dooku. He kills Vader. Maul kills Ventress. Then Dooku kills Maul. Then Sidious owns. I can agree on everything accept for Dooku could beat Vader. Although he is injured he still is very powerful. He managed to crush that room in episode 3 after finding Padmae was dead. Without hands either. Question for you guys. When Dooku had said to Yoda in AOTC "I've become more powerful than any Jedi, even you". Do you think that was true that he was more powerful than Yoda? No that was just him running his mouth I don't think he is more powerful than every Jedi considering Anakin beat him quite easy in Episode 3. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 14, 2013 12:53:32 GMT -5
I think Savage could beat Grievous. I mean Savage was able to hold his own against both Obi and Ani. And also against both Dooku and Ventress. And Grievous always has his ass kicked.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 12:54:52 GMT -5
I can agree on everything accept for Dooku could beat Vader. Although he is injured he still is very powerful. He managed to crush that room in episode 3 after finding Padmae was dead. Without hands either. Question for you guys. When Dooku had said to Yoda in AOTC "I've become more powerful than any Jedi, even you". Do you think that was true that he was more powerful than Yoda? No that was just him running his mouth I don't think he is more powerful than every Jedi considering Anakin beat him quite easy in Episode 3. Yeah that was my thought as well but I wanted to make sure. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 12:57:26 GMT -5
I think Savage could beat Grievous. I mean Savage was able to hold his own against both Obi and Ani. And also against both Dooku and Ventress. And Grievous always has his ass kicked. But Grievous also would have equal Strength to Savage considering he's a cyborg. Maybe he could beat him if he had 2 sabers but I think Savage would get overwhelmed by 4 he isn't that good. |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 14, 2013 12:58:21 GMT -5
I think Savage could beat Grievous. I mean Savage was able to hold his own against both Obi and Ani. And also against both Dooku and Ventress. And Grievous always has his ass kicked. Savage was slightly overpowered and Grievous kinda underpowered in TCW. But Savage only had a little bit of training and he just mindlessly waves his saber at enemies, Grievous could easily dodge him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2013 13:01:24 GMT -5
I think Savage could beat Grievous. I mean Savage was able to hold his own against both Obi and Ani. And also against both Dooku and Ventress. And Grievous always has his ass kicked. But Grievous also would have equal Strength to Savage considering he's a cyborg. Maybe he could beat him if he had 2 sabers but I think Savage would get overwhelmed by 4 he isn't that good. Yeah I actually think Grevious would win against Savage actually. I think he would get overwhelmed as you said. It was funny to see how easily Sidious whipped right through Savage with ease. Anyways savage has strength but Grevious does have good combat too. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 14, 2013 13:02:50 GMT -5
I think Savage could beat Grievous. I mean Savage was able to hold his own against both Obi and Ani. And also against both Dooku and Ventress. And Grievous always has his ass kicked. Savage was slightly overpowered and Grievous kinda underpowered in TCW. But Savage only had a little bit of training and he just mindlessly waves his saber at enemies, Grievous could easily dodge him. True, but Savage almost killed Ventress in "Revenge" |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 14, 2013 13:04:09 GMT -5
Savage was slightly overpowered and Grievous kinda underpowered in TCW. But Savage only had a little bit of training and he just mindlessly waves his saber at enemies, Grievous could easily dodge him. True, but Savage almost killed Ventress in "Revenge" Ventress didn't have both of her lightsabers, she's used to having two... I'm sure that did effect her combat abilities. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 13:19:36 GMT -5
True, but Savage almost killed Ventress in "Revenge" Ventress didn't have both of her lightsabers, she's used to having two... I'm sure that did effect her combat abilities. Ventress from what we have seen also has very limited abilities of the Force I think we only seen her use force a handful of times. |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 14, 2013 13:21:43 GMT -5
lol no guys Vader can't even run he'd die third or something
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Post by Pinda on Oct 14, 2013 13:23:09 GMT -5
lol no guys Vader can't even run he'd die third or something We're talking about Vader before his "accident" |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 14, 2013 13:30:17 GMT -5
lol no guys Vader can't even run he'd die third or something We're talking about Vader before his "accident" ...  |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:31:42 GMT -5
Ventress didn't have both of her lightsabers, she's used to having two... I'm sure that did effect her combat abilities. Ventress from what we have seen also has very limited abilities of the Force I think we only seen her use force a handful of times. Um... limited. Yeah, when she's had training from both sides of the Force AND moved Dooku's sabers... No one does that. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:32:47 GMT -5
Have you even seen Massacre? Ventress would totally own Grievous. He managed to hold his own against Obi Wan many times and Obi is one of the greatest swordsman in the order. Ventress only best him cause the story demanded it for that to happen it built his character that he wouldn't fight fair and use his droids for defence. Ventress has the Force. Grievous does not. That's already a win. Seriously, if this was an actual duel with all abilities in play she could just crush him. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:34:15 GMT -5
Oh, if it's Vader without the suit... Hmmm... Sidious would still own.
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 13:35:54 GMT -5
Ventress from what we have seen also has very limited abilities of the Force I think we only seen her use force a handful of times. Um... limited. Yeah, when she's had training from both sides of the Force AND moved Dooku's sabers... No one does that. That does not seems too difficult to do . You said Vader would die before her even though Vader kills all the Jedi and would probably be pretty equal to Palpatine if he wasn't stupid on mustafar and jumped at Obi Wan like a retard. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Oct 14, 2013 13:36:55 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Sidious would win.
Savage would definitely die first, he is an amateur compared to all these other sith and the most inferior one there.
Ventress is powerful, but the other remaining sith outmatch her. *
Grievous is skilled with a lightsaber, but the other sith are very skilled with the force.
Maul would die next. He couldn't beat Dooku or any of the remaining sith.
Starkiller is overrated . And this upstart couldn't hope to contend with the Chosen One, one of the best swordsman of the Jedi Order and arguably one of the most powerful Sith Lord of all time.
Dooku is the next to go. Either Anakin or Sidious would best him.
Sidious wins.
* - This could be disputed, because Ventress beat Grievous on Dathomir. But Grievous also beat her and Durge. Grievous or Ventress could take this spot. But we are talking about a Free-For-All here.
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:37:33 GMT -5
Um... limited. Yeah, when she's had training from both sides of the Force AND moved Dooku's sabers... No one does that. That does not seems too difficult to do . You said Vader would die before her even though Vader kills all the Jedi and would probably be pretty equal to Palpatine if he wasn't stupid on mustafar and jumped at Obi Wan like a retard. I didn't know it was Vader without the suit, I thought it was the cyborg one. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:38:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Sidious would win. Savage would definitely die first, he is an amateur compared to all these other sith and the most inferior one there. Ventress is powerful, but the other remaining sith outmatch her. * Grievous is skilled with a lightsaber, but the other sith are very skilled with the force. Maul would die next. He couldn't beat Dooku or any of the remaining sith. Starkiller is overrated . And this upstart couldn't hope to contend with the Chosen One, one of the best swordsman of the Jedi Order and arguably one of the most powerful Sith Lord of all time. Dooku is the next to go. Either Anakin or Sidious would best him. Sidious wins. * - This could be disputed, because Ventress beat Grievous on Dathomir. But Grievous also beat her and Durge. Grievous or Ventress could take this spot. But we are talking about a Free-For-All here. When Grievous beat her and Durge, that was EU and during his time as a very powerful cyborg. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 13:38:46 GMT -5
I have a feeling if this actually happened at least 3 people would gang Sidious....
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Post by bobafett590 on Oct 14, 2013 13:39:01 GMT -5
Savage was slightly overpowered and Grievous kinda underpowered in TCW. But Savage only had a little bit of training and he just mindlessly waves his saber at enemies, Grievous could easily dodge him. True, but Savage almost killed Ventress in "Revenge" You can't be serious. Savage is an awful Sith. Horrible with a lightsaber and does poorly with the force unless Ventress or Dooku is moaning at him. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:39:17 GMT -5
Order for me:
-Grievous
-Savage
-Starkiller (IMO he's basically just Ahsoka, a bit more experienced)
-Ventress
-Maul
-Dooku
-Vader
-Sidious
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Post by bobafett590 on Oct 14, 2013 13:40:38 GMT -5
I have. Feeling if this actually happened at least 3 people would gang Sidious.... They would have to. If they don't gang up on him early then he will just completely destroy everybody. If any of those Sith tried to do one on one with Sidious they would lose. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 14, 2013 13:41:31 GMT -5
I have. Feeling if this actually happened at least 3 people would gang Sidious.... They would have to. If they don't gang up on him early then he will just completely destroy everybody. If any of those Sith tried to do one on one with Sidious they would lose. Vader and Starkiller alone could beat him if they went after him early and don't get tied into other fights. |
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Post by Namialus on Oct 14, 2013 13:43:31 GMT -5
They would have to. If they don't gang up on him early then he will just completely destroy everybody. If any of those Sith tried to do one on one with Sidious they would lose. Vader and Starkiller alone could beat him if they went after him early and don't get tied into other fights. I highly doubt they could kill Agen Kolar, Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, and Mace Windu... |
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