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Post by Pinda on Nov 18, 2014 18:41:36 GMT -5
Those prisoners that were with Varrick and Bolin. They said they were captured by Kuvira simply for having water tribe or fire nation blood... so it's basically like what Hitler did, discriminating all non-German people and putting certain "inferior races" in concentration camps. Oh oh oh that's what I was referring to. I thought the indoctrination camps were the same as what the prisoner camps. Well, I think the camp Bolin went to isn't the same as a concentration camp since I doubt they would have treated him that badly. But the camp the prisoners went to probably was very bad.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 18, 2014 18:45:19 GMT -5
Oh oh oh that's what I was referring to. I thought the indoctrination camps were the same as what the prisoner camps. Well, I think the camp Bolin went to isn't the same as a concentration camp since I doubt they would have treated him that badly. But the camp the prisoners went to probably was very bad. Yeah judging from their marks and bruises and such. Wish we got to see it... even though it would be too extreme for Nick.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 18, 2014 18:47:45 GMT -5
Well, I think the camp Bolin went to isn't the same as a concentration camp since I doubt they would have treated him that badly. But the camp the prisoners went to probably was very bad. Yeah judging from their marks and bruises and such. Wish we got to see it... even though it would be too extreme for Nick. Yeah, I can understand that they won't get into details about concentration camps But at least they hinted at them.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 18, 2014 18:50:52 GMT -5
Yeah judging from their marks and bruises and such. Wish we got to see it... even though it would be too extreme for Nick. Yeah, I can understand that they won't get into details about concentration camps But at least they hinted at them. They hint about alot of extreme stuff . Imagine if this was just netflix.... the dark and mature things they would allow thisshow to do.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 18, 2014 18:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I can understand that they won't get into details about concentration camps But at least they hinted at them. They hint about alot of extreme stuff . Imagine if this was just netflix.... the dark and mature things they would allow thisshow to do. If they ever make a new avatar series it shouldn't be on Nickelodeon and it should be very mature.
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Post by Star on Nov 18, 2014 19:06:01 GMT -5
Finished Book 2 last night. Yeah, things are becoming a lot more serious now. It was a really good way to end the season. Looking forward to Book 3, which I'll be starting this week sometime. And after that I'll move on to Korra.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 21, 2014 8:16:36 GMT -5
This was definitely the worst episode from the series... Except for Varrick's story it was horrible. It's like the "The Ember Island Players" only more serious...
Also, how did Varrick know Amon died... Suspicious...
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Post by Pinda on Nov 21, 2014 8:20:06 GMT -5
Oh I guess this explains why this episode was so bad... Nickelodeon slashed the budget for Legend of Korra by a lot so they couldn't afford a full season of real episodes with new animation.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 21, 2014 11:02:14 GMT -5
This episode is probably why Zaheer was listed as a voice actor for this season too.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 21, 2014 15:51:16 GMT -5
This episode is probably why Zaheer was listed as a voice actor for this season too. Or for Korra's visit to the prison.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 21, 2014 15:54:24 GMT -5
Idk... I was all on edge ready for Toph... but nope. I only liked Korra's storyline because it was about the world not needing her. I wished it was like "The Beach" and featured backstories for the villains. This would have been ALOT better if it was like Kuvira's backstory like talking to Baatar about their life and what her purpose is. And Baatar talking about his father and him. I just feel like we knew about Makos, Varriks was pointless I thought it would be about Zhu li. But IDK. A little let down LOK
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Post by Pinda on Nov 21, 2014 15:55:48 GMT -5
This episode is probably why Zaheer was listed as a voice actor for this season too. Or for Korra's visit to the prison. Well, that is not confirmed to happen... It might happen, but it doesn't have to happen now, this episode already explained why his voice actor was listed for this season.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 21, 2014 15:57:26 GMT -5
Idk... I was all on edge ready for Toph... but nope. I only liked Korra's storyline because it was about the world not needing her. I wished it was like "The Beach" and featured backstories for the villains. This would have been ALOT better if it was like Kuvira's backstory like talking to Baatar about their life and what her purpose is. And Baatar talking about his father and him. I just feel like we knew about Makos, Varriks was pointless I thought it would be about Zhu li. But IDK. A little let down LOK They couldn't show any new backstories, this episode only exists because Nickelodeon only gave them a budget for 12 episodes but they were supposed to make 13. It is really just a waste of an episode slot they could have used for something better... if they had the proper budget.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 21, 2014 15:59:13 GMT -5
Or for Korra's visit to the prison. Well, that is not confirmed to happen... It might happen, but it doesn't have to happen now, this episode already explained why his voice actor was listed for this season. I won't let my hopes go down . Ugh this episode could have been soo good if it wasn't just reusing old stuff. Mako's Storyline - didn't need to exist Korra's Storyline- Feeling like the world doesn't need her so she faces Zaheer in the prison to come for guidance. Varrik And Bolin- Returns to Republic City, talks to Zuko and his daughter have some political things going on with the president and Tenzin Instead of Mako's replace it with maybe another Asami and her Father, or Lin finding out that her sister is now captured.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 22, 2014 13:55:43 GMT -5
IDK if this was true but it was a comment on the Avatar Wiki that the original plot was going to be about Lin finding out about her sister's capture, and Toph being alive an all. And it was going to have emotional background behind Toph and why she left and the father. And Toph would hear Lin's pleads to help. And then some character development between Kuvira and Baatar and Zhu Li and THEN the scene with them cutting the tree would happen. You can see the suspense is off with Reunion with Kuvira cutting the tree. It didn't seem right for that scene to be in it.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 24, 2014 15:02:44 GMT -5
So I just watched part of an interview with the creators of the show and they said they might be interested in making another avatar series some time in the future but Nickelodeon owns the right so they can decide whether or not that will happen AND what people would work on that series, they might pick totally different people to make that series... which would suck.
Also, apparently Nickelodeon considered canceling Korra several times.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 24, 2014 17:44:29 GMT -5
So I just watched part of an interview with the creators of the show and they said they might be interested in making another avatar series some time in the future but Nickelodeon owns the right so they can decide whether or not that will happen AND what people would work on that series, they might pick totally different people to make that series... which would suck. Also, apparently Nickelodeon considered canceling Korra several times. Nickelodeon is no worse than Disney. Disney won't get rid of bad shows but Nick wants to get rid of exceptionally good shows. This world is messed up
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 24, 2014 17:51:39 GMT -5
"The Legend of Korra is widely recognized as one of the best animated adventure series of all time. Both the first and second seasons were criticized but its third series was really a global hit. It was praised by millions of fans worldwide for its interesting villains, extensive adventure as well as amazing action scenes." Yes LOK and ATLA IS the best animated television series not stupid Rebels.
"Now, Nickelodeon I have some choice words for you.
Korra and Avatar are two of your top critically acclaimed shows. Both rank higher on IMDB than Spongebob, Hey Arnold!, TMNT, Sanjay and Craig, The Fairly Oddparents, Penguins of Madagascar and more. You have won more awards for Korra in three years than SpongeBob did in same amount of time. By the way, listing a 12 year track of wins from your own heavily self-sponsored award show is kinda stupid, I’m just sayin. Korra is one of the most progressive series you’ve ever created. Even the NAACP was rooting for you! The Legend of Korra has been hailed as one of the best animated series on TV by multiple resources (see above links). Your series opened to one of the best release numbers for an animated series in recent history Look, Nick. I get it. I do. Animation is a business as much as it’s an art. You have to make money to stay in business. It’s a ridiculous balancing act between getting cash only to spend it creating more work, advertising, paying your staff of thousands, etc. I’ll grant that’s a gross over simplification, but that’s the art of the animation biz - make money so you can make more art.
However, my problem with you is – you’re not trying for Korra. You’re not going up to bat for my girl or her team, and I’m frankly ticked off about it. You’ve rescheduled her. You’ve lost viewership in an age of DVR and viewers watching online (something you expected and still somehow punished her for). Episodes from her third season get leaked and you freak out. You release too many episodes at once with next to no time for advertising. Then, you pull her down with no notice or explanation. Then somewhere in that fuck-nado you cut Korra’s budget so the team has one less episode to tell her story. We have to devote an entire episode to this clip BS because you don’t know what to do with her.
If this episode proved anything it’s you don’t know what to do with Korra. I have been to your sponsored industry mixers at festivals, I have met your executive staff, I have chatted with many of them, and while you are all “so proud” of Korra, you have no idea what to do with her. I will grant you this: She’s not your normal fare, but damnit why can’t you own that? You’re a business run by some of the most creative people in the world. Get creative! This is a problem you could have fixed!
You have a market, Nick. You have fans who are so desperate for merch they’ve started creating their own t-shirts, action figures, packaging and games - I mean really you can’t even release a physical Pai Sho game? My little brother loves Korra. He adores her. He wanted a toy, an action figure precisely, of Korra one Christmas and I was determined to find him one. So I head to Nick.com, click on the store for Korra and do you know what I found? Mousepads. No, really. Mousepads. Out of the handful of good merch (two plushies, the soundtrack and an art book), you had nothing my little brother could play with outside of mousepads, mugs, stickers and some decorative skateboards. This still hasn’t changed. You haven’t bothered making toys. You haven’t bothered to make relevant merchandise for a generation of kids who use tablets and phones. Oh, but you did make a video game! How did that go? Not well.
Nick, I’m just sick and tired of this. You’ve got a great show, with a stellar cast, award winning artists, some of the most passionate fans in animation and you didn’t even step up to the plate. You didn’t support your team. You have dragged Korra through the mud at almost every turn since season one and all you can say for yourself is, “We’re taking the show to digital distribution,” and, “Korra doesn’t match our normal lineup.” No. Those aren’t explanations. Those are excuses. You don’t do that to your workers. You don’t screw around with their jobs and then force their hand to make sub par work or fire their teammates (that they can’t lose because then the show wouldn’t get done). You don’t get to play that game and walk away scot-free without any blame. You are not going to walk away from this and leave the blame on Bryke and their crew. This is your fault Nick. You put them in that situation, and I am so disappointed in you.
Mike and Bryan deserve better. The art, sound, voice and writing team deserve better. The fans deserve better. But ultimately? Korra deserves better, and with this episode it’s plain to see you failed her."
Preach it. Once LOK is over I'm done with Nickelodeon.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 24, 2014 19:05:34 GMT -5
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 28, 2014 5:56:14 GMT -5
OMG I WAS RIGHT!!!! I really really loved this episode. Much much much better than the last two. This was impressive and I'm so happy for what they did pinda will love it. 9.7/10. I won't spoil anything yet
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Post by Pinda on Nov 28, 2014 8:58:24 GMT -5
OMG I WAS RIGHT!!!! I really really loved this episode. Much much much better than the last two. This was impressive and I'm so happy for what they did pinda will love it. 9.7/10. I won't spoil anything yet ZAHEER! Too bad there wasn't enough of him, and they never showed what happened with Zaheer and Korra when Korra returned to the physical world But he is still awesome. I knew he would be spending his time in the spirit world and I knew he would help Korra to fight Kuvira. I hope he will somehow aid her again later on. This was a great episode, although it felt a bit rushed... but I guess that is what happens when Nickelodeon takes money from your budget
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 28, 2014 9:13:08 GMT -5
OMG I WAS RIGHT!!!! I really really loved this episode. Much much much better than the last two. This was impressive and I'm so happy for what they did pinda will love it. 9.7/10. I won't spoil anything yet ZAHEER! Too bad there wasn't enough of him, and they never showed what happened with Zaheer and Korra when Korra returned to the physical world But he is still awesome. I knew he would be spending his time in the spirit world and I knew he would help Korra to fight Kuvira. I hope he will somehow aid her again later on. This was a great episode, although it felt a bit rushed... but I guess that is what happens when Nickelodeon takes money from your budget Yes I actually wanted her to say something like "Thank you" If they had an actual good budget and more episodes I'm sure Zaheer would be in numerous episodes. I wished he mentioned something about Pi Lee and his other members. But it was a good move to have him return. Bravo LOK I keep jinxing myself saying Toph will be in the next episode. I guess... next episode? Maybe?
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Post by Pinda on Nov 28, 2014 9:13:18 GMT -5
Imagine if this had been spread out over two episodes (instead of the "clip episode"), that would have been really good.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 28, 2014 9:14:51 GMT -5
ZAHEER! Too bad there wasn't enough of him, and they never showed what happened with Zaheer and Korra when Korra returned to the physical world But he is still awesome. I knew he would be spending his time in the spirit world and I knew he would help Korra to fight Kuvira. I hope he will somehow aid her again later on. This was a great episode, although it felt a bit rushed... but I guess that is what happens when Nickelodeon takes money from your budget Yes I actually wanted her to say something like "Thank you" If they had an actual good budget and more episodes I'm sure Zaheer would be in numerous episodes. I wished he mentioned something about Pi Lee and his other members. But it was a good move to have him return. Bravo LOK I keep jinxing myself saying Toph will be in the next episode. I guess... next episode? Maybe? If they had their full budget they could have spread out this episode's story. And Toph will appear soon I guess... there are only 4 episodes left and the last 2 will air at the same time
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 28, 2014 9:16:04 GMT -5
Imagine if this had been spread out over two episodes (instead of the "clip episode"), that would have been really good. Yeah I really wanted to know what Episode 8 would have been with a good budget. Oh well, Nickelodeon is bringing the show to it's knees. :/ But they are releasing Book 3 and 4 on Nick Toons. They edited alot of the online episodes though. Guess it was too "mature" for their younger generation.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 28, 2014 9:16:46 GMT -5
Yes I actually wanted her to say something like "Thank you" If they had an actual good budget and more episodes I'm sure Zaheer would be in numerous episodes. I wished he mentioned something about Pi Lee and his other members. But it was a good move to have him return. Bravo LOK I keep jinxing myself saying Toph will be in the next episode. I guess... next episode? Maybe? If they had their full budget they could have spread out this episode's story. And Toph will appear soon I guess... there are only 4 episodes left and the last 2 will air at the same time Actually I think it's the last four will air next Friday is what I heard.... 4 part series finale.
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Post by Pinda on Nov 28, 2014 9:18:58 GMT -5
Imagine if this had been spread out over two episodes (instead of the "clip episode"), that would have been really good. Yeah I really wanted to know what Episode 8 would have been with a good budget. Oh well, Nickelodeon is bringing the show to it's knees. :/ But they are releasing Book 3 and 4 on Nick Toons. They edited alot of the online episodes though. Guess it was too "mature" for their younger generation. Really? They edited the episodes? That's sad... What did they cut out? The only thing I could kind of understand would be the earth queen's death... but even that seems unnecessary.
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