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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 12, 2015 13:23:04 GMT -5
Kylo Ren being part of the "Knights of Ren" sounds pretty cool though. I think that article also made it obvious that he's Han and Leia's son. And JJ Abrams made it seem like Luke's going to be the central figure of the entire Sequel Trilogy. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes evil at the end of Episode VIII or something. I'm not sure about Kylo being their son, since being called "Kylo Solo" sounds kind of silly I think they'll throw a curveball and make him Luke's son. Also, I'm not sure if Luke will turn evil. The whole question "Who is Luke Skywalker?" does sound like they'll look into him more, but I don't think Rian Johnson will give us that crazy a twist Knight stuff makes the lightsaber make more sense But that should be cool hopefully that means there are other "Ren" people.. I suspect the Knights are what came out of the Inquisitors when Ol' Palps and Vader went pop. Not to mention they can leap over the hurdle of "If Anakin brought back balance then why are Sith still here?' with this new enemy.
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Post by Potato on Aug 12, 2015 14:34:14 GMT -5
I'm guessing that they're not too heavily affiliated with Palpatine and Vader. It did say that Kylo was obsessed with Vader, but I think that's probably more of a personal thing (and because I bet Vader's his grandfather). It'll be interesting to see what their ultimate goal is though... it has to have something to do with Luke. Do they want to turn him? Or maybe they fear that he'll become even worse then Anakin and they want to destroy him before he reaches his true power. There's lots of possibilities. I just really like all of this because I'm picturing the Knights of Ren as sort of an evil jedi council, and in this case Snoke is like Yoda.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 12, 2015 14:38:53 GMT -5
I think kylo not being his real name makes it more plausible for him to be Han's son because skywalker Solo...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 13, 2015 1:55:19 GMT -5
I think kylo not being his real name makes it more plausible for him to be Han's son because s kywalker So lo... Holy crud, I did not think of that. You're blowing my mind man
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Post by Newan on Aug 14, 2015 12:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 14, 2015 17:34:28 GMT -5
The x wing seems more like the OT x wings I thought the wings like split differently and connected like puzzle pieces...
Rey's goggles look like old Stormtrooper lenses lol she's wearing uggs
Flame troopers look weird I thought I remember seeing an image where they had regular first order trooper helmets only with the backpack and more black accents.. But I think this differentiation is good
Nice look at kylo's lightsaber it's pretty damaged.. The middle black piece also looks like anakin's lightsaber maybe it is his with several modifications... Also I don't think you can really cut yourself with it especially if you're using one hand because the part you hold is pretty far down and the side blades have some metal extensions so
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Post by Legolas on Aug 15, 2015 15:14:39 GMT -5
Still disappointed in the new stormtrooper helmet design, but Kylo Ren looks great.
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Post by Potato on Aug 15, 2015 15:56:35 GMT -5
They released an exclusive poster for this at D23 and it showed Finn holding Anakin/Luke's old blue lightsaber. That lines up with earlier rumors about him using it in the third act. I'm thinking he'll use it to duel Kylo Ren (because every Star Wars movie needs a lightsaber duel), but he'll be using it more out of necessity since a blaster won't do anything against Kylo. I don't think he'll really discover he's force sensitive until XIII or IX.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 15, 2015 16:44:06 GMT -5
They released an exclusive poster for this at D23 and it showed Finn holding Anakin/Luke's old blue lightsaber. That lines up with earlier rumors about him using it in the third act. I'm thinking he'll use it to duel Kylo Ren (because every Star Wars movie needs a lightsaber duel), but he'll be using it more out of necessity since a blaster won't do anything against Kylo. I don't think he'll really discover he's force sensitive until XIII or IX. But remember what Luke said in the trailer. "The Force is strong in my family. My father had it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power, too." I assume he's talking to Finn because who else, right? It's not Rey or Poe otherwise they'd be the ones with the lightsaber.
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Post by Potato on Aug 15, 2015 16:59:30 GMT -5
They released an exclusive poster for this at D23 and it showed Finn holding Anakin/Luke's old blue lightsaber. That lines up with earlier rumors about him using it in the third act. I'm thinking he'll use it to duel Kylo Ren (because every Star Wars movie needs a lightsaber duel), but he'll be using it more out of necessity since a blaster won't do anything against Kylo. I don't think he'll really discover he's force sensitive until XIII or IX. But remember what Luke said in the trailer. "The Force is strong in my family. My father had it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power, too." I assume he's talking to Finn because who else, right? It's not Rey or Poe otherwise they'd be the ones with the lightsaber. I actually don't think that dialogue's in the movie. I think they just reused it from Return of the Jedi specifically for that trailer. But it's obviously there for a reason, yeah. I'm pretty sure it's referring to Rey though. I think she might use the lightsaber as well. I still think she's Han and Leia's daughter. If not, then maybe Luke's.
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Post by Namialus on Aug 15, 2015 17:09:42 GMT -5
But remember what Luke said in the trailer. "The Force is strong in my family. My father had it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power, too." I assume he's talking to Finn because who else, right? It's not Rey or Poe otherwise they'd be the ones with the lightsaber. I actually don't think that dialogue's in the movie. I think they just reused it from Return of the Jedi specifically for that trailer. But it's obviously there for a reason, yeah. I'm pretty sure it's referring to Rey though. I think she might use the lightsaber as well. I still think she's Han and Leia's daughter. If not, then maybe Luke's. I'd be happy if it was Rey instead. But it seems like Finn is the main character and he's holding the lightsaber so I assumed he's the Jedi of this trilogy (Anakin, Luke, then Finn). But it'd be cool if it was Rey.
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Post by Star on Aug 17, 2015 13:46:49 GMT -5
I think it'd be great if they tried to make you think it was Finn but Rey was actually the "Jedi" of the new trilogy. Having a female Jedi with a large role would be welcome in my opinion.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 17, 2015 13:52:59 GMT -5
On the subject of new Jedi, I'm hoping that in those long 30 years Luke did at least succeed just a little bit in training more Jedi. Maybe something bad happened and they scattered again. Not very strong a possibility, but it's something. Because I'd find it kind of boring that the only Jedi we really get are Luke and Rey and Finn as apprentices or something. It'd just make it look like Luke was really late to the party in heeding Yoda's last request in "Passing on what you've learnt".
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Post by Potato on Aug 17, 2015 14:48:19 GMT -5
There doesn't have to be one singular new jedi. Both Rey and Finn can be jedi. I think Rey will be more of the "chosen one" type of character of the trilogy (like Anakin and Luke), but I still think Finn will receive some training.
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Post by Newan on Aug 20, 2015 14:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 20, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5
Oh I already watched the first one I think.... It's already been released then?
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Post by Newan on Aug 20, 2015 15:18:09 GMT -5
Oh I already watched the first one I think.... It's already been released then? Well I think they released something similar a long time ago but I'm not sure if it's the same maybe not
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 20, 2015 16:46:33 GMT -5
Oh I already watched the first one I think.... It's already been released then? Well I think they released something similar a long time ago but I'm not sure if it's the same maybe not I watched droid tales idk
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 11:01:41 GMT -5
Remember when I talked about that Darth Plagueis theory? Snoke (the main bad guy for the trilogy) has been officially described as "an old man that looks like a zombie, as if he has risen from the dead" So that could very well be Plagueis, or a Old Republic character or possibly even Palpatine himself (although if that were the case I supposed Ian McDiarmid would have voiced him). Plagueis seems most likely though, since he is the only character associated with reviving the dead. Anyway, with a description like that I feel like he has to be (related to) a character we already know, otherwise it would be very disappointing in my opinion.
EDIT: He is also described as a "Being of supreme intellect". Seems fitting if it would be Plagueis the wise.
Either way, these theories about Snoke are the only thing that get me interested in these new movies, they better not do something boring with this character.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 1, 2015 11:28:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure. Disney seems pretty desperate to forget about anything to do with the prequels except to say they're canon. I'm more for thinking he's a former Inquisitor that decided to head in a different direction to the Sith after ol' Palps and Vader snuffed it.
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2015 11:32:58 GMT -5
Remember when I talked about that Darth Plagueis theory? Snoke (the main bad guy for the trilogy) has been officially described as "an old man that looks like a zombie, as if he has risen from the dead" So that could very well be Plagueis, or a Old Republic character or possibly even Palpatine himself (although if that were the case I supposed Ian McDiarmid would have voiced him). Plagueis seems most likely though, since he is the only character associated with reviving the dead. Anyway, with a description like that I feel like he has to be (related to) a character we already know, otherwise it would be very disappointing in my opinion. EDIT: He is also described as a "Being of supreme intellect". Seems fitting if it would be Plagueis the wise. Either way, these theories about Snoke are the only thing that get me interested in these new movies, they better not do something boring with this character. Snoke? What? That sounds even dumber than Sheev. Snoke is the name you give Random Trandoshan Villain #3, not the villain of your whole trilogy.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 11:47:34 GMT -5
Remember when I talked about that Darth Plagueis theory? Snoke (the main bad guy for the trilogy) has been officially described as "an old man that looks like a zombie, as if he has risen from the dead" So that could very well be Plagueis, or a Old Republic character or possibly even Palpatine himself (although if that were the case I supposed Ian McDiarmid would have voiced him). Plagueis seems most likely though, since he is the only character associated with reviving the dead. Anyway, with a description like that I feel like he has to be (related to) a character we already know, otherwise it would be very disappointing in my opinion. EDIT: He is also described as a "Being of supreme intellect". Seems fitting if it would be Plagueis the wise. Either way, these theories about Snoke are the only thing that get me interested in these new movies, they better not do something boring with this character. Snoke? What? That sounds even dumber than Sheev. Snoke is the name you give Random Trandoshan Villain #3, not the villain of your whole trilogy. Snoke definitely doesn't sound worse than Sheev... Sheev is just ridiculous. Snoke isn't a great name, but it sounds alright... and it might not even be his real name.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 11:52:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure. Disney seems pretty desperate to forget about anything to do with the prequels except to say they're canon. I'm more for thinking he's a former Inquisitor that decided to head in a different direction to the Sith after ol' Palps and Vader snuffed it. But if they want to call this movie Star Wars Episode 7, they will have to have some connections to the first 3 episodes. And Plagueis wasn't really that much of a prequel character, he was only mentioned in one scene. But I highly doubt it is an Inquisitor, the main villain being an Inquisitor that was somehow brought back to life would be a lame and uninteresting thing to reveal. I would be more inclined to believed it is Palpatine than to believe it is a former inquisitor (if the descriptions are indeed official).
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 11:59:46 GMT -5
Also, let's not forget this concept art: Darth Plagueis with his mask (couldn't find any better pictures for this):
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2015 12:33:45 GMT -5
I have nothing against African Americans at all, but Finn looks so silly and pathetic. I could care less what skin color he is, but Finn looks terrible, and his name sucks too. "Finn" doesn't sound like a name that's in Star Wars or a name that's the new face of the new trilogy. I watched scenes of the actor and to be honest he isn't that great. He's not bad, but he's not very good at portraying 3 Dimensional characters, he's just... there. Apparently "Plasma" the cool looking stormtrooper is a woman too. I just hope she isn't a returning character. And if this image is real, then Kylo looks silly without a mask.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2015 12:45:49 GMT -5
I highly predict that more than 50% of the reviews will be positive just due to the nostalgia effect. I don't think I'll enjoy this film, not cause it looks bad, but just cause we don't need it. To me the film will only feel like a fanfiction, and that's not what I want to watch when I go to theaters. Soon enough Star Wars will be milked excessively just like Disney did with Marvel.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 12:49:38 GMT -5
I highly predict that more than 50% of the reviews will be positive just due to the nostalgia effect. I don't think I'll enjoy this film, not cause it looks bad, but just cause we don't need it. To me the film will only feel like a fanfiction, and that's not what I want to watch when I go to theaters. Soon enough Star Wars will be milked excessively just like Disney did with Marvel. Just like the prequels? And Star Wars is already being milked by Disney... I mean a movie every year? Lots of stupid Pay2Win mobile games? A crappy Battlefront Pay2win version with no real effort put into it? Yeah they are milking it...
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2015 12:53:52 GMT -5
I highly predict that more than 50% of the reviews will be positive just due to the nostalgia effect. I don't think I'll enjoy this film, not cause it looks bad, but just cause we don't need it. To me the film will only feel like a fanfiction, and that's not what I want to watch when I go to theaters. Soon enough Star Wars will be milked excessively just like Disney did with Marvel. Just like the prequels? And Star Wars is already being milked by Disney... I mean a movie every year? Lots of stupid Pay2Win mobile games? A crappy Battlefront Pay2win version with no real effort put into it? Yeah they are milking it... Let's not forget the potential Live Action Netflix show. "Pay to watch". Battlefront will suck, I've played Battlefield and the latest one sucked completely. Since EA is incharge of Battlefront it'll be terrible. Rogue One is also written by none other than Gary who brought us "After Earth". Good choice Disney!
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2015 13:30:22 GMT -5
Just like the prequels? And Star Wars is already being milked by Disney... I mean a movie every year? Lots of stupid Pay2Win mobile games? A crappy Battlefront Pay2win version with no real effort put into it? Yeah they are milking it... Let's not forget the potential Live Action Netflix show. "Pay to watch". Battlefront will suck, I've played Battlefield and the latest one sucked completely. Since EA is incharge of Battlefront it'll be terrible. Rogue One is also written by none other than Gary who brought us "After Earth". Good choice Disney! Pay to watch only applies to people that don't know how to pirate
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 1, 2015 14:29:10 GMT -5
I highly predict that more than 50% of the reviews will be positive just due to the nostalgia effect. I don't think I'll enjoy this film, not cause it looks bad, but just cause we don't need it. To me the film will only feel like a fanfiction, and that's not what I want to watch when I go to theaters. Soon enough Star Wars will be milked excessively just like Disney did with Marvel. I don't know CBK. The original post Episode 6 EU felt like some pretty bad fanfiction... This film does kinda have a similar feel, only difference being it's technically official, but I don't think it'll make as many cringeworthy, or straight up terrible choices as the EU did. But I definitely agree that Disney is taking every advantage possible to bleed it dry of profit, but that's just Disney in a nutshell
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