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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 17:46:57 GMT -5
The majority of SW fans are not male. There are plenty of female SW fans. It's opinions like this which forward the general stereotype that SW and sci-fi are for boys. They're not. Remember the "Katie" campaign a few years ago? So it's not okay to lose a sexist male audience but it's okay to not have a female audience? The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. One extra female character isn't going to balance anything. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:46:58 GMT -5
Yeah, that clone in the Citadel arc that lived for two minutes before falling into an electric mine was pretty crucial by letting the Separatists know they were there. And don't forget the random clone who piloted the Twilight and looked at naughty pictures while the others rescued R2. Or the droids standing out side guarding Ahsoka to demonstrate Anakin's piss offed ness. And then that disappearing clone trooper from the Citadel who demonstrated beaming in Star Wars Exactly. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:48:27 GMT -5
And besides, they've already said there was another female actor in the movie they haven't announced yet. 2/8 isn't much better than 1/7. No, that would make it 3/8. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 17:48:53 GMT -5
And besides, they've already said there was another female actor in the movie they haven't announced yet. 2/8 isn't much better than 1/7. Lets not forget Leia.....  Lol jk... Kind of..... |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:48:59 GMT -5
The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. One extra female character isn't going to balance anything. I didn't say that though. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 17:52:29 GMT -5
The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. One extra female character isn't going to balance anything. How many things are even balanced with equal males and females...... Look at a classroom for example almost always more guys than girls but no one complains about it being sexist or whatever.... What I'm saying is balance isn't everything... So what if there are more guys than girls in this movie? I don't watch movies for a gender balanced cast..... Besides we don't know what the characters will be like and there could be more not revealed yet seriously I don't see how it's a big problem action movies such as Star Wars will usually be like this.. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 17:57:30 GMT -5
IMO it doesn't really matter how many female characters there are, but how good and complex the female characters are. If there's one female that's strong and a good addition to the story, it's better than four or five eye candy female characters.
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 18:00:19 GMT -5
IMO it doesn't really matter how many female characters there are, but how good and complex the female characters are. If there's one female that's strong and a good addition to the story, it's better than four or five eye candy female characters. Although eye candy isn't bad..... loljkkindanotreallysorrynotsorry Yes characters like that are always welcome |
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Post by bane on May 1, 2014 18:02:15 GMT -5
IMO it doesn't really matter how many female characters there are, but how good and complex the female characters are. If there's one female that's strong and a good addition to the story, it's better than four or five eye candy female characters. Although eye candy isn't bad..... loljkkindanotreallysorrynotsorry Yes characters like that are always welcome Eye candy.  |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 18:08:05 GMT -5
IMO it doesn't really matter how many female characters there are, but how good and complex the female characters are. If there's one female that's strong and a good addition to the story, it's better than four or five eye candy female characters. Although eye candy isn't bad..... loljkkindanotreallysorrynotsorry Yes characters like that are always welcome Depends on the movie bro... |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 18:14:18 GMT -5
Although eye candy isn't bad..... loljkkindanotreallysorrynotsorry Yes characters like that are always welcome Depends on the movie bro... What |
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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 18:26:28 GMT -5
2/8 isn't much better than 1/7. No, that would make it 3/8. Untrue. I was counting the 8 new characters. It would make it 3/11, or something like that. |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:13:12 GMT -5
Satine was in 13 episodes. I think that would make her an important character. Clones are in nearly every episode but they're not that important.. (Not talking about ones like Rex btw) and still 13 out of about 120 episodes is not that much.. And she wasn't the focus in those episodes as well  ... Oh mother of all helicopter potatoes you did not just say that! |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:17:04 GMT -5
But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. Everyone is crucial *clears throat* says the person who also said that the majority of the clones did not matter *clears throat again*...  |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:22:30 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters. Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work. The majority of SW fans are not male. There are plenty of female SW fans. It's opinions like this which forward the general stereotype that SW and sci-fi are for boys. They're not. Remember the "Katie" campaign a few years ago? So it's not okay to lose a sexist male audience but it's okay to not have a female audience? I totally agree, however in a few of George Lucas' biographies the talks about when he (George) was first designing stuff for the SW movies and his (first) wife asked him what he was doing he did reply with "I'm making a franchise that 10 year old boys will like"... not that I read his biographies or anything.  |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:25:06 GMT -5
The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. One extra female character isn't going to balance anything. Maybe in the SW universe more male children are born, even at my school the boy/girl ratio is not balanced, there are more boys. |
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Post by Star on May 1, 2014 20:26:19 GMT -5
It's not sexist by having more males than females in a movie. It just so happens that a movie franchise like Star Wars must have a plot that works better with more males. Thats not sexist. The story just work out that way and Episode 7 must have a story like that. Still, 3/8 or whatever the ratio is is far better than 1/6 or 2/10 from the other two trilogies (or something like that ) And besides, the character development of either gender is far more important than the number of that gender in the movie. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 20:28:59 GMT -5
Clones are in nearly every episode but they're not that important.. (Not talking about ones like Rex btw) and still 13 out of about 120 episodes is not that much.. And she wasn't the focus in those episodes as well ... Oh mother of all helicopter potatoes you did not just say that! I'm saying important to the story they're basically just there to fight the enemy and win the battle or whatever *clears throat* says the person who also said that the majority of the clones did not matter *clears throat again*... Every single person changes the outcome of things but I'm saying in the long run random faceless clones aren't that important to the story or anything.. |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:30:21 GMT -5
It's not sexist by having more males than females in a movie. It just so happens that a movie franchise like Star Wars must have a plot that works better with more males. Thats not sexist. The story just work out that way and Episode 7 must have a story like that. Still, 3/8 or whatever the ratio is is far better than 1/6 or 2/10 from the other two trilogies (or something like that ) And besides, the character development of either gender is far more important than the number of that gender in the movie. Of topic: there should be an "Agreement" button or something instead of just a "like" button. |
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Post by Star on May 1, 2014 20:33:12 GMT -5
It's not sexist by having more males than females in a movie. It just so happens that a movie franchise like Star Wars must have a plot that works better with more males. Thats not sexist. The story just work out that way and Episode 7 must have a story like that. Still, 3/8 or whatever the ratio is is far better than 1/6 or 2/10 from the other two trilogies (or something like that ) And besides, the character development of either gender is far more important than the number of that gender in the movie. Of topic: there should be an "Agreement" button or something instead of just a "like" button. Do you agree with me? And I think the like button serves as that as well. When I like a comment, it's usually cause it's either, funny, something I agree with, or I like the comment in general. And for all of these reasons, I'll like it when for these reasons when I feel a direct reply is unnecessary. So I use it for a few things at once |
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Post by Commander Slime on May 1, 2014 20:35:05 GMT -5
... Oh mother of all helicopter potatoes you did not just say that! I'm saying important to the story they're basically just there to fight the enemy and win the battle or whatever *clears throat* says the person who also said that the majority of the clones did not matter *clears throat again*... Every single person changes the outcome of things but I'm saying in the long run random faceless clones aren't that important to the story or anything.. Did you watch/understand "Ambush" in TCW? Even Yoda said it does not matter what they look like, but what they do that defines them. (Lol, Yoda/Batman quote |
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Post by Star on May 1, 2014 20:38:58 GMT -5
I'm saying important to the story they're basically just there to fight the enemy and win the battle or whatever Every single person changes the outcome of things but I'm saying in the long run random faceless clones aren't that important to the story or anything.. Did you watch/understand "Ambush" in TCW? Even Yoda said it does not matter what they look like, but what they do that defines them. (Lol, Yoda/Batman quote Obi is getting burned over and over HOW DO YOU FEEL??? |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 21:05:08 GMT -5
But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. Especially Satine and Talzin. Characters like Maul, Savage and possibly Cad Bane appeared in fewer episodes than Satine. And they were definitely important characters. Umm Maul and Death watch where the main focus of Satine not her... She was just a filler and only had the first arc kinda around her. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 21:06:30 GMT -5
The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. One extra female character isn't going to balance anything. Cause it doesn't need to be an even split at 5-5 or anything... Name knew franchise that ever has an even split or more Females that is actually popular. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 21:09:19 GMT -5
It's not sexist by having more males than females in a movie. It just so happens that a movie franchise like Star Wars must have a plot that works better with more males. Thats not sexist. The story just work out that way and Episode 7 must have a story like that. Still, 3/8 or whatever the ratio is is far better than 1/6 or 2/10 from the other two trilogies (or something like that ) And besides, the character development of either gender is far more important than the number of that gender in the movie. Yeah I agree. And lets not forget there's a pretty big majority of male fans over female as well which would factor into it I believe. And males make much better villains IMO anyways I like females before when they're on the hero side. |
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Post by Star on May 1, 2014 21:16:32 GMT -5
It's not sexist by having more males than females in a movie. It just so happens that a movie franchise like Star Wars must have a plot that works better with more males. Thats not sexist. The story just work out that way and Episode 7 must have a story like that. Still, 3/8 or whatever the ratio is is far better than 1/6 or 2/10 from the other two trilogies (or something like that ) And besides, the character development of either gender is far more important than the number of that gender in the movie. Yeah I agree. And lets not forget there's a pretty big majority of male fans over female as well which would factor into it I believe. And males make much better villains IMO anyways I like females before when they're on the hero side. Yeah, make ones are generally cooler, although a female one would be pretty sick if they executed it right. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 21:17:55 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. And lets not forget there's a pretty big majority of male fans over female as well which would factor into it I believe. And males make much better villains IMO anyways I like females before when they're on the hero side. Yeah, make ones are generally cooler, although a female one would be pretty sick if they executed it right. An apprentice role would be pretty cool for a female character I guess for a villain but the main antagonist of the sequels should be a male like the emperor or Dooku IMO. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 2, 2014 5:00:47 GMT -5
I'm saying important to the story they're basically just there to fight the enemy and win the battle or whatever Every single person changes the outcome of things but I'm saying in the long run random faceless clones aren't that important to the story or anything.. Did you watch/understand "Ambush" in TCW? Even Yoda said it does not matter what they look like, but what they do that defines them. (Lol, Yoda/Batman quote Well I was talking about being in more episodes doesn't make you important... And also the episodes with background clones... Sure they're important in a way the fight the enemy and win baffles but if they're just there in episodes they're not important in those episodes.. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 2, 2014 7:07:36 GMT -5
... Oh mother of all helicopter potatoes you did not just say that! I'm saying important to the story they're basically just there to fight the enemy and win the battle or whatever *clears throat* says the person who also said that the majority of the clones did not matter *clears throat again*... Every single person changes the outcome of things but I'm saying in the long run random faceless clones aren't that important to the story or anything.. Ok Krell |
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Post by Namialus on May 2, 2014 14:13:08 GMT -5
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... Oh mother of all helicopter potatoes you did not just say that!
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