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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 14:07:13 GMT -5
TCW had so many female characters because it was a full show. Star Wars trilogies are three movies. So three movies can't have female characters? They can have a balance. Females aren't any different. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 15:31:32 GMT -5
TCW had so many female characters because it was a full show. Star Wars trilogies are three movies. So three movies can't have female characters? They can have a balance. Females aren't any different. Well yes they are but... |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 16:11:09 GMT -5
TCW had so many female characters because it was a full show. Star Wars trilogies are three movies. So three movies can't have female characters? They can have a balance. Females aren't any different. But you can't use TCW as a comparison since it has hours of more content compared to a trilogy of movies. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 16:12:38 GMT -5
TCW had so many female characters because it was a full show. Star Wars trilogies are three movies. The clone wars movie already had 3 female main characters (Padme, Ahsoka and Ventress) and that movie was shorter than the prequel of original movies. Yes, but three characters isn't much different than two. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 16:15:02 GMT -5
I think it's too early to criticize this for it's lack of femininity. We have no idea how large of roles the two main female characters are going to have (and remember that's main characters, there's still more characters in the movie that haven't been announced yet). Male to female ratios are usually like this in movies anyway so it's not like it's never happened before.
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2014 16:16:45 GMT -5
The clone wars movie already had 3 female main characters (Padme, Ahsoka and Ventress) and that movie was shorter than the prequel of original movies. Yes, but three characters isn't much different than two. The prequel and originals only had 1 female main character though. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 16:21:55 GMT -5
Also most of the females in TCW had minor roles/appeared in just a few episodes.. Padme, Ventress, Ahsoka, Satine, Talzin, Aurra Sing... ahsoka is really the only one IMO... The other ones are all minor and would only appear once in a season sometimes twice if they're lucky... And even that stoped with season 6'since Ahsoka is no longer a main character. |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2014 16:23:45 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, Ahsoka, Satine, Talzin, Aurra Sing... ahsoka is really the only one IMO... The other ones are all minor and would only appear once in a season sometimes twice if they're lucky... And even that stoped with season 6'since Ahsoka is no longer a main character. I don't think Padme and Ventress were minor characters at all. And I'm sure Ahsoka would have returned in later seasons. Also, the only male main characters we had were Obi-wan and Anakin then... |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 16:24:33 GMT -5
TCW had so many female characters because it was a full show. Star Wars trilogies are three movies. So three movies can't have female characters? They can have a balance. Females aren't any different. In terms of action movies yes they kinda are... Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Any Star Wars movies, Pirates of the Caribbean, LOTR and The Hobbit, etc |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 16:26:21 GMT -5
ahsoka is really the only one IMO... The other ones are all minor and would only appear once in a season sometimes twice if they're lucky... And even that stoped with season 6'since Ahsoka is no longer a main character. I don't think Padme and Ventress were minor characters at all. And I'm sure Ahsoka would have returned in later seasons. Also, the only male main characters we had were Obi-wan and Anakin then... Yeah that the 2 the clone wars is most focused about so... |
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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 16:26:28 GMT -5
I think it's too early to criticize this for it's lack of femininity. We have no idea how large of roles the two main female characters are going to have (and remember that's main characters, there's still more characters in the movie that haven't been announced yet). Male to female ratios are usually like this in movies anyway so it's not like it's never happened before. Just because it's happened before doesn't mean it's okay. |
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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 16:27:06 GMT -5
So three movies can't have female characters? They can have a balance. Females aren't any different. In terms of action movies yes they kinda are... Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Any Star Wars movies, Pirates of the Caribbean, LOTR and The Hobbit, etc Again, just because this is how it is doesn't mean it's okay. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 16:28:25 GMT -5
In terms of action movies yes they kinda are... Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Any Star Wars movies, Pirates of the Caribbean, LOTR and The Hobbit, etc Again, just because this is how it is doesn't mean it's okay. Whatever. |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2014 16:33:16 GMT -5
I don't think Padme and Ventress were minor characters at all. And I'm sure Ahsoka would have returned in later seasons. Also, the only male main characters we had were Obi-wan and Anakin then... Yeah that the 2 the clone wars is most focused about so... I disagree. I think Ahsoka and Anakin are the 2 most important characters. Obi-wan is often around but his character barely develops and Ahsoka/Anakin usually get the most screentime. |
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2014 16:46:03 GMT -5
Yeah that the 2 the clone wars is most focused about so... I disagree. I think Ahsoka and Anakin are the 2 most important characters. Obi-wan is often around but his character barely develops and Ahsoka/Anakin usually get the most screentime. I said Ahsoka WAS a main character. Anakin Ahsoka Obi-Wan Rex |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 16:57:17 GMT -5
Also most of the females in TCW had minor roles/appeared in just a few episodes.. Padme, Ventress, Ahsoka, Satine, Talzin, Aurra Sing... Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2014 16:58:56 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, Ahsoka, Satine, Talzin, Aurra Sing... Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes Satine was in 13 episodes. I think that would make her an important character. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 17:01:29 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes Satine was in 13 episodes. I think that would make her an important character. Clones are in nearly every episode but they're not that important.. (Not talking about ones like Rex btw) and still 13 out of about 120 episodes is not that much.. And she wasn't the focus in those episodes as well |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 17:23:53 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, Ahsoka, Satine, Talzin, Aurra Sing... Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. |
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2014 17:25:29 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. Especially Satine and Talzin. Characters like Maul, Savage and possibly Cad Bane appeared in fewer episodes than Satine. And they were definitely important characters. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:31:43 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters.
Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work.
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 17:32:53 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters. Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work. Yes you can. Agents of Shield sucks while Cap 2 was great. |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:34:31 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters. Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work. Yes you can. Agents of Shield sucks while Cap 2 was great. Agents of Shield is a series of multiple episodes... Cap 2 is a movie. They both work in different ways, have different budgets, time slots, and audiences. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2014 17:36:41 GMT -5
Padme, Ventress, and Ahsoka are exceptions Satine, Talzin, and Aurra were also in just a few episodes But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. Everyone is crucial |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:38:37 GMT -5
But Satine, Barriss, and Talzin are all pretty crucial. Everyone is crucial Yeah, that clone in the Citadel arc that lived for two minutes before falling into an electric mine was pretty crucial by letting the Separatists know they were there. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 1, 2014 17:44:37 GMT -5
Yeah, that clone in the Citadel arc that lived for two minutes before falling into an electric mine was pretty crucial by letting the Separatists know they were there. And don't forget the random clone who piloted the Twilight and looked at naughty pictures while the others rescued R2. Or the droids standing out side guarding Ahsoka to demonstrate Anakin's piss offed ness. And then that disappearing clone trooper from the Citadel who demonstrated beaming in Star Wars |
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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 17:44:37 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters. Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work. The majority of SW fans are not male. There are plenty of female SW fans. It's opinions like this which forward the general stereotype that SW and sci-fi are for boys. They're not. Remember the "Katie" campaign a few years ago? So it's not okay to lose a sexist male audience but it's okay to not have a female audience? |
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:44:54 GMT -5
And besides, they've already said there was another female actor in the movie they haven't announced yet.
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Post by Potato on May 1, 2014 17:46:13 GMT -5
You just can't compare a series to a movie. They're different. Instead, look at specific arcs in something like TCW. Satine's the only only female character in the first Mandalore arc. She was with Padme and then Ashoka in the later one but most people didn't like those. And then her and Bo-Katan were the only female characters in the Maul/Mandalore arc. But no one knows the plot of this movie yet and how they're going to use these characters. Also, the majority of SW fans are male. Which means they're going to have more male characters. You can call it unfair all you want but that's how it works. That's how most movies are, and movies always have either more males or more females. If they have more females in a SW movie, you're going to lose some of your male audience. That's just the way things work. The majority of SW fans are not male. There are plenty of female SW fans. It's opinions like this which forward the general stereotype that SW and sci-fi are for boys. They're not. Remember the "Katie" campaign a few years ago? So it's not okay to lose a sexist male audience but it's okay to not have a female audience? The majority are. The majority has to be either one or the other, and I can guarantee you it's males. There are still plenty of female characters in star wars and there's going to be more in this movie. |
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Post by Namialus on May 1, 2014 17:46:27 GMT -5
And besides, they've already said there was another female actor in the movie they haven't announced yet. 2/8 isn't much better than 1/7. |
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