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Post by Kenbo on Oct 22, 2019 5:55:00 GMT -5
Looks great visually. Other than that idk. Someone said there was a battle droid Easter egg/cameo but I don't see it
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Post by Pinda on Oct 22, 2019 6:04:09 GMT -5
Based on this trailer I am afraid the leaks I heard about actually true and Palpatine will be turned into a really lame character...
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Post by Pinda on Oct 22, 2019 6:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Oct 22, 2019 10:39:53 GMT -5
After the trailer, I'm a little more excited. The music was phenomenal. My biggest concern is that it can tell a solid story that nicely wraps up the wobbly narrative of these sequels.
There's also some speculation that Rey's dagger she holds at the clip of her and Kylo smashing the statue could tie into the Mortis dagger. I'm not sure they'd go that deep in the lore, but it's still interesting.
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 22, 2019 15:57:32 GMT -5
After the trailer, I'm a little more excited. The music was phenomenal. My biggest concern is that it can tell a solid story that nicely wraps up the wobbly narrative of these sequels. There's also some speculation that Rey's dagger she holds at the clip of her and Kylo smashing the statue could tie into the Mortis dagger. I'm not sure they'd go that deep in the lore, but it's still interesting. Might be cool to have a Mortis tie in but I don't think anyone over there actually even gives a fuck about Star Wars lol. And tbh tying in Mortis might just be going down a rabbit hole |
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Post by Newan on Oct 22, 2019 16:07:35 GMT -5
After the trailer, I'm a little more excited. The music was phenomenal. My biggest concern is that it can tell a solid story that nicely wraps up the wobbly narrative of these sequels. There's also some speculation that Rey's dagger she holds at the clip of her and Kylo smashing the statue could tie into the Mortis dagger. I'm not sure they'd go that deep in the lore, but it's still interesting. Might be cool to have a Mortis tie in but I don't think anyone over there actually even gives a fuck about Star Wars lol. And tbh tying in Mortis might just be going down a rabbit hole Well after the events of Rebels there’s been speculation since TFA that Ezra May have founded the Knights of Ren... so possible? Thrawn likelt had something to do with the first order as well |
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Post by Spidyyr on Oct 22, 2019 17:52:41 GMT -5
And who has a better story than C-3PO the broken?
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Oct 23, 2019 16:20:58 GMT -5
Might be cool to have a Mortis tie in but I don't think anyone over there actually even gives a fuck about Star Wars lol. And tbh tying in Mortis might just be going down a rabbit hole Well after the events of Rebels there’s been speculation since TFA that Ezra May have founded the Knights of Ren... so possible? Thrawn likelt had something to do with the first order as well Nah, that would make Ezra's character some level of interest, so I doubt that would be true  |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 25, 2019 19:57:03 GMT -5
Jango Fett Clone ghosts confirmed
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Post by Pinda on Dec 12, 2019 7:10:13 GMT -5
Honestly, they screwed themselves by bringing back Sheev. If Palpy survived his "death" in ROTJ (or even planned it as some leals suggest) there is simply no way to have him be defeated realistically by a whiny Vader fanboy and an untrained scavenger.
Palpatine is all-powerful, apparently capable of cheating death. And he is also capable of predicting everything apparently, including his "death". So whatever they do, unless they also revive Anakin Palpatine's inevitable defeat will be stupid and unrealistic.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 12, 2019 7:18:56 GMT -5
Honestly, they screwed themselves by bringing back Sheev. If Palpy survived his "death" in ROTJ (or even planned it as some leals suggest) there is simply no way to have him be defeated realistically by a whiny Vader fanboy and an untrained scavenger. Palpatine is all-powerful, apparently capable of cheating death. And he is also capable of predicting everything apparently, including his "death". So whatever they do, unless they also revive Anakin Palpatine's inevitable defeat will be stupid and unrealistic. This is what they call writing yourself into a corner |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 12, 2019 16:43:58 GMT -5
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 12, 2019 18:46:24 GMT -5
As someone who absolutely loved the Last Jedi and is extremely looking forward to this one, it's always difficult to see all the negativity around it  |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 12, 2019 20:45:19 GMT -5
As someone who absolutely loved the Last Jedi and is extremely looking forward to this one, it's always difficult to see all the negativity around it Maybe I am too harsh on this movie, I haven't read the full leaks yet... And I guess there wasn't really a lot they could do after TLJ, which in my opinion was ridiculously bad (I felt like I was watching some weird incoherent Star Wars dream or something). I don't think this next movie is going to be any good... but I guess based on the leaks I have read it might at be better than TLJ. In fact they seem to attempt to undo some of TLJ's greatest mistakes. But you can't fix everything, so I guess it is not fair to judge this movie for the terrible set-up provided by its predecessor. Maybe if Abrams had done all three movies they would at least not have seemed like a disconnected mess. Because if what I read is actually true (and I am assuming it is because I read some of the leaks before Disney leaked the soundtrack and the soundtrack titles match the leaks) than TLJ will feel completely out of place and irrelevant, it is completely inconsistent with the other two. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 17, 2019 9:41:58 GMT -5
Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 10:46:19 GMT -5
The first critics called this movie "rude to Ryan Johnson" apparently. I am more inclined to go see it now...
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 10:51:04 GMT -5
Leaked footage of Sheev looks ridiculous though.
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 11:03:56 GMT -5
Oh fuck the worst leaks are confirmed.
RIP Palpatine's character 1980 - 2019. His entire character is a joke now. I am not watching this.
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 17, 2019 11:20:23 GMT -5
Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
To be fair, I’d be pretty surprised to find out JJ even knows who that is. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 17, 2019 12:42:52 GMT -5
Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
I think Hayden’s public appearances are due to Kenobi spinoff show tbh |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 17, 2019 13:59:37 GMT -5
Oh fuck the worst leaks are confirmed. RIP Palpatine's character 1980 - 2019. His entire character is a joke now. I am not watching this. Palpatine shouldn't be alive period. It creates so many plot holes and makes the prophecy and the actions of Anakin and Luke all for nothing TFA started it by pressing a rest button on everything. Everything is exactly as it was before making every achievement and every bit of character development from the OT literally pointless Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
I think Hayden’s public appearances are due to Kenobi spinoff show tbh I hope he's in something I want to see Anakin again. But he seriously should've been in the ST. The Skywalker Saga is about him how can he not be there at the end... Reading the other leaks about Rey make me want to kms I cannot believe these movies exist |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 17, 2019 16:15:12 GMT -5
Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
Oh god... |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 17, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -5
Haven't seen the leaks except some very minor stuff, but honestly Disney could've probably avoided all this flak if they made this just a reboot of the OT. Sure it would be sacrilege, but would it be anymore blasphemous than the moves the ST has pulled? Not really. That way, when it inevitably got enough bad press, they'd go back to the drawing board and make a more fanservice ridden ST that, y'know, actually pays respect to the characters who made this whole thing good in the first place |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 17, 2019 17:12:09 GMT -5
Haven't seen the leaks except some very minor stuff, but honestly Disney could've probably avoided all this flak if they made this just a reboot of the OT. Sure it would be sacrilege, but would it be anymore blasphemous than the moves the ST has pulled? Not really. That way, when it inevitably got enough bad press, they'd go back to the drawing board and make a more fanservice ridden ST that, y'know, actually pays respect to the characters who made this whole thing good in the first place I wanted them to reboot the PT. Probably would’ve been more realistic for them to do as TFA was basically “apologizing” for the PT But instead of rebooting anything they should’ve recast the big three with young actors and continue right after ROTJ. Or just stay within the established timeline. They seem to be decent at not fucking up when using George’s material for example Rogue One and Solo. But they just had no idea what to do with such a big time skip. I’ve always thought a big problem was trying to include the original actors. Those guys will always be legends but come on do people really want to see their heroes when they’re old and weak? |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 17, 2019 17:58:42 GMT -5
Haven't seen the leaks except some very minor stuff, but honestly Disney could've probably avoided all this flak if they made this just a reboot of the OT. Sure it would be sacrilege, but would it be anymore blasphemous than the moves the ST has pulled? Not really. That way, when it inevitably got enough bad press, they'd go back to the drawing board and make a more fanservice ridden ST that, y'know, actually pays respect to the characters who made this whole thing good in the first place I wanted them to reboot the PT. Probably would’ve been more realistic for them to do as TFA was basically “apologizing” for the PT But instead of rebooting anything they should’ve recast the big three with young actors and continue right after ROTJ. Or just stay within the established timeline. They seem to be decent at not fucking up when using George’s material for example Rogue One and Solo. But they just had no idea what to do with such a big time skip. I’ve always thought a big problem was trying to include the original actors. Those guys will always be legends but come on do people really want to see their heroes when they’re old and weak? I don't think there's a problem with showing an older bunch of heroes. I actually welcome it, since old people have their own special brand of badass Unfortunately, this is Disney, a company pathologically obsessed with youth That being said, I would not mind seeing a recast for a post ROTJ movie |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 19:39:15 GMT -5
Okay so all the leaks were correct. Forget the movie. The real entertainment will be watching the Star Wars subreddit trying to make sense of this movie...
We need a Star Wars version of r/freefolk
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 19:52:12 GMT -5
Been reading some leaks...
Anakin is apparently not in this... Fuck. This. Movie. Fuck the whole trilogy. It is a colossal dumpster fire you can't retcon this shit anymore whole thing needs to be declared non canon.
I agree. This need to be decanonized or Disney can fuck off with their Star Wars universe. The only thing this new trilogy does is undo the entire story that came before.
I ruins the OT by bringing back Palpy and whatever they did with Luke in TLJ.
Then this movie ruins the Prequels by completely negating Anakin's chosen one status... and turning Palpatine into an idiot who apparently planned everything just so Rey could become Empress?
This trilogy cannot be considered Star Wars canon because it goes against everything that Star Wars was about and somehow Disney doesn't realize that. Somehow no one working on these movies seemed to understand the main themes and storylines of the original 6 movies... |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 19:53:17 GMT -5
Oh fuck the worst leaks are confirmed. RIP Palpatine's character 1980 - 2019. His entire character is a joke now. I am not watching this. Palpatine shouldn't be alive period. It creates so many plot holes and makes the prophecy and the actions of Anakin and Luke all for nothing TFA started it by pressing a rest button on everything. Everything is exactly as it was before making every achievement and every bit of character development from the OT literally pointless I agree. But if they were going to bring him back they at least should have gotten Anakin involved in some way... |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 20:03:31 GMT -5
Haven't seen the leaks except some very minor stuff, but honestly Disney could've probably avoided all this flak if they made this just a reboot of the OT. Sure it would be sacrilege, but would it be anymore blasphemous than the moves the ST has pulled? Not really. That way, when it inevitably got enough bad press, they'd go back to the drawing board and make a more fanservice ridden ST that, y'know, actually pays respect to the characters who made this whole thing good in the first place No need to reboot the OT. What they should have done: 1. Create a new post-OT trilogy that is NOT part of the 'Skywalker saga'. Have it focus on Rebellion's fight with the remnants of the Empire. Get some younger actors to do the main characters (like they did with Solo) and focus on Luke, Leia and Han after ROTJ without creating a story that once again involves Sheev. 2. Create a variety of spin-off series focusing on specific characters or events from the main movies and TCW that remain largely unexplored. There is plenty of options, Star Wars has a large universe with a lot of characters. Just use those. Do a Palpatine spin-off with Plagueis. Do a spin-off with Ahsoka after ROTS. Do a spin-off with a bunch of bounty hunters. Do a spin-off about the guy trying to sell Obi-wan deathsticks... I don't care, there are so many options and Disney didn't properly explore them until recently. 3. Do something with the Old Republic era. It does not have to be a complete copy of the Old Republic stuff we already have, but there is a lot that can be done with the 35.000 years before the movies. 4. Stories set hundreds of years after ROTJ. Show us completely new things in the Star Wars universe. You could have the events of the movies survive as myths, like inaccurate stories that only vagualy represented the truth we know. You could even do something with those myths if you really wanted to, maybe have someone find Anakin's old lightsaber or a Jedi holocron from the Old Republic. But mostly focus on new stuff, new technology, new political organizations, new types of force users. But I guess Disney wanted a safe choice that would make them lots of money. They don't give a fuck about creativity. Their entire business model is stealing existing stories or mass-producing movies that appeal to as many people as possible without trying something new. Just look at Marvel, those movies are basically mass-produced and ripped right out of existing comics. There is no originality or creativity involved. And apparently that works. So Disney thought they could do something similar with Star Wars I guess... and it still seems to work because they made a lot of money with the first two Sequels. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 17, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -5
Basically I am done with Star Wars. There was so much potential, but they wasted it all with this Sequel trilogy. TFA was a complete remake of a story we already knew. Rogue One was alright, but nothing special. The Last Jedi was a disconnected mess. Honestly one of the worst movies I have ever seen in terms of plot. It felt like some random guy who never watched Star Wars and never wrote anything made the script. Solo was actually the only movie I kind of enjoyed. This is the kind of movie Disney should have been making. It was not a masterpiece, but I actually liked watching it. It had interesting characters and expanded the universe. The Darth Maul cameo was nice. But this movie flopped because of TLJ so we will probably never see anything like this again. The Mandalorian, for now, seems to be shit. Not much else to say about it. I like the premise. I like the way it looks. The first episodes seemed alright. But it lacks story, character development and proper dialogue. It is not enjoyable. It might still manage to redeem itself before the end of its season, but I doubt it. I don't think I even need to waste any words on the animated series Disney made. And the games? I will admit I have not tried the latest game, but other than that we got two Battlefront games that fail to match the original 2005 game despite their shiny new graphics. And a bunch of pay2win mobile games. Good job EA. This franchise is done. Of course, it is Star Wars and people will keep watching it for a considerable time. But it is creatively dead. I am going to finish this season of the Mandalorian just because I am 6 episodes in already, and I am going to watch TCW season 7. Maybe I will watch the Kenobi series for Ewan... But I am not watching Rise of Skywalker or anything else from Disney Star Wars. As far as I am concerned the Star Wars canon consists of 6 movies and TCW. Now I am done complaining about this franchise.  |
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