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Post by Kenbo on Jul 28, 2016 22:02:54 GMT -5
Anyways I'm saying yes, because Luke ends up being "Rouge One" in the Hoth Battle. Assuming Jyn is actually the original Rouge One, she could die in this movie or some time between ANH-ESB I don't think she will die because she's the main character I really don't understand the title. How are the pilot code names relevant... Like it's catchy and interesting but they were from TESB... If it was Red One or Gold One (I don't remember what they were during the trench run) it would make some more sense... But not as cool sounding as Rogue I suppose. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 29, 2016 19:01:03 GMT -5
It told us what the Clone Wars were, how the Emperor came to power, why Anakin turned. And you have to admit they're more necessary than the TFA Not really though TFA is a continuation of the original movies and it passes the torch to the new characters from the old characters in a more direct way then Prequels to Orginals did. With the Orginals you only had Kenobi passing the torch with the new movies you got Han/ Leia passing the torch and now Luke. But in order for the sequels to happen, they had to pretty much destroy everything that happened in the OT and reset everything back to the way it was before ANH. This alone pretty much shows why they really have no reason to exist. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 29, 2016 19:02:26 GMT -5
Anyways I'm saying yes, because Luke ends up being "Rouge One" in the Hoth Battle. Assuming Jyn is actually the original Rouge One, she could die in this movie or some time between ANH-ESB She probably should die as it would add more impact to the story. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 29, 2016 19:09:18 GMT -5
Not really though TFA is a continuation of the original movies and it passes the torch to the new characters from the old characters in a more direct way then Prequels to Orginals did. With the Orginals you only had Kenobi passing the torch with the new movies you got Han/ Leia passing the torch and now Luke. But in order for the sequels to happen, they had to pretty much destroy everything that happened in the OT and reset everything back to the way it was before ANH. This alone pretty much shows why they really have no reason to exist. Nah it's literally 30 years late, they didn't destroy anything. The Empire wouldn't have realistically fallen after Endor, it got reformed into the first order |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 29, 2016 23:16:00 GMT -5
But in order for the sequels to happen, they had to pretty much destroy everything that happened in the OT and reset everything back to the way it was before ANH. This alone pretty much shows why they really have no reason to exist. Nah it's literally 30 years late, they didn't destroy anything. The Empire wouldn't have realistically fallen after Endor, it got reformed into the first order But it basically became just the Empire again. Same power and everything. I would've preferred if maybe the First Order were just forming in TFA and it gained power and influence as the trilogy progressed. IDK. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 30, 2016 2:00:51 GMT -5
Nah it's literally 30 years late, they didn't destroy anything. The Empire wouldn't have realistically fallen after Endor, it got reformed into the first order But it basically became just the Empire again. Same power and everything. I would've preferred if maybe the First Order were just forming in TFA and it gained power and influence as the trilogy progressed. IDK. The Empire was just the result of the prequels though... Literally all of the Republic and Confederacys planets combined to make a galactic empire, that won't just fall apart because of its leader dying. Rome didn't fall in a day, it took decades of decline. Even though it doesn't tell us much, I think the First Order and the New Republic are pretty split on the Galaxy, they where likely not at war from what it seemed like however the Resistance formed from former Rebel alliance members was opposing the First Order directly and the New Republic was secretly backing the Resistance. Which is why the First Order took them out, now what's left of the Republic will certainly be openly fighting the First Order |
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Post by Potato on Jul 30, 2016 9:07:07 GMT -5
Reading Bloodline helps make the whole Resistance/First Order thing a lot clearer. A lot of Senators and other people in the New Republic missed the Empire and preferred a centralized power structure like that, so they secretly began backing the First Order. Leia forms the Resistance because the New Republic and the Senate is too ineffective and inefficient to do anything (hey, sort of like real world politics!  ). |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 30, 2016 19:45:48 GMT -5
But it basically became just the Empire again. Same power and everything. I would've preferred if maybe the First Order were just forming in TFA and it gained power and influence as the trilogy progressed. IDK. The Empire was just the result of the prequels though... Literally all of the Republic and Confederacys planets combined to make a galactic empire, that won't just fall apart because of its leader dying. Rome didn't fall in a day, it took decades of decline. Even though it doesn't tell us much, I think the First Order and the New Republic are pretty split on the Galaxy, they where likely not at war from what it seemed like however the Resistance formed from former Rebel alliance members was opposing the First Order directly and the New Republic was secretly backing the Resistance. Which is why the First Order took them out, now what's left of the Republic will certainly be openly fighting the First Order Why the Sith though? Why are they suddenly super powerful now? Does this mean Anakin was useless? |
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Post by Newan on Jul 30, 2016 20:05:51 GMT -5
The Empire was just the result of the prequels though... Literally all of the Republic and Confederacys planets combined to make a galactic empire, that won't just fall apart because of its leader dying. Rome didn't fall in a day, it took decades of decline. Even though it doesn't tell us much, I think the First Order and the New Republic are pretty split on the Galaxy, they where likely not at war from what it seemed like however the Resistance formed from former Rebel alliance members was opposing the First Order directly and the New Republic was secretly backing the Resistance. Which is why the First Order took them out, now what's left of the Republic will certainly be openly fighting the First Order Why the Sith though? Why are they suddenly super powerful now? Does this mean Anakin was useless? The prophecy was always kind of stupid tbh... By definition balance in the force means light and dark.... By killing the Sith (dark side) how can there even be balance? I mean Mortis itself had balance, The Father was neutral, Daughter was light and Son was Dark... When the daughter died The Father literally says the balance has been lost and has shifted to the dark side, which makes sense. It was restored when the Son died. Can't have balance by getting rid of the other. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 30, 2016 20:22:35 GMT -5
Why the Sith though? Why are they suddenly super powerful now? Does this mean Anakin was useless? The prophecy was always kind of stupid tbh... By definition balance in the force means light and dark.... By killing the Sith (dark side) how can there even be balance? I mean Mortis itself had balance, The Father was neutral, Daughter was light and Son was Dark... When the daughter died The Father literally says the balance has been lost and has shifted to the dark side, which makes sense. It was restored when the Son died. Can't have balance by getting rid of the other. So did Anakin actually create balance in Episode III then by having the Sith equal the Jedi? |
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Post by Newan on Jul 30, 2016 20:32:14 GMT -5
The prophecy was always kind of stupid tbh... By definition balance in the force means light and dark.... By killing the Sith (dark side) how can there even be balance? I mean Mortis itself had balance, The Father was neutral, Daughter was light and Son was Dark... When the daughter died The Father literally says the balance has been lost and has shifted to the dark side, which makes sense. It was restored when the Son died. Can't have balance by getting rid of the other. So did Anakin actually create balance in Episode III then by having the Sith equal the Jedi? Perhaps but tbh I think the prophecy was just the excuse they used to have a 10 year old trained in TPM... They for some reason couldn't think of a better idea |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 31, 2016 0:28:43 GMT -5
So did Anakin actually create balance in Episode III then by having the Sith equal the Jedi? Perhaps but tbh I think the prophecy was just the excuse they used to have a 10 year old trained in TPM... They for some reason couldn't think of a better idea Perhaps. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 31, 2016 0:33:01 GMT -5
Like the prophecy stuff didn't matter at all, it's just kind of stupid... Could have just had the council say no, Qui-Gon is defiant and says he will train Anakin, Obi-Wan takes after Qui-Gon... Which is what happened and the prophecy crap didn't do anything to that end...
Then GL goes on the behind the scenes stuff justifying the prophecy saying "Anakin" does fulfill the prophecy by killing himself and the Emperor... What... No he was saving his son, not fulfilling no prophecy
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 31, 2016 1:48:32 GMT -5
This is getting terribly off-topic. Sorry about that.
I acknowledge that Rogue One and TFA's similarities to the OT can be rationalized. But my issue is why such issues must rise in the first place. Star Wars can be Star Wars without having a group of rebels battling Stormtroopers, or X-Wings shooting down TIE fighters, or a Death Star. Similar themes or even the same characters can keep the universe together without having to resort to the same (or suspiciously similar) settings or recycled stories. Star wars to me at least feels to recycled and safe. And with a galaxy to explore, this shouldn't be such an issue as its become.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 31, 2016 12:56:43 GMT -5
Like the prophecy stuff didn't matter at all, it's just kind of stupid... Could have just had the council say no, Qui-Gon is defiant and says he will train Anakin, Obi-Wan takes after Qui-Gon... Which is what happened and the prophecy crap didn't do anything to that end... Then GL goes on the behind the scenes stuff justifying the prophecy saying "Anakin" does fulfill the prophecy by killing himself and the Emperor... What... No he was saving his son, not fulfilling no prophecy I always liked the idea that Anakin was the imbalance in the force and by dying he would bring balance. There always has to be dark where there is light so therefore I always liked that there needed to be Sith in order for the Jedi to survive. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 31, 2016 13:38:54 GMT -5
To me it's the light side and light side users like Jedi are balanced between selflessness and selfishness. Sith are completely selfish so eliminating that extreme brings balance... That's one way to make sense of something that does not make sense.....
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Post by Pinda on Jul 31, 2016 14:30:44 GMT -5
The prophecy was always kind of stupid tbh... By definition balance in the force means light and dark.... By killing the Sith (dark side) how can there even be balance? I mean Mortis itself had balance, The Father was neutral, Daughter was light and Son was Dark... When the daughter died The Father literally says the balance has been lost and has shifted to the dark side, which makes sense. It was restored when the Son died. Can't have balance by getting rid of the other. So did Anakin actually create balance in Episode III then by having the Sith equal the Jedi? I really feel that is what the Mortis trilogy implied. |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 2, 2016 21:21:28 GMT -5
There was a tv spot but there wasn't anything new... I guess they will start coming out now since there's less than 4 months left... Well I guess that's still a while... Idk
There should be a new trailer soon though...
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 4, 2016 11:59:35 GMT -5
They made a U-wing starfighter... It doesn't really make sense to introduce all these new ships and Stormtrooper classes and whatnot when they never show up again...
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Post by Potato on Aug 11, 2016 21:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by Potato on Aug 11, 2016 21:47:23 GMT -5
Ironically, this looks like it's doing more new things than TFA did.  I liked how the trailer used some of the same music that the final TFA trailer had though. This movie looks great and I really hope it turns out as good as it looks! |
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Post by Potato on Aug 11, 2016 21:59:49 GMT -5
Jyn was also a lot better in this trailer. I didn't like how Felicity Jones delivered her lines in the last trailer, but she sounded much better in this one and seems really likable now.
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Post by Newan on Aug 11, 2016 23:54:06 GMT -5
Jyn is better, not nearly as annoying as that first teaser.
But honestly the Rebels idk they’re all meh… I care a lot more for the Empire lol, Vader and the new officer.
Vader is going to be 100% the one who kills Saw, quite ironic given how they met in TCW.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 12, 2016 0:23:43 GMT -5
Good music. Droid sounds weird... I thought Alan Tudyk might change his voice but it's just his regular voice. I was expecting something more badass like highsinger not more like 3PO |
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Post by Potato on Aug 12, 2016 9:03:38 GMT -5
Jyn is better, not nearly as annoying as that first teaser. But honestly the Rebels idk they’re all meh… I care a lot more for the Empire lol, Vader and the new officer. Vader is going to be 100% the one who kills Saw, quite ironic given how they met in TCW. I agree about Saw. People have been speculating for a while that Vader will kill a named character in this, and if it's going to be anyone I bet it'll be Saw. |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 12, 2016 12:20:20 GMT -5
Wait where are the Death Star plans... On the Death Star or are they trying to find Galen Erso.. I'd like them to infiltrate the Death Star again. I think it'll just be the end though. The Vader shot looks like it was on it.
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Post by Potato on Aug 13, 2016 11:16:25 GMT -5
Damn, all the people complaining online about two female leads in a row are really annoying... this is the eighth Star Wars film and only the second with a female lead. I don't even get why some people are making a big deal out of it anyway.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 13, 2016 12:11:40 GMT -5
Damn, all the people complaining online about two female leads in a row are really annoying... this is the eighth Star Wars film and only the second with a female lead. I don't even get why some people are making a big deal out of it anyway. Yeah I don't think it's that big of a deal and like in TFA, Rey might be the real main character but Finn had about as big of a role as she did |
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Post by Newan on Aug 13, 2016 13:12:16 GMT -5
Damn, all the people complaining online about two female leads in a row are really annoying... this is the eighth Star Wars film and only the second with a female lead. I don't even get why some people are making a big deal out of it anyway. I don't think it's Star Wars directly I think it's more then that like Hunger Games, Divergent, the New Ghostbusters, etc... |
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Rogue One
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Post by squiggy on Aug 18, 2016 7:39:42 GMT -5
I rewatched this trailer again, this trailer still doesnt peek my interest. Somebody kock some Stsr Wars into me.
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I liked how the trailer used some of the same music that the final TFA trailer had though. 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 