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Post by Kenbo on Mar 5, 2019 17:34:27 GMT -5
I hope they don't kill Bronn. They've had some good opportunities to do so, notably during S7 when he saved Jaime, so I feel like at this point they should keep him alive. I've always had the feeling Jorah would die; I'm surprised he's survived this long. I'm not too sure what they'll do with the Hound and some other characters like him though... could see it going either way. Bronn is going to rule the Twins when all of this is over. Spolier alert bruh 😤 lol nah that's good I didn’t think Jaime and Edmure was him being evil though. He had to convince Edmure that he was willing to butcher Riverrun so he would surrender the castle. If he hadn’t done that, a huge and bloody battle would’ve ensued. I would've liked him to just change sides but I guess it's hard for him to abandon his house as well as Cersei who he's loved for so long that he still convinces himself he still loves her |
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 5, 2019 18:03:06 GMT -5
I hope they don't kill Bronn. They've had some good opportunities to do so, notably during S7 when he saved Jaime, so I feel like at this point they should keep him alive. I've always had the feeling Jorah would die; I'm surprised he's survived this long. I'm not too sure what they'll do with the Hound and some other characters like him though... could see it going either way. Bronn is going to rule the Twins when all of this is over. Nah he’ll get the Red Keep. |
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Post by Star on Mar 5, 2019 21:07:11 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised they gave us a trailer. There's a lot to take in, but it's interesting that the Night King isn't present. It makes me think he may not even be around for the sacking of Winterfell and instead be focused on Kings Landing.
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Post by Pinda on Mar 6, 2019 14:59:33 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised they gave us a trailer. There's a lot to take in, but it's interesting that the Night King isn't present. It makes me think he may not even be around for the sacking of Winterfell and instead be focused on Kings Landing. We didn't really see any White Walkers or wights in action though. I suspect most of what we saw was from the first episode. The Night King will probably not appear until the second. Also, I wonder if the Night King even knows about King's landing. It has only been around for 300 years, and I doubt the White Walkers got a lot of news updates all the way up north. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Mar 6, 2019 15:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think the Nights King has a set target. It’s just kill everyone in his path.
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Post by Pinda on Mar 6, 2019 18:35:27 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think the Nights King has a set target. It’s just kill everyone in his path. I don't think that is the case either though. I refuse to believe the Night King and the White Walkers are pure evil, and just want to kill everyone. The Night King seems intelligent enough, he probably does have a goal. I hope they will explore this in the limited time we have left. Maybe for the sake of keeping things simple they won't... but the books definitely will (if they are ever finished). I don't think Martin does pure evil. |
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Post by Star on Mar 6, 2019 19:16:23 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think the Nights King has a set target. It’s just kill everyone in his path. I don't think that is the case either though. I refuse to believe the Night King and the White Walkers are pure evil, and just want to kill everyone. The Night King seems intelligent enough, he probably does have a goal. I hope they will explore this in the limited time we have left. Maybe for the sake of keeping things simple they won't... but the books definitely will (if they are ever finished). I don't think Martin does pure evil. I agree that GRRM probably won't opt for a pure evil narrative if he writes the books. I do think it is possible that something or someone tips off the Night King where he wants to go next (possibly Kings Landing). Having him die in the third episode would feel a little anticlimatic for how they've set him and the rest of the White Walkers up, so I'm holding out hope his larger mission takes him until at least the fifth episode. |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 6, 2019 20:36:39 GMT -5
I don't think that is the case either though. I refuse to believe the Night King and the White Walkers are pure evil, and just want to kill everyone. The Night King seems intelligent enough, he probably does have a goal. I hope they will explore this in the limited time we have left. Maybe for the sake of keeping things simple they won't... but the books definitely will (if they are ever finished). I don't think Martin does pure evil. I agree that GRRM probably won't opt for a pure evil narrative if he writes the books. I do think it is possible that something or someone tips off the Night King where he wants to go next (possibly Kings Landing). Having him die in the third episode would feel a little anticlimatic for how they've set him and the rest of the White Walkers up, so I'm holding out hope his larger mission takes him until at least the fifth episode. I think he will get to Kings Landing. They won't kill off the Night King without handing him a major victory first. IF the Night King dies I think it will be in King's Landing actually... and he will probably take the city down with him. King's Landing has many pockets of wildfire, like the one Cersei used to blow up the Sept, placed by Aerys Targaryen to "burn them all". My guess is that Aerys wasn't really mad, but Bran (or someone else) warned and/or gave him visions of the White Walkers... they are who he wanted to burn. The purpose of the wildfire is to stop the White Walkers. So someone will blow up King's Landing once the White Walkers get through the walls. That us why Dany saw an icy and destroyed Red Keep in her visions. The Red Keep will be blown up during the winter. Not sure if this will happen... but there are plenty of hints pointing ti King's Landing being destroyed in the books... and it would give us the "bittersweet" ending they promised. |
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 6, 2019 20:44:14 GMT -5
I agree that GRRM probably won't opt for a pure evil narrative if he writes the books. I do think it is possible that something or someone tips off the Night King where he wants to go next (possibly Kings Landing). Having him die in the third episode would feel a little anticlimatic for how they've set him and the rest of the White Walkers up, so I'm holding out hope his larger mission takes him until at least the fifth episode. My guess is that Aerys wasn't really mad, but Bran (or someone else) warned and/or gave him visions of the White Walkers... they are who he wanted to burn. The purpose of the wildfire is to stop the White Walkers. That's a really cool theory actually |
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Post by Star on Mar 6, 2019 20:52:03 GMT -5
I agree that GRRM probably won't opt for a pure evil narrative if he writes the books. I do think it is possible that something or someone tips off the Night King where he wants to go next (possibly Kings Landing). Having him die in the third episode would feel a little anticlimatic for how they've set him and the rest of the White Walkers up, so I'm holding out hope his larger mission takes him until at least the fifth episode. I think he will get to Kings Landing. They won't kill off the Night King without handing him a major victory first. IF the Night King dies I think it will be in King's Landing actually... and he will probably take the city down with him. King's Landing has many pockets of wildfire, like the one Cersei used to blow up the Sept, placed by Aerys Targaryen to "burn them all". My guess is that Aerys wasn't really mad, but Bran (or someone else) warned and/or gave him visions of the White Walkers... they are who he wanted to burn. The purpose of the wildfire is to stop the White Walkers. So someone will blow up King's Landing once the White Walkers get through the walls. That us why Dany saw an icy and destroyed Red Keep in her visions. The Red Keep will be blown up during the winter. Not sure if this will happen... but there are plenty of hints pointing ti King's Landing being destroyed in the books... and it would give us the "bittersweet" ending they promised. That makes sense, but an ending like that could take away from Cersei, who I feel like the TV show has built into the main "villain". |
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 7, 2019 19:52:59 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by Pinda on Mar 25, 2019 10:50:54 GMT -5
After reading Fire and Blood I am pretty sure King's Landing is going to burn to the ground. There are several references to the city being destroyed by fire. I can't remember them all but there is one section that mentions how all the secret rooms and passages in King's Landing were made in anticipation of a fire that would burn down the entire city.
There is also some kind of prophet who comes to the city to claiming that the dragons have to be killed or King's Landing will be cleansed "of demons and all who bow before them" by the "Stranger's fire". He repeats that a chapter later, claiming all people in the city will burn and see their children "weeping till their eyes do melt and slide like jelly down their face" (interesting choice of words). The Prophet actually predicts other events quite accurately (like the death of the king) so he likely has a real ability to see into the future. And IF King's Landing will be destroyed to stop the White Walkers (demons) he may have been right (just about 170 years too early) about killing the dragons to prevent that. After all, the only reason the Night King gets through the wall if because he managed to turn a dragon.
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Post by Star on Apr 7, 2019 14:08:34 GMT -5
One more week until we see if the wait was worth it. So many people I know have been jumping on the bandwagon.
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 7, 2019 14:17:14 GMT -5
I just really hope it doesn't turn into some LOTR clone and that it has some genuine surprises up its sleeve.
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 7, 2019 14:17:45 GMT -5
If Jaime killing Cersei is the most shocking thing that happens, I'm gonna be disappointed.
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Post by Star on Apr 7, 2019 14:43:30 GMT -5
I just really hope it doesn't turn into some LOTR clone and that it has some genuine surprises up its sleeve. It'll be tough to pull several major surprises I think, since the anticipation is so high and so many are trying to predict countless possibilities. But I agree that I'd like a final few truly unexpected twists. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 11, 2019 17:38:54 GMT -5
The actor who plays the Night King said this about his character in season 8:
"People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is,” says Furdik. "There’s also that moment [in the fifth season episode Hardhome] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time."
From this quote I am going to assume his target is not Jon... Or the actor would probably be spoiling it... kind off... Also, if Jon had been his target that would be stupid because he could easily have gone for Jon at Hardhome or Eastwatch. So who could it be? My guess would be Cersei. I mean, the wight they brought to King's Landing really seemed to want her, specifically, to die. But it could also be Dany because she represents his opposite (fire vs ice). Or Bran because he is clearly the most powerful person south of the Wall. Any thoughts?
I am glad the Night King is not just a mindless villain who wants to murder everyone though. He seems to have a specific goal, and that makes for a more interesting story.
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 11, 2019 17:45:38 GMT -5
The actor who plays the Night King said this about his character in season 8: "People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is,” says Furdik. "There’s also that moment [in the fifth season episode Hardhome] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time." From this quote I am going to assume his target is not Jon... Or the actor would probably be spoiling it... kind off... Also, if Jon had been his target that would be stupid because he could easily have gone for Jon at Hardhome or Eastwatch. So who could it be? My guess would be Cersei. I mean, the wight they brought to King's Landing really seemed to want her, specifically, to die. But it could also be Dany because she represents his opposite (fire vs ice). Or Bran because he is clearly the most powerful person south of the Wall. Any thoughts? I am glad the Night King is not just a mindless villain who wants to murder everyone though. He seems to have a specific goal, and that makes for a more interesting story. If I were him I’d want to kill all the Sand Snakes but then I’d want to kill Euron and Cersei for beating me to it. |
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Post by Star on Apr 11, 2019 19:11:39 GMT -5
The actor who plays the Night King said this about his character in season 8: "People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is,” says Furdik. "There’s also that moment [in the fifth season episode Hardhome] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time." From this quote I am going to assume his target is not Jon... Or the actor would probably be spoiling it... kind off... Also, if Jon had been his target that would be stupid because he could easily have gone for Jon at Hardhome or Eastwatch. So who could it be? My guess would be Cersei. I mean, the wight they brought to King's Landing really seemed to want her, specifically, to die. But it could also be Dany because she represents his opposite (fire vs ice). Or Bran because he is clearly the most powerful person south of the Wall. Any thoughts? I am glad the Night King is not just a mindless villain who wants to murder everyone though. He seems to have a specific goal, and that makes for a more interesting story. Like you said, I really doubt Jon would be the target. Seeing him go after Cersei would be cool, but a little strange, unless the Night King really wants the Iron Throne. I also feel like it'd make things too easy to have everyone targeting her at this point. Dany presents an interesting option though and could really complicate the story. I think Bran might be sort of random for the Night King to go after (from a television standpoint), since he hasn't had the same attention given to him compared to the other three. Any single one or combination of those people makes for an interesting plot, but I think Dany would be the most intriguing. I'm just hoping this is true and the White Walkers aren't some form of pure evil. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 4:58:18 GMT -5
The actor who plays the Night King said this about his character in season 8: "People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is,” says Furdik. "There’s also that moment [in the fifth season episode Hardhome] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time." From this quote I am going to assume his target is not Jon... Or the actor would probably be spoiling it... kind off... Also, if Jon had been his target that would be stupid because he could easily have gone for Jon at Hardhome or Eastwatch. So who could it be? My guess would be Cersei. I mean, the wight they brought to King's Landing really seemed to want her, specifically, to die. But it could also be Dany because she represents his opposite (fire vs ice). Or Bran because he is clearly the most powerful person south of the Wall. Any thoughts? I am glad the Night King is not just a mindless villain who wants to murder everyone though. He seems to have a specific goal, and that makes for a more interesting story. Like you said, I really doubt Jon would be the target. Seeing him go after Cersei would be cool, but a little strange, unless the Night King really wants the Iron Throne. I also feel like it'd make things too easy to have everyone targeting her at this point. Dany presents an interesting option though and could really complicate the story. I think Bran might be sort of random for the Night King to go after (from a television standpoint), since he hasn't had the same attention given to him compared to the other three. Any single one or combination of those people makes for an interesting plot, but I think Dany would be the most intriguing. I'm just hoping this is true and the White Walkers aren't some form of pure evil. I don't think the Night King wants the Iron Throne... The Night King has magical powers, he likely has seen parts of the future. IF he is coming for Cersei he most likely know that Cersei will do something VERY bad and has to be stopped. Maybe the Night King is secretly a hero. I have to admit I don't know what that would be. Blowing up King's Landing would probably not be important enough for the Night King to finally make it south. Still the way the wight went right for her is suspicious... If Dany was their target why did the wight ignore her? Bran would not be too random, especially not from a book-perspective. The story starts with Bran, he is clearly a very important character. And as the three-eyed raven he is probably the greatest threat to the Night King. Or maybe Bran will do something that leads to the creation of the Night King in the first place (similar to Hodor) and the Night King wants to prevent that. Dany would be interesting. But I am really hoping that Dany actually goes full mad queen if that is the case so the Night King can actually be the good guy. I know this is probably not going to happen but it would be pretty epic if the final battle of the series was Jon and the Night King fighting side-by-side against Dany. But that seems too random and unlikely. It is all fine by me as long as the Night King's goal is not just "kill everything" or something simple like that. I am still hoping for the White Walkers to secretly not be evil at all. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 5:02:03 GMT -5
The actor who plays the Night King said this about his character in season 8: "People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is,” says Furdik. "There’s also that moment [in the fifth season episode Hardhome] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time." From this quote I am going to assume his target is not Jon... Or the actor would probably be spoiling it... kind off... Also, if Jon had been his target that would be stupid because he could easily have gone for Jon at Hardhome or Eastwatch. So who could it be? My guess would be Cersei. I mean, the wight they brought to King's Landing really seemed to want her, specifically, to die. But it could also be Dany because she represents his opposite (fire vs ice). Or Bran because he is clearly the most powerful person south of the Wall. Any thoughts? I am glad the Night King is not just a mindless villain who wants to murder everyone though. He seems to have a specific goal, and that makes for a more interesting story. If I were him I’d want to kill all the Sand Snakes but then I’d want to kill Euron and Cersei for beating me to it. You've got it all wrong. His real target is Hot Pie, of course. The Night King also wants a bite of one of those delicious direwolf breads. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 12, 2019 9:01:27 GMT -5
If I were him I’d want to kill all the Sand Snakes but then I’d want to kill Euron and Cersei for beating me to it. You've got it all wrong. His real target is Hot Pie, of course. The Night King also wants a bite of one of those delicious direwolf breads. Eh he might want them though dragon shaped. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 12, 2019 9:02:47 GMT -5
Do you guys think we’ll see spiders big as hounds?
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 12, 2019 11:46:46 GMT -5
Tbh I didn't even think the Night King was intelligent...... Just felt like some icy asshole that wanted to kill everyone but I guess there must be more to him.
Honestly I feel like 6 episodes won't be enough...
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 12, 2019 12:18:31 GMT -5
I feel like the shortened seasons might be less of a story decision than a production decision.
Season 7 definitely felt like 10 crammed into 7.
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Post by Potato on Apr 12, 2019 12:28:37 GMT -5
I feel like the shortened seasons might be less of a story decision than a production decision. Season 7 definitely felt like 10 crammed into 7. I heard HBO wanted them to go to like 10 seasons, but the show runners seemed pretty burnt out and wanted to move on to other things. But yeah, I don't think it's a story decision. Season 7 should have been 10 episodes and Season 8 will almost definitely be better with more than 6. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 12, 2019 12:31:52 GMT -5
I feel like the shortened seasons might be less of a story decision than a production decision. Season 7 definitely felt like 10 crammed into 7. I heard HBO wanted them to go to like 10 seasons, but the show runners seemed pretty burnt out and wanted to move on to other things. But yeah, I don't think it's a story decision. Season 7 should have been 10 episodes and Season 8 will almost definitely be better with more than 6. That’s really too bad. Same thing happened with Boardwalk Empire where the show runner got bored and rushed the ending. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 12:53:35 GMT -5
Tbh I didn't even think the Night King was intelligent...... Just felt like some icy asshole that wanted to kill everyone but I guess there must be more to him. Honestly I feel like 6 episodes won't be enough... He is definitely intelligent. He has shown this in several scenes when he interacted with Jon and Bran. He is actually capable of planning as well. Also in the books I believe the White Walkers actually have their own language which sounds like cracking ice. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 12:56:58 GMT -5
Yeah, 6 episodes definitely won't be enough. When it was rumored each episode would be around 90 minutes I had some hope... but the first is 60 minutes... and the longest only goes up to 80 I think.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 12, 2019 14:40:55 GMT -5
I still regularly listen to this track... It excellent. The music basically tells the story on its own.
Game of Thrones has great music in general. Hope the composer stays for the prequel series.
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 