Game of Thrones

Part of me could almost see Baelish being like Saruman in the ROTK book. Baelish takes over the Iron Throne following the chaos of Cersei's death and the Great War with the White Walkers. Once the living prevail, they look south again, but find that Baelish has established himself as ruler of Westeros and possesses a steady following already (maybe his claim to power could be supported through a marriage or something). Rather than waging war in Kings Landing, they have to find a way to hold a trial of sorts to dethrone Baelish. In the end, Baelish's lust for power finally causes him to underestimate his enemies and overestimate his abilities, leading to his removal from power and eventual execution. Even if they chose to exile him, I feel like Arya or somebody would choose to murder him instead.


I know that's too much to include in the show, but it would be cool to see Baelish actually succeed with his ultimate goals, since he was so powerful and influential.

Well that was the first scene they for him this season. They might not have had the specifics down...

I guess he likely assumed Jon would die in BOTB (he doesn't know about plot armor) so he could easily influence Sansa. Obviously, he had no idea about Bran or Arya.

He did talk with Cersei about cleaning up the Boltons and becoming Warden and he presumedly had planned to finish off whoever won between Roose and Stannis. Maybe this got fucked because Stannis barely weakened the Boltons with his attack.

Also in Season 6, if he had shown up later than he did, he could have executed this same strategy and taken over Winterfell.

But he had plans before Jon even left the Night's Watch. His plan would not even have worked if Jon had not been allowed to leave the Wall. Sansa would have escaped with Theon... and LF would have been left with nothing.

I rewatched some of Season 7. It isn’t bad like TWD now or anything but idk it just feels like it could’ve been a lot more. I had my problems with Season 5 and Season 6 too but the last few episodes of both those seasons (and Season 2 imho) more than made up for it. The last two episodes of Season 7 just didn’t really grab me so the season as a whole just didn’t feel that strong.

I sort of see where you're coming from, but honestly, there was already a lot happening in S7 both in terms of action, dialogue between characters, and so on. For me, it was a little jarring how the pacing felt more inconsistent on the whole throughout the season versus past ones. Previous seasons had more deliberate buildups, but in this one, there was so much content to cover that it didn't have the luxury of time to unfold in that manner.

The "predictability" of events didn't bother me that much, since at this point in the show, things should be wrapping up with only a few twists left (unless the show decides to abandon a traditional storyline ending). I somewhat agree that the final episodes didn't progress the overall plot as much as I had expected, but it instead focused on bridging characters and stories together to help prepare the stage for S8's execution of the final events. So maybe it fell short for you because you already had a better sense of what to expect and not quite as much happened in the end compared to other seasons.

It had a really good budget at least... those Dragons look better than most movie effects.

They said that zombie bear was one of the most expensive things they ever did, they actually wanted to have one in earlier seasons but they couldn't afford it. If it is that expensive was this really the best use of money? The zombie bear added very little to the story.

At least that means it'll probably be in April. That's better than waiting until July like S7.

I consider doing a GOT rewatch too before the final season. If anyone wants to join that let me know. I probably won't start until like December though, will just do 3-4 episodes a week.

Yeah... It's a pity my favorite shows both get a final "season" in 2019. I probably have plenty of time to do the rewatch given the fact that I might find myself in between studies form January to September... but I guess most people don't want to rewatch both.

Well, didn't you just watch GOT? For me season 1-4 were about 4 years ago... and I never did a rewatch, so I guess the need to me to rewatch it greater than it is for you. I think they said a lot of the small elements from early seasons will be relevant in the final one.

It's 67 episodes, so if you started now, you'd finish around March 2019 if you stuck to two episodes a week. It's manageable, but not sure I'd personally keep up with it.