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Post by Pinda on Jun 19, 2018 18:42:58 GMT -5
Six seasons down, one left before I'm caught up. The final two episodes of season 6 were among the best of the show for me. My ratings of the first six seasons would be something like this: 1. Season 4 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion's trial, Purple Wedding, Mountain vs Viper, Watchers on the Wall 2. Season 3 --> Favorite moments: Red Wedding, Jamie and Brienne, Ygritte and Jon 3. Season 6 --> Favorite moments: "Hold the door", Bastards, Winds of Winter 4. Season 1 --> Favorite moments: Baelor, Viserys death, great character intros/ development 5. Season 2 --> Favorite moments: Blackwater, Arya and Tywin, Tyrion as Hand of the King 6. Season 5 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion in Essos, Hardhome, Mereen fighting pit scene, walk of atonement All the seasons are good, but I think seasons 3-4 are definitely the best. Although season 6 had a few slower episodes and covered a lot, it's high moments are more than enough to make it a great season. Season 1 is smaller in scale, but I really like what it gave us. There are some great scenes in season 2, but it doesn't stand out to me as the best the series has to offer. I don't dislike season 5 as much as I've heard others complain about it, but I feel that some of the plot lines were too messy and there weren't enough stand-out moments. Season 3 and 4 were definitely the best. And season 5 was fine too. I think the weakest season, by far is season 7 unfortunately. It had good moment and good special effects, but everything is rushed and the plot makes no sense at times. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 19, 2018 19:58:31 GMT -5
Six seasons down, one left before I'm caught up. The final two episodes of season 6 were among the best of the show for me. My ratings of the first six seasons would be something like this: 1. Season 4 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion's trial, Purple Wedding, Mountain vs Viper, Watchers on the Wall 2. Season 3 --> Favorite moments: Red Wedding, Jamie and Brienne, Ygritte and Jon 3. Season 6 --> Favorite moments: "Hold the door", Bastards, Winds of Winter 4. Season 1 --> Favorite moments: Baelor, Viserys death, great character intros/ development 5. Season 2 --> Favorite moments: Blackwater, Arya and Tywin, Tyrion as Hand of the King 6. Season 5 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion in Essos, Hardhome, Mereen fighting pit scene, walk of atonement All the seasons are good, but I think seasons 3-4 are definitely the best. Although season 6 had a few slower episodes and covered a lot, it's high moments are more than enough to make it a great season. Season 1 is smaller in scale, but I really like what it gave us. There are some great scenes in season 2, but it doesn't stand out to me as the best the series has to offer. I don't dislike season 5 as much as I've heard others complain about it, but I feel that some of the plot lines were too messy and there weren't enough stand-out moments. Same except I’d probably switch 2 and 5. People were disappointed with S5 but to me it felt like the most focused of the whole show. Dorne was weak but everything else was good. S2 just doesn’t hold up well after S1 and there’s a reason a lot that when a lot of people give up. Tyrion is good. Theon is good. But everything else is just okay. They seem to bet everything on Episode 9. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 19, 2018 19:59:07 GMT -5
Six seasons down, one left before I'm caught up. The final two episodes of season 6 were among the best of the show for me. My ratings of the first six seasons would be something like this: 1. Season 4 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion's trial, Purple Wedding, Mountain vs Viper, Watchers on the Wall 2. Season 3 --> Favorite moments: Red Wedding, Jamie and Brienne, Ygritte and Jon 3. Season 6 --> Favorite moments: "Hold the door", Bastards, Winds of Winter 4. Season 1 --> Favorite moments: Baelor, Viserys death, great character intros/ development 5. Season 2 --> Favorite moments: Blackwater, Arya and Tywin, Tyrion as Hand of the King 6. Season 5 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion in Essos, Hardhome, Mereen fighting pit scene, walk of atonement All the seasons are good, but I think seasons 3-4 are definitely the best. Although season 6 had a few slower episodes and covered a lot, it's high moments are more than enough to make it a great season. Season 1 is smaller in scale, but I really like what it gave us. There are some great scenes in season 2, but it doesn't stand out to me as the best the series has to offer. I don't dislike season 5 as much as I've heard others complain about it, but I feel that some of the plot lines were too messy and there weren't enough stand-out moments. Season 3 and 4 were definitely the best. And season 5 was fine too. I think the weakest season, by far is season 7 unfortunately. It had good moment and good special effects, but everything is rushed and the plot makes no sense at times. Shh don’t ruin the surprise...  |
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Post by Star on Jun 19, 2018 20:40:17 GMT -5
Six seasons down, one left before I'm caught up. The final two episodes of season 6 were among the best of the show for me. My ratings of the first six seasons would be something like this: 1. Season 4 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion's trial, Purple Wedding, Mountain vs Viper, Watchers on the Wall 2. Season 3 --> Favorite moments: Red Wedding, Jamie and Brienne, Ygritte and Jon 3. Season 6 --> Favorite moments: "Hold the door", Bastards, Winds of Winter 4. Season 1 --> Favorite moments: Baelor, Viserys death, great character intros/ development 5. Season 2 --> Favorite moments: Blackwater, Arya and Tywin, Tyrion as Hand of the King 6. Season 5 --> Favorite moments: Tyrion in Essos, Hardhome, Mereen fighting pit scene, walk of atonement All the seasons are good, but I think seasons 3-4 are definitely the best. Although season 6 had a few slower episodes and covered a lot, it's high moments are more than enough to make it a great season. Season 1 is smaller in scale, but I really like what it gave us. There are some great scenes in season 2, but it doesn't stand out to me as the best the series has to offer. I don't dislike season 5 as much as I've heard others complain about it, but I feel that some of the plot lines were too messy and there weren't enough stand-out moments. Same except I’d probably switch 2 and 5. People were disappointed with S5 but to me it felt like the most focused of the whole show. Dorne was weak but everything else was good. S2 just doesn’t hold up well after S1 and there’s a reason a lot that when a lot of people give up. Tyrion is good. Theon is good. But everything else is just okay. They seem to bet everything on Episode 9. Seasons 2 and 5 are pretty close for me. I think that following the excellence of seasons 3-4, season 5 had a lot to live up to, but it just couldn't quite match them overall. As a result, it makes people judge it harsher than they should. I wasn't a fan of Arya in Braavos either. The whole time I thought it would lead to something bigger, even as it continued into season 6. I suppose her murder of Walder Frey made it a little less pointless, but it's hardly enough to justify all the time spent there. At least they chose to ignore Bran in season 5 and only have him appear in season 6 when his story become really good. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 20, 2018 16:17:46 GMT -5
“Those fuckers are about to swamp us!”
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2018 20:06:06 GMT -5
Kinda depressing to say it but S7 killed a lot of the hype I had for this show. I hope it redeems itself but I just kinda felt like meh when S7 was over.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2018 20:15:57 GMT -5
I think the problem is GOT ran out of characters to kill. The show left out a lot of non-essential characters, so we are left with characters that need to make it to season 8. No surprise deaths. Season 7 was overall pretty bad and rushed. But that one battle scene was my favorite in the series. Even though deaths are a big part of GOT, I don’t think they’re necessary for drama. IMO the show became too reliant on deaths to keep audience investment. People became comfortable in Season 7 that their favorite characters would make it out alive, just like they thought in Season 1. Difference is, they’re right every time now. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 24, 2018 20:23:13 GMT -5
I think the problem is GOT ran out of characters to kill. The show left out a lot of non-essential characters, so we are left with characters that need to make it to season 8. No surprise deaths. Season 7 was overall pretty bad and rushed. But that one battle scene was my favorite in the series. Even though deaths are a big part of GOT, I don’t think they’re necessary for drama. IMO the show became too reliant on deaths to keep audience investment. People became comfortable in Season 7 that their favorite characters would make it out alive, just like they thought in Season 1. Difference is, they’re right every time now. Well that was the main excitement about GOT. Everyone could die. Of course, by season 4 we realized a few characters would probably stick around to the end. But still, it made GOT feel more realistic. Also I think the plot is probably still unpredictable to casual fans. But I don't think I am a casual anymore like I was when I watched season 1-4. I have read the books, I hang out on the GOT subreddit, so I see the twists coming. But casual fans were probably surprised by things like Jon's parentage. While the books and internet make it kind of obvious. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 24, 2018 20:27:06 GMT -5
Even though deaths are a big part of GOT, I don’t think they’re necessary for drama. IMO the show became too reliant on deaths to keep audience investment. People became comfortable in Season 7 that their favorite characters would make it out alive, just like they thought in Season 1. Difference is, they’re right every time now. Well that was the main excitement about GOT. Everyone could die. Of course, by season 4 we realized a few characters would probably stick around to the end. But still, it made GOT feel more realistic. Also I think the plot is probably still unpredictable to casual fans. But I don't think I am a casual anymore like I was when I watched season 1-4. I have read the books, I hang out on the GOT subreddit, so I see the twists coming. But casual fans were probably surprised by things like Jon's parentage. While the books and internet make it kind of obvious. There’s a YT series I watch where a guy who’s never seen the show before tries to figure out what’s going on. He watches the show in random order now but he started with S7E3 when it aired and saw the rest of the season. I found it hilarious how easy it was for him to keep up with and fully understand Season 7 aside from the occasional bad writing like Littlefinger’s death. It just feels kinda watered down, at least compared to the rest of the show. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2018 0:42:41 GMT -5
New poll... basically who do you think will survive or come out ahead in season 8? Limited to 7 answers not only because we know many will die but it's less boring having to choose who will live instead of saying only 2 guys die
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2018 0:53:46 GMT -5
My answers:
Jon Snow: I feel like Daenerys is too obvious to be the big winner and Jon has already died... actually he's died and there's other times he really should have died. Haven't they had enough chances to kill him already? Unless they are really just making this Potato Rules up on the spot...
Sansa Stark: I think she's the most likely Stark to live, Arya's storyline and training should conclude to some kind of combat purpose. Although Sansa's story is all political. However I could see Arya going back across the sea to rebuild that Assassin order or something. Be like the head assassin guy. But for Sansa with Jon being revealed not be of Stark blood Sansa can fulfill her role as the Queen in the North. I thought it was obvious she liked her time ruling the North and she was decent at it. Maybe a hint for what would come.
Tyrion Lannister: Can't see them having the heart to kill him off, his siblings will die but he will be the last Lannister left to rebuild his house. Cersei and Jaime will die together I think.
Varys: This sleezeball will have a more filling conclusion then Littlefinger and will make it to the end and likely go serve Tyrion IMO.
The Hound: He will be a winner solely because he will best and kill his brother in combat but I do not expect The Hound to survive the season.
Gendry: He's the outside possibility of becoming king tbh... but I think he will survive either way and rebuild house Baratheon.
Samwell Tarly: He will survive and rebuild his house as well.
I kept guys like Bronn and Brienne off this list so I don't think either have major impact on the story or anything.... and they are probably just gonna be filler deaths that will be attempted to be passed off as bigger then they are.
I do think Bran might survive though although I also could see him sacrificing himself to go alter events in the past or soemthing that might kill him aka Luke Skywalker TLJ Potato Rules... I think there's an outside shot Jaime survives too because they had a perfect opportunity to kill him already
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2018 1:00:52 GMT -5
Hmm I probably should have ha Euron Greyjoy on the list but let's be honest that guy is a moron and is probably a given death.
But yeah feel free to mention guys not on the list in your reasoning if you want
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Post by Pinda on Jun 25, 2018 3:45:57 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 25, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -5
Hmm I probably should have ha Euron Greyjoy on the list but let's be honest that guy is a moron and is probably a given death. But yeah feel free to mention guys not on the list in your reasoning if you want GIVE YOUR UNCLE A KISS |
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Post by Star on Jun 25, 2018 18:23:38 GMT -5
Finished S7. I didn't find it was as bad as some of you thought. There were some moments that were questionable, such as the passage of time in Beyond the Wall, but nothing overly awful for me. I did think the plot was rushed at times, but that's to be expected with a seven episode season that has so many things to cover. However, there was a lot of payoff through the buildup of the previous seasons, and that definitely helps improve it.
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Post by Star on Jun 25, 2018 18:29:36 GMT -5
I think they managed to salvage Baelish's plot with his death in the finale, but I'm disappointed at how the writers treated him after S4. I always liked him the most among the small council members of King Robert. His presence on-screen kept me engaged, he had a darker side to him compared to Varys, and you really could see how well (and successfully for the most part) he planned out events.
From what I've read online, the books give him a more interesting story when he leaves for the Vale, so hopefully GRRM keeps his story strong. I really like how Baelish is a major player behind all the major events in ASOIAF.
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2018 14:20:21 GMT -5
I think they managed to salvage Baelish's plot with his death in the finale, but I'm disappointed at how the writers treated him after S4. I always liked him the most among the small council members of King Robert. His presence on-screen kept me engaged, he had a darker side to him compared to Varys, and you really could see how well (and successfully for the most part) he planned out events. From what I've read online, the books give him a more interesting story when he leaves for the Vale, so hopefully GRRM keeps his story strong. I really like how Baelish is a major player behind all the major events in ASOIAF. I think Littlefinger was poorly portrayed the past few seasons. It just seemed like the writers didn't know what to do with him. |
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Post by Star on Jun 26, 2018 14:47:14 GMT -5
I think they managed to salvage Baelish's plot with his death in the finale, but I'm disappointed at how the writers treated him after S4. I always liked him the most among the small council members of King Robert. His presence on-screen kept me engaged, he had a darker side to him compared to Varys, and you really could see how well (and successfully for the most part) he planned out events. From what I've read online, the books give him a more interesting story when he leaves for the Vale, so hopefully GRRM keeps his story strong. I really like how Baelish is a major player behind all the major events in ASOIAF. I think Littlefinger was poorly portrayed the past few seasons. It just seemed like the writers didn't know what to do with him. I'm guessing GRRM didn't give the writers detailed guidance about his future, which is partly why Baelish's story was weaker in recent seasons. On top of that, there were a lot of other plots that needed more attention, so without a clear idea for his character, they kind of pushed him into the background and simplified him. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2018 14:57:05 GMT -5
I think Littlefinger was poorly portrayed the past few seasons. It just seemed like the writers didn't know what to do with him. I'm guessing GRRM didn't give the writers detailed guidance about his future, which is partly why Baelish's story was weaker in recent seasons. On top of that, there were a lot of other plots that needed more attention, so without a clear idea for his character, they kind of pushed him into the background and simplified him. I think in the books he's apparently like the most powerful character or something influence wise and his story is a lot different. |
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Post by Star on Jun 26, 2018 15:08:33 GMT -5
I'm guessing GRRM didn't give the writers detailed guidance about his future, which is partly why Baelish's story was weaker in recent seasons. On top of that, there were a lot of other plots that needed more attention, so without a clear idea for his character, they kind of pushed him into the background and simplified him. I think in the books he's apparently like the most powerful character or something influence wise and his story is a lot different. His whole plot with the Vale and marrying Sansa are different in the books. I think there's a lot more backstory with him too that the show chose to cut. I get that he's not a POV character in the novels or central to the main conflicts in the show, but I personally would've liked to have seen more with him, given how influential and powerful he is. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2018 15:11:09 GMT -5
I think in the books he's apparently like the most powerful character or something influence wise and his story is a lot different. His whole plot with the Vale and marrying Sansa are different in the books. I think there's a lot more backstory with him too that the show chose to cut. I get that he's not a POV character in the novels or central to the main conflicts in the show, but I personally would've liked to have seen more with him, given how influential and powerful he is. Yeah he was a dark horse to be a game changer in the first 3 seasons and then he just kinda goes off a cliff. At least Varys has been handled better |
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Post by Star on Jun 26, 2018 15:22:45 GMT -5
His whole plot with the Vale and marrying Sansa are different in the books. I think there's a lot more backstory with him too that the show chose to cut. I get that he's not a POV character in the novels or central to the main conflicts in the show, but I personally would've liked to have seen more with him, given how influential and powerful he is. Yeah he was a dark horse to be a game changer in the first 3 seasons and then he just kinda goes off a cliff. At least Varys has been handled better Part of me would have liked to have seen Baelish get even closer to winning the throne, or perhaps even sitting on it briefly (maybe in the chaos following Cersei's potential death). He basically set most of the crucial events post-Mad King in motion. Maybe the books will elaborate more on Baelish. Even though he's a corrupt character, I still really liked him. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 26, 2018 15:59:51 GMT -5
Whatever the fuck happened to Littlwfinger’s plan to be named Warden of the North?
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2018 16:07:43 GMT -5
I don't mind how Littlefinger was bested by Bran. It made sense, he was always ahead of everyone, but Bran is basically omnipotent, so he could not deal with that. I also liked how his facade of confidence broke at the end.
But what I do mind is that we never really got to explore his plan. He acted like he had some grand plan to become king... But how was he even planning to do that? We have no clue.
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Post by Star on Jun 26, 2018 16:23:00 GMT -5
I don't mind how Littlefinger was bested by Bran. It made sense, he was always ahead of everyone, but Bran is basically omnipotent, so he could not deal with that. I also liked how his facade of confidence broke at the end. But what I do mind is that we never really got to explore his plan. He acted like he had some grand plan to become king... But how was he even planning to do that? We have no clue. Baelish's death was fine, since being bested by the Three-Eyed Raven showed just how difficult it was to undermine him. But I completely agree that it was disappointing to not gain more insight toward his ultimate goals and how he would accomplish them. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 26, 2018 16:25:21 GMT -5
I think he could have gotten out of it tho. I mean yes we know Bran was correct but I don’t know why the Northern Lords would take his words as fact.
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Post by Star on Jun 26, 2018 16:27:19 GMT -5
I think he could have gotten out of it tho. I mean yes we know Bran was correct but I don’t know why the Northern Lords would take his words as fact. Sansa was backing up Bran, so I think the Northern Lords would follow her orders. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 26, 2018 16:31:54 GMT -5
I think he could have gotten out of it tho. I mean yes we know Bran was correct but I don’t know why the Northern Lords would take his words as fact. Sansa was backing up Bran, so I think the Northern Lords would follow her orders. I still think he could talk his way out of it. He just kind of breaks down and starts begging, which was the dumbest possible course of action. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2018 16:34:58 GMT -5
I think he could have gotten out of it tho. I mean yes we know Bran was correct but I don’t know why the Northern Lords would take his words as fact. Most of the Northern lords are very loyal to the Starks. Bran is a Stark, Littlefinger is not. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2018 16:37:16 GMT -5
Sansa was backing up Bran, so I think the Northern Lords would follow her orders. I still think he could talk his way out of it. He just kind of breaks down and starts begging, which was the dumbest possible course of action. I don't think so. LF is smart enough to know he was not getting out alive through more deception. He knows how Sansa is, he made her what she is. He also knows Arya is a very dangerous assassin and Bran is all-knowing. His only hope was that the lords of the Vale would stay loyal to him, but they didn't, so he had no choice but to beg. |
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 