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Oct 24, 2015 15:48:25 GMT -5
Post by Star on Oct 24, 2015 15:48:25 GMT -5
Here's a question: Some early explorers felt it was their duty to spread their religion around the world. Because of their religious zeal, however, many native peoples died and several civilizations were destroyed. Were the actions of these European explorers justified or no? Also, religious zeal was sometimes an excuse for the real motives of certain explorers as shown in the phrase "God, glory, and gold". The strong prevailed and the weak failed... This is the cycle of life. Basically like the food chain, in this case the Europeans and their ships, guns, etc where at the top and the Natives where at the bottom. But I would not say the European colonization was based on religious means (that came after) it was because they desired to expand and find more resources to improve themselves. Europeans took an interest in Canada for its vast amount of furs and later other resources such as Gold, Diamonds, Coal, etc the European priority was not in religion. The Spanish where the main religious people of the Europeans. The English and French not so much Well, the diseases brought by the Europeans killed more of the natives than any of their weapons. The Europeans had just become used to sicknesses like smallpox and measles unlike the natives, which had never been exposed to it. You're right though, religion wasn't the biggest reason for most of the countries besides Spain. Instead it was mainly for resources, slaves, and bullion. Religion was only a part of the motivation that made the Europeans think to an extent that what they were doing was justified.
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Oct 24, 2015 16:47:55 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Oct 24, 2015 16:47:55 GMT -5
The strong prevailed and the weak failed... This is the cycle of life. Basically like the food chain, in this case the Europeans and their ships, guns, etc where at the top and the Natives where at the bottom. But I would not say the European colonization was based on religious means (that came after) it was because they desired to expand and find more resources to improve themselves. Europeans took an interest in Canada for its vast amount of furs and later other resources such as Gold, Diamonds, Coal, etc the European priority was not in religion. The Spanish where the main religious people of the Europeans. The English and French not so much Well, the diseases brought by the Europeans killed more of the natives than any of their weapons. The Europeans had just become used to sicknesses like smallpox and measles unlike the natives, which had never been exposed to it. You're right though, religion wasn't the biggest reason for most of the countries besides Spain. Instead it was mainly for resources, slaves, and bullion. Religion was only a part of the motivation that made the Europeans think to an extent that what they were doing was justified. It was justified, they had every right to expand.
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Oct 24, 2015 17:55:58 GMT -5
Post by bobafett590 on Oct 24, 2015 17:55:58 GMT -5
Here's a question: Some early explorers felt it was their duty to spread their religion around the world. Because of their religious zeal, however, many native peoples died and several civilizations were destroyed. Were the actions of these European explorers justified or no? Also, religious zeal was sometimes an excuse for the real motives of certain explorers as shown in the phrase "God, glory, and gold". Religion wasn't the main reason for colonialism . Other, more major, reasons for colonialism were: - Financial gain: Acquiring resources that were not available at home to fuel industrialisation & acquiring raw materials to sell. - Prestige: If everyone has a colony except you people may start to question your status in the world. - Strategic reasons: Planting your flag on islands and regions that are situated near your rivals colonies would allow you a springboard on which to attack them in war. - Cause they could: If you had an opportunity to expand your territory massively why wouldn't you? Many European nations colonised because they had both the means and the opportunity to colonise places and saw no reason not to. - Living space: Some places were colonised because they seemed like nice places to live and to set up communities. Another reason that applied to some (but not all or a majority of) colonialists: - Cause they were evil: A few select people like Leopold II colonised for the sake of brutalising and oppressing the natives. They didn't care about religion and spreading of culture. They just wanted to take things and if they thought it necessary, commit atrocities to make their point. In the case of Leopold, people around the world were so shocked by the way he treated the natives he was actually forced to relinquish control of his colony in Congo. I think it is also important to note that the destruction of native civilizations were caused by disease as well as European aggression. And in some instances natives worked with Europeans to get revenge on other native tribes/civilizations that they despised. For example, the Spanish had considerable support from tribes that hitherto were being terrorised by the Aztecs to defeat them. As to whether it was justified or not it depends on what way you look at it and the way you think colonialism changed the world. I think Europeans and other nations had a right to act in their own interests (ie. To act to retain their position in the world) but I don't think it should have been done at the expense of so many people's lives and with such brutality. Colonialism wasn't all bad or all good but I think that in some ways it changed the world for the better and helped it move forward. Because whether people like to admit it or not the Western countries did establish law and order to places that were once lawless and tribal. Either way I think people need to move on from colonialism . For too long has this topic been used by white-guilt promoting race-baiters to justify hating the Western world. Here and now is what matters. . (Replace Romans with Europeans or Westerners ). . It fits this topic so well.
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Nov 29, 2015 14:23:43 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Nov 29, 2015 14:23:43 GMT -5
So yeah when I was in Newfoundland my family told me a lot about our history (some of which I already knew). But seems my family had a decent impact on the Provinces history, couple of them where Bounty Hunters who worked towards wiping out the Beothuk natives, ironically they housed the last one and kept her as a servant till she died of natural causes. Then his son was apart of the government and everything. There’s also a mountain named after some of my ancestors I wonder if it’s for the politician or for the bounty hunters lol… Anyways some of them are on Wikipedia and some other Canadian heritage sits. But yeah just wondering does anyone have any cool stuff they know about there family history? Well, to get back to this subject we just found a family tree some guy created for my family and apparently I directly descend from Clovis I. I guess plenty of people might descend from him, but still, it's a direct connection. Time to claim France...
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Post by Pinda on Dec 4, 2015 8:56:53 GMT -5
The anthem of the German Reich sounds familiar...
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Post by Pinda on Mar 20, 2016 9:05:15 GMT -5
So I had to interview someone for a history assignment, and the family of the person I interviewed was apparently part of the elite in Iraq... Some of his family worked in the palace of Sadam Hussein, he said he even saw Hussein in person several times and talked to Hussein's family members. He also says he saw Iraq's nuclear weapons... Seems like I found a very interesting person...
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Mar 20, 2016 9:18:29 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Mar 20, 2016 9:18:29 GMT -5
I should add that this person fled for the Iraq government because they had some of his family executed and he does/did in no way support Sadam Hussein.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:09:09 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Mar 20, 2016 11:09:09 GMT -5
So I had to interview someone for a history assignment, and the family of the person I interviewed was apparently part of the elite in Iraq... Some of his family worked in the palace of Sadam Hussein, he said he even saw Hussein in person several times and talked to Hussein's family members. He also says he saw Iraq's nuclear weapons... Seems like I found a very interesting person... Failure to tell the United States government of this Intel on Nuclear Missles will result in this man and your imprisonment in relation to global terrorism!!
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Mar 20, 2016 11:23:22 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Mar 20, 2016 11:23:22 GMT -5
So I had to interview someone for a history assignment, and the family of the person I interviewed was apparently part of the elite in Iraq... Some of his family worked in the palace of Sadam Hussein, he said he even saw Hussein in person several times and talked to Hussein's family members. He also says he saw Iraq's nuclear weapons... Seems like I found a very interesting person... Failure to tell the United States government of this Intel on Nuclear Missles will result in this man and your imprisonment in relation to global terrorism!! Well. he arrived in the Netherlands 20 years ago. The information is no longer relevant. He only said he saw nuclear weapons, or thought he saw them though, not sure how much he actually knows. But before he was granted access to the Netherlands the Dutch police interrogated him and his family, not sure what he told them exactly.
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Mar 20, 2016 11:35:40 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Mar 20, 2016 11:35:40 GMT -5
Failure to tell the United States government of this Intel on Nuclear Missles will result in this man and your imprisonment in relation to global terrorism!! Well. he arrived in the Netherlands 20 years ago. The information is no longer relevant. He only said he saw nuclear weapons, or thought he saw them though, not sure how much he actually knows. But before he was granted access to the Netherlands the Dutch police interrogated him and his family, not sure what he told them exactly. Kind of curious how Europe didn't send him back given this information he might know and him possibly being seen as a threat
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Mar 20, 2016 12:08:33 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Mar 20, 2016 12:08:33 GMT -5
Well. he arrived in the Netherlands 20 years ago. The information is no longer relevant. He only said he saw nuclear weapons, or thought he saw them though, not sure how much he actually knows. But before he was granted access to the Netherlands the Dutch police interrogated him and his family, not sure what he told them exactly. Kind of curious how Europe didn't send him back given this information he might know and him possibly being seen as a threat Because he wasn't a threat? I don't see how having some information about the Iraq government would make him a threat. After the first Iraq War begun some of his family members were executed by the Iraq government because they had connections to the UN and they were a minority (both ethnic and religious). Obviously he did not like the Iraq government...
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Apr 11, 2016 16:49:05 GMT -5
Post by The Jawa Juicer on Apr 11, 2016 16:49:05 GMT -5
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Dec 5, 2016 13:21:22 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Dec 5, 2016 13:21:22 GMT -5
The stuff I have to study now is probably the most interesting I have ever had to study. It's about the end of the Cold War and the Paris Charter for a New Europe. It's really interesting how Gorbachev had an alternative vision for the European Integration project. He wanted to reform the European Conference of Security to a new united Europe, which included the Soviet-Union... Western Europe agreed to it, but then went behind his back to create the European Union, which excluded Russia. And that is apparently why a lot of Russians, including Putin, are against the EU and would love to see it collapse.
This is the only kind of history I care about. The kind that makes you understand the present.
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Dec 5, 2016 14:59:34 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Dec 5, 2016 14:59:34 GMT -5
The stuff I have to study now is probably the most interesting I have ever had to study. It's about the end of the Cold War and the Paris Charter for a New Europe. It's really interesting how Gorbachev had an alternative vision for the European Integration project. He wanted to reform the European Conference of Security to a new united Europe, which included the Soviet-Union... Western Europe agreed to it, but then went behind his back to create the European Union, which excluded Russia. And that is apparently why a lot of Russians, including Putin, are against the EU and would love to see it collapse. This is the only kind of history I care about. The kind that makes you understand the present. ALL History makes you understand the present though, it's all connected and explains how we got to the present.
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Dec 5, 2016 15:02:33 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Dec 5, 2016 15:02:33 GMT -5
Anyways got my history exam on Friday. It's basically 3 questions.
Part A is focused on Unit 3 only and the same format as Unit 1 and 2 tests, have to answer 2/5 questions provided.
Part B is an essay question for the entire course. 3 options, we got to pick 1
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Dec 5, 2016 15:08:37 GMT -5
Post by Pinda on Dec 5, 2016 15:08:37 GMT -5
The stuff I have to study now is probably the most interesting I have ever had to study. It's about the end of the Cold War and the Paris Charter for a New Europe. It's really interesting how Gorbachev had an alternative vision for the European Integration project. He wanted to reform the European Conference of Security to a new united Europe, which included the Soviet-Union... Western Europe agreed to it, but then went behind his back to create the European Union, which excluded Russia. And that is apparently why a lot of Russians, including Putin, are against the EU and would love to see it collapse. This is the only kind of history I care about. The kind that makes you understand the present. ALL History makes you understand the present though, it's all connected and explains how we got to the present. Yes, but some of it is more obvious and useful.
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Dec 5, 2016 15:17:22 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Dec 5, 2016 15:17:22 GMT -5
ALL History makes you understand the present though, it's all connected and explains how we got to the present. Yes, but some of it is more obvious and useful. The present is extremely boring and filled with incompetence IMO... will be interesting how they teach 1990-2016 in 100 years... stupid shit like Political drama and dumbass refugees are the highlights.
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Jul 21, 2017 20:27:33 GMT -5
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Post by squiggy on Jul 21, 2017 20:27:33 GMT -5
Don't ask me why I just thought of this but why did Germany declare war on the U.S in 1941 given they were already full with britain and the U.S.S.R? After pearl harbor why didn't Germany let the U.S and Japan settle disputes by themselves, what provoked Germany? I mean Japan and Germany were allies but still with two countries already after you.
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Post by Newan on Aug 1, 2018 1:54:51 GMT -5
Don't ask me why I just thought of this but why did Germany declare war on the U.S in 1941 given they were already full with britain and the U.S.S.R? After pearl harbor why didn't Germany let the U.S and Japan settle disputes by themselves, what provoked Germany? I mean Japan and Germany were allies but still with two countries already after you. Only a year late... but Germany declared war on the US for a couple reasons. The biggest reason was because Japan joined the "Axis" as we would call it in late 1940. Since Japan decided to attack the United States, Germany joined in as a show of good faith. There was always an idea that Japan and Germany would be able to meet up in the Middle East but Japan wasn't able to successfully get past India at any point in the war and for Germany that plan fell apart by late 1942 when the war in Africa became fairly one sided. Now for the second reason, although the USA was technically neutral before late 1941 they were however still trading with Britain and the US ports were being used by the allies for supplies. Germany attacking a neutral country wouldn't look good so by declaring war it makes the U-Boat campaign look a lot more official in the Atlantic. Japan never stood a chance against the United States, but the US attacking Japan was inevitable due to the Japanese goal of conquering the Pacific and the US at the time had quite a lot of interest in the area specifically in the Philipines which they owned. Japan figured a preemptive strike was their only possible chance, try and catch them off guard by taking out a large portion of their Pacific fleet specially the 3 aircraft carriers that were supposed to be stationed at Pearl Harbor. However none of those Aircraft carriers were present, one was away on a "supply run" and the others were away on "training excerises" because all of the aircraft carriers were coincidently absent at the time of the Japanese attack this has raised a question of conspiracy that the United States knew the attack would happen and allowed it to proceed to give them justification to enter the war as a means of defense rather then as an aggressor. The US had no real ties to the European countries by supporting a position of neutrality so they didn't have an obligation to enter the war in 1939. Germany didn't really want to fight the US, in fact Hitler respected them more then the Europeans for the most part but war with them was inevitable especially after Japan's first strike at Pearl Harbor and because looking at History the US likely would have joined mid ways through the war anyways similar to how they joined WW1 in 1917. If for no other reason they would have joined to be a deterrent to Russia most likely.
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Post by Newan on Aug 1, 2018 2:00:08 GMT -5
Anyways the real reason I came into this thread was because I wanted to mention that the Roman Empire series on Netflix is actually pretty good, new season about Julius Caesar just released and I personally really like the style of presentation for a documentary series. Also it's narrated by Sean Bean aka Ned Stark aka Boromir aka Civ 6 Narrator but the actors are pretty good as well. So far there's two seasons one about Julius which just released and one about Marcus Aurelius and his death/ transition of power to his son Commodus, which is basically the Gladiator movie but without the fictional aspects
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