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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:24:43 GMT -5
Why was he smiling when using his last resort then? Because he was proud of himself...? You tell me. Because he staged it. Or at least that has always been my interpretation. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:26:36 GMT -5
It's all the same at the moment in this discussion.... Otherwise î wouldn't have used EU characters in the past. And yeah nice excuse it wasn't no plan. Okay then I believe Boba wanted to fall in the Sarlac so people would think he's dead.... Does that sound realistic? All of these characters appeared in the movies or TCW. So there's no need to resort to using these exaggerated EU comics. No Boba is a EU based character. I wouldn't have had him in the duel at all otherwise if it was only movie stuff.... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:28:19 GMT -5
All of these characters appeared in the movies or TCW. So there's no need to resort to using these exaggerated EU comics. No Boba is a EU based character. I wouldn't have had him in the duel at all otherwise if it was only movie stuff.... Boba is a movie based character because he appeared in the movies. But if you consider the EU canon... do you consider the holiday special canon? |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:29:41 GMT -5
No Boba is a EU based character. I wouldn't have had him in the duel at all otherwise if it was only movie stuff.... Boba is a movie based character because he appeared in the movies. But if you consider the EU canon... do you consider the holiday special canon? That's not even really canon. And what does that have to do with anything? You took the worst possible example as the only thing you could think of? |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:29:48 GMT -5
The problem is, you can't really compare the EU to TCW/Movies. The EU is often exaggerated and popular characters are always overpowered. The movies and TCW are realistic and they show how these characters were supposed to be.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:30:43 GMT -5
Boba is a movie based character because he appeared in the movies. But if you consider the EU canon... do you consider the holiday special canon? That's not even really canon. And what does that have to do with anything? You took the worst possible example as the only thing you could think of? The Holiday special is just as canon as any other piece of the EU. They are exactly the same. I could also have mentioned Palpatine clones... those are almost as bad. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:31:25 GMT -5
The problem is, you can't really compare the EU to TCW/Movies. The EU is often exaggerated and popular characters are always overpowered. The movies and TCW are realistic and they show how these characters were supposed to be. I think next battle ill scratch the poll and use only EU then... |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:32:20 GMT -5
That's not even really canon. And what does that have to do with anything? You took the worst possible example as the only thing you could think of? The Holiday special is just as canon as any other piece of the EU. They are exactly the same. I could also have mentioned Palpatine clones... those are almost as bad. Not really that bad. Plapatine always wanted a way to cheat death. It kinda makes sense. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:32:55 GMT -5
The problem is, you can't really compare the EU to TCW/Movies. The EU is often exaggerated and popular characters are always overpowered. The movies and TCW are realistic and they show how these characters were supposed to be. I think next battle ill scratch the poll and use only EU then... Okay... my point is that the EU is kinda like this: While TCW and the movies are like this: They just aren't comparable. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 4, 2014 18:33:27 GMT -5
The Holiday special is just as canon as any other piece of the EU. They are exactly the same. I could also have mentioned Palpatine clones... those are almost as bad. Not really that bad. Plapatine always wanted a way to cheat death. It kinda makes sense. It's a bad excuse to bring back Palpatine. Besides it makes the prophecy pointless. |
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Post by bane on Apr 4, 2014 18:36:50 GMT -5
No Boba is a EU based character. I wouldn't have had him in the duel at all otherwise if it was only movie stuff.... Boba is a movie based character because he appeared in the movies. But if you consider the EU canon... do you consider the holiday special canon? The point Newan is making is that Bane is a character totally in the clone wars, with a lot of screen time. Boba, however, makes a very small appearance in the movies, and is grounded in the EU. You seem to be saying thst because Boba didn't do much in the Movies, he's somehow a bad bounty hunter. But if you read books with him in them, you'll definitely know that's not true. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:37:36 GMT -5
Not really that bad. Plapatine always wanted a way to cheat death. It kinda makes sense. It's a bad excuse to bring back Palpatine. Besides it makes the prophecy pointless. It was pointless and stupid. Who made such a dumb prophecy in the first place? |
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Post by bane on Apr 4, 2014 18:38:37 GMT -5
I think next battle ill scratch the poll and use only EU then... Okay... my point is that the EU is kinda like this: While TCW and the movies are like this: They just aren't comparable. Star Wars literature and some sort of old Star Wars cartoon are not the same. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 4, 2014 18:40:02 GMT -5
Okay... my point is that the EU is kinda like this: While TCW and the movies are like this: They just aren't comparable. Star Wars literature and some sort of old Star Wars cartoon are not the same. Yes death by amblibical cord is much better............... |
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Post by Newan on Apr 4, 2014 18:42:37 GMT -5
The mini series was made for 6 year old kids that would keep them interested with the little action in the first 2 movies.
And TCW was so biased towards the heroes. They need the bad guys to win sometimes in a fight. Really judging how most of the episodes went the republic should have won in a year if it wasn't for the Jedi holding them back.
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Post by Namialus on Apr 4, 2014 19:45:22 GMT -5
The mini series was made for 6 year old kids that would keep them interested with the little action in the first 2 movies. And TCW was so biased towards the heroes. They need the bad guys to win sometimes in a fight. Really judging how most of the episodes went the republic should have won in a year if it wasn't for the Jedi holding them back. I don't think TCW showed even a quarter of the battles that were in the actual war. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 6:28:49 GMT -5
Okay... my point is that the EU is kinda like this: While TCW and the movies are like this: They just aren't comparable. Star Wars literature and some sort of old Star Wars cartoon are not the same. Much of the EU shares this level of overpowered characters though. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 6:30:49 GMT -5
The mini series was made for 6 year old kids that would keep them interested with the little action in the first 2 movies. And TCW was so biased towards the heroes. They need the bad guys to win sometimes in a fight. Really judging how most of the episodes went the republic should have won in a year if it wasn't for the Jedi holding them back. Most of the mini series's fans are actually a lot older. TCW was sometimes biased towards the heroes... but in many arcs the bad guys won especially in the later seasons. And remember the Republic was winning the war in ROTS, so obviously they were doing better. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 6:31:34 GMT -5
It's a bad excuse to bring back Palpatine. Besides it makes the prophecy pointless. It was pointless and stupid. Who made such a dumb prophecy in the first place? George Lucas probably, which makes it full canon. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:11:56 GMT -5
It was pointless and stupid. Who made such a dumb prophecy in the first place? George Lucas probably, which makes it full canon. The prophecy can never be true or full canon.... It only takes some force power and a lust for power to become evil.... You can't just say no one will ever become sith again. Especially when they tasked Luke to rebuild the order. And wouldn't balance mean keeping some evil and some good? Like how is it balanced when only one faction is left. Idk doesn't make sense at all. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:13:07 GMT -5
The mini series was made for 6 year old kids that would keep them interested with the little action in the first 2 movies. And TCW was so biased towards the heroes. They need the bad guys to win sometimes in a fight. Really judging how most of the episodes went the republic should have won in a year if it wasn't for the Jedi holding them back. Most of the mini series's fans are actually a lot older. TCW was sometimes biased towards the heroes... but in many arcs the bad guys won especially in the later seasons. And remember the Republic was winning the war in ROTS, so obviously they were doing better. Yeah they are older cause it's been 10 years now.... |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:13:55 GMT -5
Star Wars literature and some sort of old Star Wars cartoon are not the same. Much of the EU shares this level of overpowered characters though. Not really. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 9:30:25 GMT -5
George Lucas probably, which makes it full canon. The prophecy can never be true or full canon.... It only takes some force power and a lust for power to become evil.... You can't just say no one will ever become sith again. Especially when they tasked Luke to rebuild the order. And wouldn't balance mean keeping some evil and some good? Like how is it balanced when only one faction is left. Idk doesn't make sense at all. Anakin killing Sidious fullfilled the prophecy. And Obi-wan claims Anakin was supposed to destroy the Sith. If Sidious survived all of that would be pointless. And being evil doesn't make you a Sith. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:36:42 GMT -5
The prophecy can never be true or full canon.... It only takes some force power and a lust for power to become evil.... You can't just say no one will ever become sith again. Especially when they tasked Luke to rebuild the order. And wouldn't balance mean keeping some evil and some good? Like how is it balanced when only one faction is left. Idk doesn't make sense at all. Anakin killing Sidious fullfilled the prophecy. And Obi-wan claims Anakin was supposed to destroy the Sith. If Sidious survived all of that would be pointless. And being evil doesn't make you a Sith. Yes if you study the teachings of the sith and master the arts of the force you're sith. All of the prophecy is already pointless... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 9:40:44 GMT -5
Anakin killing Sidious fullfilled the prophecy. And Obi-wan claims Anakin was supposed to destroy the Sith. If Sidious survived all of that would be pointless. And being evil doesn't make you a Sith. Yes if you study the teachings of the sith and master the arts of the force you're sith. All of the prophecy is already pointless... With all Sith dead the Sith order is gone. There might be other orders similar to the Sith Order... but they'll not be Sith. |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:44:29 GMT -5
Yes if you study the teachings of the sith and master the arts of the force you're sith. All of the prophecy is already pointless... With all Sith dead the Sith order is gone. There might be other orders similar to the Sith Order... but they'll not be Sith. Anyone can be inducted into the sith order. Or the dead sith could make someone that came to them sith. It's not like Revan, Malak, Exar Kun or Dooku where actually sith but just fallen Jedi that took up the dark side and yet everyone still considers them sith. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 5, 2014 9:48:42 GMT -5
With all Sith dead the Sith order is gone. There might be other orders similar to the Sith Order... but they'll not be Sith. Anyone can be inducted into the sith order. Or the dead sith could make someone that came to them sith. It's not like Revan, Malak, Exar Kun or Dooku where actually sith but just fallen Jedi that took up the dark side and yet everyone still considers them sith. Because they were taught by Sith. Revan and Malak were thought by the Sith Emperor and Dooku by Sidious (I don't know anything about Exar Kun). |
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Post by Newan on Apr 5, 2014 9:53:28 GMT -5
Anyone can be inducted into the sith order. Or the dead sith could make someone that came to them sith. It's not like Revan, Malak, Exar Kun or Dooku where actually sith but just fallen Jedi that took up the dark side and yet everyone still considers them sith. Because they were taught by Sith. Revan and Malak were thought by the Sith Emperor and Dooku by Sidious (I don't know anything about Exar Kun). Yes but how would that make them true sith.... And does it really make sense that Anakin has to kill Sidious? That's just stupid. It could have been over in ROTS if the Jedi had some brains and you know both went to kill the emperor first then both go slaughter Anakin together. And even if there happended to be no sith left that still doesn't bring balance to the force.... |
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Post by bane on Apr 5, 2014 12:57:00 GMT -5
Star Wars literature and some sort of old Star Wars cartoon are not the same. Much of the EU shares this level of overpowered characters though. Not really. Have you read the Fate of the Jedi series? Have you read the Legacy of the force series? In those book, characters aren't over powered. If they were there'd been no appeal for anyone to buy them. |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 5, 2014 12:58:33 GMT -5
Much of the EU shares this level of overpowered characters though. Not really. Have you read the Fate of the Jedi series? Have you read the Legacy of the force series? In those book, characters aren't over powered. If they were there'd been no appeal for anyone to buy them. Actually I think if they were OP there would be more appeal.. Look at TFU |
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