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Post by Pinda on Jan 25, 2014 15:00:37 GMT -5
1. It is up to them actually. 4. Again, you can't blame Aurra's defeat on those kind of things. Everything in stories in done for these kind of reasons. We can't ignore all these situations. 1. Leland Chee and George Lucas obviously didn't approve of making Aurra's backstory non canon, plus the fact she was force sensitive 4. First of all, she was going to kill Ahsoka and then Padme. Secondly, she had no idea that Padme was going to shoot her, it happened too quickly. 1. I doubt George Lucas even knows much about her backstory. He claimed he never read anything from the EU. And he can overwrite it if he wants, and so could the TCW writers. 4. Yes, but she would have lost anyway if Ahsoka could have moved around, but she couldn't because she had to defend Padme. If Ahsoka could have moved Aurra would have been defeated easily because they were in a small room, and Aurra only has an advantage from a distance. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 25, 2014 15:01:34 GMT -5
Well, she was obviously overpowered in those comics. I think TCW portrayed he more realistically and it's a higher level of canon. No, she wasn't, also TCW never implies she can't use a saber or force. It never directly said she wasn't. But they seem to imply it, or that's what I think at least. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:02:04 GMT -5
1. Leland Chee and George Lucas obviously didn't approve of making Aurra's backstory non canon, plus the fact she was force sensitive 4. First of all, she was going to kill Ahsoka and then Padme. Secondly, she had no idea that Padme was going to shoot her, it happened too quickly. 1. I doubt George Lucas even knows much about her backstory. He claimed he never read anything from the EU. And he can overwrite it if he wants, and so could the TCW writers. 4. Yes, but she would have lost anyway if Ahsoka could have moved around, but she couldn't because she had to defend Padme. If Ahsoka could have moved Aurra would have been defeated easily because they were in a small room, and Aurra only has an advantage from a distance. 1. But they never did 4. Aurra has enough skill to take on a Master, she could definitely take on a padawan |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:03:31 GMT -5
No, she wasn't, also TCW never implies she can't use a saber or force. But they seem to imply it, or that's what I think at least. Unless TCW or future movies unambiguously and directly show that Aurra cannot use the force or a saber, she can. |
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Post by bane on Jan 25, 2014 15:07:30 GMT -5
Aurra woudl totally win this. Although at first Ventres seems more likely to win, she would not. And please listen to this instead ignoring this evidence just because you think that character would definitely win First of all, Aurra's lightsaber feats are excellent, she went toe to toe with Aalya, but was only defeated because Aalya taunted her about leaving the Jedi, she also went up against Qui Gon and Obi Wan and held them off for a significant amount of time, Ventress gets defeated by Obi Wan alone within minutes. Aurra's force skills are not to be underestimated, she has demonstrated an outstanding force jump and has demonstrated a variety of other powers. Ventress can use both sides of the force but Aurra can too, Eeth Koth and Ki Adi Mundi both noticed this, Aurra used both sides to her advantage in her battles. Ventress' initial master seemed somewhat mediocre, whereas Aurra was trained by the Dark Woman, an extremely powerful jedi who later faced Vader. Aurra has killed several Jedi Knights and has killed some Jedi Masters in her time too, she even hunted the Jedi in their own temple , something that Ventress could never do. Aurra also has two rykk blades, these can withstand lightsaber attacks so if Aurra is somehow disarmed by Ventress, Aurra could just pull out her rykk blades. Not to mention Aurra's blasters, rifles, other sabers from Jedi she had killed and grenades. Ventress' force choke is actually quite weak, she could only do it effectively when she was very angry or upset whereas Aurra is completely callous, she probably could force powers very effectively. Also, choke can be countered with force push. Lightsaber: Aurra Force: Tie, but advantage to Aurra - So she just doesn't have it in her mentally. Your point? She needs to learn to ignore taunts. - The importance of this hinges on how old and experienced they all were. Be more specific as to when this even happened. Anyway, minutes is a long time in a lightsaber fight. - Then why on earth does she never use them. I have never seen her use the force, or for that matter a lightsaber. - We know almost nothing about him, so you cna't really say that. - The same can be said for Ventress. And we have no idea if Ventess would be capable of that kind of thing, as she's never tried. - Why does she never use any of this, then? -Yup, so weak that all it could manage to do is choke Obi-Wan and Anakin in the heat of battle, and choke at least ten pirates even in a weakened state.  |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:10:09 GMT -5
Aurra woudl totally win this. Although at first Ventres seems more likely to win, she would not. And please listen to this instead ignoring this evidence just because you think that character would definitely win First of all, Aurra's lightsaber feats are excellent, she went toe to toe with Aalya, but was only defeated because Aalya taunted her about leaving the Jedi, she also went up against Qui Gon and Obi Wan and held them off for a significant amount of time, Ventress gets defeated by Obi Wan alone within minutes. Aurra's force skills are not to be underestimated, she has demonstrated an outstanding force jump and has demonstrated a variety of other powers. Ventress can use both sides of the force but Aurra can too, Eeth Koth and Ki Adi Mundi both noticed this, Aurra used both sides to her advantage in her battles. Ventress' initial master seemed somewhat mediocre, whereas Aurra was trained by the Dark Woman, an extremely powerful jedi who later faced Vader. Aurra has killed several Jedi Knights and has killed some Jedi Masters in her time too, she even hunted the Jedi in their own temple , something that Ventress could never do. Aurra also has two rykk blades, these can withstand lightsaber attacks so if Aurra is somehow disarmed by Ventress, Aurra could just pull out her rykk blades. Not to mention Aurra's blasters, rifles, other sabers from Jedi she had killed and grenades. Ventress' force choke is actually quite weak, she could only do it effectively when she was very angry or upset whereas Aurra is completely callous, she probably could force powers very effectively. Also, choke can be countered with force push. Lightsaber: Aurra Force: Tie, but advantage to Aurra - So she just doesn't have it in her mentally. Your point? She needs to learn to ignore taunts. - The importance of this hinges on how old and experienced they all were. Be more specific as to when this even happened. Anyway, minutes is a long time in a lightsaber fight. - Then why on earth does she never use them. I have never seen her use the force, or for that matter a lightsaber. - We know almost nothing about him, so you cna't really say that. - The same can be said for Ventress. And we have no idea if Ventess would be capable of that kind of thing, as she's never tried. - Why does she never use any of this, then? -Yup, so weak that all it could manage to do is choke Obi-Wan and Anakin in the heat of battle, and choke at least ten pirates even in a weakened state. - She probably has - They were experienced and she defeated them - Read Aurra Sing comics, - He was killed by pirates - She has only killed one master - Read Aurra Sing comics - They don't use the force and are easy targets (Pirates) |
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Post by bane on Jan 25, 2014 15:21:08 GMT -5
- So she just doesn't have it in her mentally. Your point? She needs to learn to ignore taunts. - The importance of this hinges on how old and experienced they all were. Be more specific as to when this even happened. Anyway, minutes is a long time in a lightsaber fight. - Then why on earth does she never use them. I have never seen her use the force, or for that matter a lightsaber. - We know almost nothing about him, so you cna't really say that. - The same can be said for Ventress. And we have no idea if Ventess would be capable of that kind of thing, as she's never tried. - Why does she never use any of this, then? -Yup, so weak that all it could manage to do is choke Obi-Wan and Anakin in the heat of battle, and choke at least ten pirates even in a weakened state. - She probably has - They were experienced and she defeated them - Read Aurra Sing comics, - He was killed by pirates - She has only killed one master - Read Aurra Sing comics - They don't use the force and are easy targets (Pirates) - Well you just told everyone she didn't, sooooo..... - So you don't know when this happened. So for all we know, this could have been the day they became master and apprentice. - Bedah not. Unless you actually explain why she won't use any of her amazing powers....... - Yes, but he could have been hopelessly outnumbered for all we know. Are you saying a Jedi has to be killed by a Sith for their death to make the cut or something? - So who has Aurra killed, anyway? And we don't know said master's skill level in the first place. There are some Jedi that are masters chiefly because of their diplomatic skills. - If you want to me understand something, you can't just refer me to some random comic. - What about Obi-Wan and Anakin? I wouldn't consider them "easy targets"... and anyway, she was weak. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:24:51 GMT -5
- She probably has - They were experienced and she defeated them - Read Aurra Sing comics, - He was killed by pirates - She has only killed one master - Read Aurra Sing comics - They don't use the force and are easy targets (Pirates) - Well you just told everyone she didn't, sooooo..... - So you don't know when this happened. So for all we know, this could have been the day they became master and apprentice. - Bedah not. Unless you actually explain why she won't use any of her amazing powers....... - Yes, but he could have been hopelessly outnumbered for all we know. Are you saying a Jedi has to be killed by a Sith for their death to make the cut or something? - So who has Aurra killed, anyway? And we don't know said master's skill level in the first place. There are some Jedi that are masters chiefly because of their diplomatic skills. - If you want to me understand something, you can't just refer me to some random comic. - What about Obi-Wan and Anakin? I wouldn't consider them "easy targets"... and anyway, she was weak. - No I did not, that fight with Aalya took place many years before TCW, she could have changed by then - I do - I have. - Yet Ventress didn't die - Numerous Knights and Masters, I already posted a screen or two - I've already explained it a few pages back - She was angry |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 25, 2014 15:33:05 GMT -5
- Well you just told everyone she didn't, sooooo..... - So you don't know when this happened. So for all we know, this could have been the day they became master and apprentice. - Bedah not. Unless you actually explain why she won't use any of her amazing powers....... - Yes, but he could have been hopelessly outnumbered for all we know. Are you saying a Jedi has to be killed by a Sith for their death to make the cut or something? - So who has Aurra killed, anyway? And we don't know said master's skill level in the first place. There are some Jedi that are masters chiefly because of their diplomatic skills. - If you want to me understand something, you can't just refer me to some random comic. - What about Obi-Wan and Anakin? I wouldn't consider them "easy targets"... and anyway, she was weak. - No I did not, that fight with Aalya took place many years before TCW, she could have changed by then - I do - I have. - Yet Ventress didn't die - Numerous Knights and Masters, I already posted a screen or two - I've already explained it a few pages back - She was angry How does her being angry change anything? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:33:43 GMT -5
- No I did not, that fight with Aalya took place many years before TCW, she could have changed by then - I do - I have. - Yet Ventress didn't die - Numerous Knights and Masters, I already posted a screen or two - I've already explained it a few pages back - She was angry How does her being angry change anything? Hate makes a dark side user more powerful |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 25, 2014 15:33:59 GMT -5
- No I did not, that fight with Aalya took place many years before TCW, she could have changed by then - I do - I have. - Yet Ventress didn't die - Numerous Knights and Masters, I already posted a screen or two - I've already explained it a few pages back - She was angry How does her being angry change anything? Aurra was angry she got slayed by a little kid but.. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:34:47 GMT -5
How does her being angry change anything? Aurra was angry she got slayed by a little kid but.. Huh? She has never been killed and Aurra isn't angry she is sadistic |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 25, 2014 15:35:48 GMT -5
Aurra was angry she got slayed by a little kid but.. Huh? She has never been killed and Aurra isn't angry she is sadistic Um |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 25, 2014 15:41:20 GMT -5
How does her being angry change anything? Hate makes a dark side user more powerful And that's not allowed because...? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:42:16 GMT -5
Hate makes a dark side user more powerful And that's not allowed because...? I'm saying that Ventress can only utilise her full potential while angry/sad |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 25, 2014 15:42:43 GMT -5
And that's not allowed because...? I'm saying that Ventress can only utilise her full potential while angry/sad And that's a problem because...? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:44:12 GMT -5
I'm saying that Ventress can only utilise her full potential while angry/sad And that's a problem because...? It shows that Ventress' powers are not significant unless she is angry or sad, which she wouldn't be against Aurra |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 25, 2014 15:44:40 GMT -5
And that's not allowed because...? I'm saying that Ventress can only utilise her full potential while angry/sad So we can agree that Ventress wins?  |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:44:52 GMT -5
Huh? She has never been killed and Aurra isn't angry she is sadistic Um ? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
I'm saying that Ventress can only utilise her full potential while angry/sad So we can agree that Ventress wins? No... |
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Post by Namialus on Jan 25, 2014 15:47:12 GMT -5
And that's a problem because...? It shows that Ventress' powers are not significant unless she is angry or sad, which she wouldn't be against Aurra Ventress' powers are significant. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 25, 2014 15:48:13 GMT -5
It shows that Ventress' powers are not significant unless she is angry or sad, which she wouldn't be against Aurra Ventress' powers are significant. I guess that is a matter of opinion |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 21:13:40 GMT -5
Well I too think that people under estimate Aurra. She does use light sabers in the comics and was pretty badass with them. Ventress is very good too. So it is a close match up I think..so ah I will go with Aurra.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 26, 2014 8:10:43 GMT -5
No, because people don't like Aurra  I like her! But Ventress is better and I love her. I like Ventress!!! But Aurra is better and I love her!!! |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 26, 2014 8:13:23 GMT -5
If Aurra is so good, why is she not even the second best bounty hunter in the galaxy?
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 26, 2014 8:15:38 GMT -5
If Aurra is so good, why is she not even the second best bounty hunter in the galaxy? I don't remember the Bounty hunters being properly categorised |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 26, 2014 8:16:42 GMT -5
If Aurra is so good, why is she not even the second best bounty hunter in the galaxy? I don't remember the Bounty hunters being categorised Bane is the best, and Embo is second according to Dooku. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 26, 2014 8:17:45 GMT -5
I don't remember the Bounty hunters being categorised Bane is the best, and Embo is second according to Dooku.
And when did he say Bane and Embo were the best? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Jan 26, 2014 8:20:33 GMT -5
Aurra is definitely stronger and more skilled than Cad Bane. Cad Bane has never actually defeated a jedi face to face. Neither has Embo... Aurra has.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 26, 2014 8:21:19 GMT -5
Bane is the best, and Embo is second according to Dooku.
And when did he say Bane and Embo were the best? "Embo, who's second only to one this season... Cad Bane, who needs no introduction." It seems there's an official ranking, and Aurra isn't on the first or second place. |
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