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Post by Namialus on Nov 8, 2014 16:35:34 GMT -5
I haven't seen this show but I find it kinda hard to believe that people think the series as a whole is on the "9" level. That level constitutes a quality of exceptional stories like "Rookies", "Plan of Dissent", and "The Lawless", which I highly doubt Rebels has or ever will attain. I get that some people are liking the show, and that's totally fine, but it's really not as good as some people say.. and certainly not as good as TCW. I'd give Carnage of Krell a 9/10, and then some people are saying this is just as good? Very hard to believe. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 8, 2014 16:52:44 GMT -5
I haven't seen this show but I find it kinda hard to believe that people think the series as a whole is on the "9" level. That level constitutes a quality of exceptional stories like "Rookies", "Plan of Dissent", and "The Lawless", which I highly doubt Rebels has or ever will attain. I get that some people are liking the show, and that's totally fine, but it's really not as good as some people say.. and certainly not as good as TCW. I'd give Carnage of Krell a 9/10, and then some people are saying this is just as good? Very hard to believe. Not really its a pretty good show. TCW has been cancelled for awhile now I don't see much lost considering it had a lot of shit episodes at times that I hated these episodes thst in comparison are Equivlent to those ones are better here. |
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Post by Potato on Nov 8, 2014 17:15:43 GMT -5
Everyone has different rating systems... and some people might rate something higher since they got more personal enjoyment out of it. You can't tell someone how or how not to rate something.
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Post by Potato on Nov 8, 2014 17:17:19 GMT -5
I personally gave it an 8. It's a good show and it does what it should do, which is entertain. Not all shows are going to consistently be some amazing level of quality. Some are just for enjoyment purposes.
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Post by Namialus on Nov 8, 2014 17:37:28 GMT -5
I personally gave it an 8. It's a good show and it does what it should do, which is entertain. Not all shows are going to consistently be some amazing level of quality. Some are just for enjoyment purposes. I agree, but I just dislike how some people are suddenly using Rebels to insult TCW. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 8, 2014 17:50:44 GMT -5
I personally gave it an 8. It's a good show and it does what it should do, which is entertain. Not all shows are going to consistently be some amazing level of quality. Some are just for enjoyment purposes. Yeah it's a fun show to watch. Difference between the two is this show is meant for those kind of fun episodes cause of the characters. TCW wasn't and failed miserably at them. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Nov 8, 2014 19:36:46 GMT -5
Breaking Ranks was a really cool episode actually. And yeah, it did remind me of TCW sorta. Reminded me of Clone Cadets and The Acadmey a little. It was neat to see the Empire with a training Acadmey too. And Death trap.  |
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Post by Star on Nov 8, 2014 20:12:39 GMT -5
Breaking Ranks was a really cool episode actually. And yeah, it did remind me of TCW sorta. Reminded me of Clone Cadets and The Acadmey a little. It was neat to see the Empire with a training Acadmey too. And Death trap. Yeah, a lot actually. Especially since Boba and Ezra have *slightly* similar hair. |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 9, 2014 8:53:36 GMT -5
Yeah for quality I'd probably say 7.5/10 or 8/10
Enjoyment is 9/10 but again probably because we haven't had hardly any visual SW content for a long time so it's easy to get excited over this..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 8:53:40 GMT -5
I personally gave it an 8. It's a good show and it does what it should do, which is entertain. Not all shows are going to consistently be some amazing level of quality. Some are just for enjoyment purposes. Yeah it's a fun show to watch. Difference between the two is this show is meant for those kind of fun episodes cause of the characters. TCW wasn't and failed miserably at them. But in Rebels it's easier to revolve those characters around fun purposes, simply because the show only includes the same 6 crew, including chopper over and over. You can get to know them better. TCW had multi character plots, so the intent was ifferent, in terms of plot over adventure. I don't think they failed miserably though, the show won several Grammies which this show won't ever accomplish. Some just prefer this era vs. the other but even Sid you didn't like TCW as much you have to admit the quality was much better. I still like Rebels and I enjoy it but I Definatlwy don't think it failed miserably . |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 9, 2014 9:40:21 GMT -5
Yeah it's a fun show to watch. Difference between the two is this show is meant for those kind of fun episodes cause of the characters. TCW wasn't and failed miserably at them. But in Rebels it's easier to revolve those characters around fun purposes, simply because the show only includes the same 6 crew, including chopper over and over. You can get to know them better. TCW had multi character plots, so the intent was ifferent, in terms of plot over adventure. I don't think they failed miserably though, the show won several Grammies which this show won't ever accomplish. Some just prefer this era vs. the other but even Sid you didn't like TCW as much you have to admit the quality was much better. I still like Rebels and I enjoy it but I Definatlwy don't think it failed miserably . And there's no foundation. There's no purpose in the things that they do. They need an arc to tie everything together. Basically it's just a mess of stories trying to cram it into some plot. |
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Post by Potato on Nov 9, 2014 10:46:40 GMT -5
I personally gave it an 8. It's a good show and it does what it should do, which is entertain. Not all shows are going to consistently be some amazing level of quality. Some are just for enjoyment purposes. I agree, but I just dislike how some people are suddenly using Rebels to insult TCW. I think more people are using TCW to insult this show... They're both good shows, they're just a bit different from each other. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 11:54:38 GMT -5
Yeah it's a fun show to watch. Difference between the two is this show is meant for those kind of fun episodes cause of the characters. TCW wasn't and failed miserably at them. But in Rebels it's easier to revolve those characters around fun purposes, simply because the show only includes the same 6 crew, including chopper over and over. You can get to know them better. TCW had multi character plots, so the intent was ifferent, in terms of plot over adventure. I don't think they failed miserably though, the show won several Grammies which this show won't ever accomplish. Some just prefer this era vs. the other but even Sid you didn't like TCW as much you have to admit the quality was much better. I still like Rebels and I enjoy it but I Definatlwy don't think it failed miserably . The fun episodes of TCW like nomad droids failed as they didn't have those kinda characters. That Rebels had. Even if there isn't the greatest episode every week story wise at least there filler episodes have more entertainment value. And no I don't really like TCW era as much as other things since isn't very complex in terms of soldiers and leaders... Droids and Clones (outside of torrent company is meaningless). You got the worse jedi ever leading from one side (not counting Obi-Wan he seems to know what's up and Anikan, Yoda) and a few leaders like Dooku and Grievous that are pretty decent and actually keep things together. But in the end it's all so predictable since certain people need to die and you know how everything turns out. Palpatine controls everything which means nothing significant can really happen. Maul sucks so he can't really count he would never amount to anything. TCW best arcs where IMO Mortis,Citadel, Deception, Umbara, Geonosis, Sacrifice, Fives and Maul (even though now for me this is more cause it was well made and not so much of Maul). |
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 9, 2014 12:01:08 GMT -5
But in Rebels it's easier to revolve those characters around fun purposes, simply because the show only includes the same 6 crew, including chopper over and over. You can get to know them better. TCW had multi character plots, so the intent was ifferent, in terms of plot over adventure. I don't think they failed miserably though, the show won several Grammies which this show won't ever accomplish. Some just prefer this era vs. the other but even Sid you didn't like TCW as much you have to admit the quality was much better. I still like Rebels and I enjoy it but I Definatlwy don't think it failed miserably . The fun episodes of TCW like nomad droids failed as they didn't have those kinda characters. That Rebels had. Even if there isn't the greatest episode every week story wise at least there filler episodes have more entertainment value. Well you're comparing the only episodes of Rebels against the worst episodes of TCW because that's probably all they stand a chance against... |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 12:28:31 GMT -5
The fun episodes of TCW like nomad droids failed as they didn't have those kinda characters. That Rebels had. Even if there isn't the greatest episode every week story wise at least there filler episodes have more entertainment value. Well you're comparing the only episodes of Rebels against the worst episodes of TCW because that's probably all they stand a chance against... No im comparing ones like fighter flight and like nomad droids since they both are kinda supposed to be "fun" episodes... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 12:28:51 GMT -5
But in Rebels it's easier to revolve those characters around fun purposes, simply because the show only includes the same 6 crew, including chopper over and over. You can get to know them better. TCW had multi character plots, so the intent was ifferent, in terms of plot over adventure. I don't think they failed miserably though, the show won several Grammies which this show won't ever accomplish. Some just prefer this era vs. the other but even Sid you didn't like TCW as much you have to admit the quality was much better. I still like Rebels and I enjoy it but I Definatlwy don't think it failed miserably . The fun episodes of TCW like nomad droids failed as they didn't have those kinda characters. That Rebels had. Even if there isn't the greatest episode every week story wise at least there filler episodes have more entertainment value. And no I don't really like TCW era as much as other things since isn't very complex in terms of soldiers and leaders... Droids and Clones (outside of torrent company is meaningless). You got the worse jedi ever leading from one side (not counting Obi-Wan he seems to know what's up and Anikan, Yoda) and a few leaders like Dooku and Grievous that are pretty decent and actually keep things together. But in the end it's all so predictable since certain people need to die and you know how everything turns out. Palpatine controls everything which means nothing significant can really happen. Maul sucks so he can't really count he would never amount to anything. TCW best arcs where IMO Mortis,Citadel, Deception, Umbara, Geonosis, Sacrifice, Fives and Maul (even though now for me this is more cause it was well made and not so much of Maul). That could go broth ways for both shows. In Rebels you know that the team will always escape and survive any attack or plot from the enemy. In TCW you know that all the Jedi will die and that ROTS will happen. But I think that knowing that 66 will happen later on adds to the suspense as you watch TCW. Like when the whole arc about Fives almost discovering the secret clones part in 66 almost happened it engaged you because you know something that the character doesn't. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 12:34:28 GMT -5
The fun episodes of TCW like nomad droids failed as they didn't have those kinda characters. That Rebels had. Even if there isn't the greatest episode every week story wise at least there filler episodes have more entertainment value. And no I don't really like TCW era as much as other things since isn't very complex in terms of soldiers and leaders... Droids and Clones (outside of torrent company is meaningless). You got the worse jedi ever leading from one side (not counting Obi-Wan he seems to know what's up and Anikan, Yoda) and a few leaders like Dooku and Grievous that are pretty decent and actually keep things together. But in the end it's all so predictable since certain people need to die and you know how everything turns out. Palpatine controls everything which means nothing significant can really happen. Maul sucks so he can't really count he would never amount to anything. TCW best arcs where IMO Mortis,Citadel, Deception, Umbara, Geonosis, Sacrifice, Fives and Maul (even though now for me this is more cause it was well made and not so much of Maul). That could go broth ways for both shows. In Rebels you know that the team will always escape and survive any attack or plot from the enemy. In TCW you know that all the Jedi will die and that ROTS will happen. But I think that knowing that 66 will happen later on adds to the suspense as you watch TCW. Like when the whole arc about Fives almost discovering the secret clones part in 66 almost happened it engaged you because you know something that the character doesn't. I wasn't talking about Rebels thst isn't my favourite time period sure Empire vs Rebellion I like more in general but my favourite is TOR. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 12:37:49 GMT -5
That could go broth ways for both shows. In Rebels you know that the team will always escape and survive any attack or plot from the enemy. In TCW you know that all the Jedi will die and that ROTS will happen. But I think that knowing that 66 will happen later on adds to the suspense as you watch TCW. Like when the whole arc about Fives almost discovering the secret clones part in 66 almost happened it engaged you because you know something that the character doesn't. I wasn't talking about Rebels thst isn't my favourite time period sure Empire vs Rebellion I like more in general but my favourite is TOR. I know nothing about TOR. I should check it out and see what it's about. It's not like they have TOR movies, ( which would be nice). Guess you have to play the games. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 12:42:59 GMT -5
I wasn't talking about Rebels thst isn't my favourite time period sure Empire vs Rebellion I like more in general but my favourite is TOR. I know nothing about TOR. I should check it out and see what it's about. It's not like they have TOR movies, ( which would be nice). Guess you have to play the games. Story is better. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 12:48:57 GMT -5
I know nothing about TOR. I should check it out and see what it's about. It's not like they have TOR movies, ( which would be nice). Guess you have to play the games. Story is better. It seems cool. The takeover of Alderann and Malgus etc. I'm not sure about the full extent of it but I may buy the PC version of TOR. I know nothing about Revan either. I've always wondered about his story. Then I could play you online probably,maybe. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 12:51:24 GMT -5
It seems cool. The takeover of Alderann and Malgus etc. I'm not sure about the full extent of it but I may buy the PC version of TOR. I know nothing about Revan either. I've always wondered about his story. Then I could play you online probably,maybe. Well there isn't much PVP content and that stuff happens before the events in the game. And Revan is onky in like 2 missions before the new expansion this December. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 9, 2014 13:53:25 GMT -5
I know nothing about TOR. I should check it out and see what it's about. It's not like they have TOR movies, ( which would be nice). Guess you have to play the games. Story is better. I do admit. I prefer TOR over any other time period. But TOR has no TV show so I can't compare that with Rebels or TCW so I can't really tell how it would turn out story wise. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Nov 9, 2014 14:35:57 GMT -5
Lol my Dad was watching Star Wars Rebels, and he was a fan of the old movies (Prequels + OT + TCW) And he said exactly "They ruined Star Wars for me"
he talked about how washed out it was, and dumb downed they made the Original movies. And it was like a brick to the face for his childhood. He loved how TCW even though it was 12+ he found enjoyment in it, but Disney took that away for the new audiences.
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Post by Spidyyr on Nov 9, 2014 15:52:51 GMT -5
Average rating for Rebels on here is 7.4
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 15:57:20 GMT -5
I do admit. I prefer TOR over any other time period. But TOR has no TV show so I can't compare that with Rebels or TCW so I can't really tell how it would turn out story wise. It would be better easily |
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Post by Pinda on Nov 9, 2014 16:01:53 GMT -5
Average rating for Rebels on here is 7.4 Well, not really since I'd give it a 4/10 but that isn't an option... Either way, it doesn't deserve a 7.4/10 |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 9, 2014 18:28:25 GMT -5
Out of Darkness was probably the worst episode so far... And now Sabine is more annoying than Ezra..
And like nothing even happened I don't like how random and unexplained these episodes are I don't remember if other shows (cartoons) were like this most comparable would be like Young Justice or Ben 10 or something and I think even those had some major plot points spanning over multiple episodes...
Yeah this show is so over after season 2 and episode VII is going to be out soon anyways right? They probably won't continue it after that
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 18:31:12 GMT -5
Out of Darkness was probably the worst episode so far... And now Sabine is more annoying than Ezra.. And like nothing even happened I don't like how random and unexplained these episodes are I don't remember if other shows (cartoons) were like this most comparable would be like Young Justice or Ben 10 or something and I think even those had some major plot points spanning over multiple episodes... Yeah this show is so over after season 2 and episode VII is going to be out soon anyways right? They probably won't continue it after that I don't think it was ever planned to be continued... But if it's really that bad it would be the first bad one IMO. |
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Post by Newan on Nov 9, 2014 18:32:19 GMT -5
Gotta watch this game first it's an ass kicking.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 9, 2014 18:58:21 GMT -5
Out of Darkness was probably the worst episode so far... And now Sabine is more annoying than Ezra.. And like nothing even happened I don't like how random and unexplained these episodes are I don't remember if other shows (cartoons) were like this most comparable would be like Young Justice or Ben 10 or something and I think even those had some major plot points spanning over multiple episodes... Yeah this show is so over after season 2 and episode VII is going to be out soon anyways right? They probably won't continue it after that I don't think it was ever planned to be continued... But if it's really that bad it would be the first bad one IMO. Yeah I know and most XD shows don't anyway |
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