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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 22, 2014 14:40:42 GMT -5
So if we can't say its bad then you can't say it's good since I mean you haven't seen it either? We can judge it from the trailers, because trailers are meant for that. I'm giving it a chance yes, but it doesn't mean that I can still say its bad. I'm staying optimistic about it... There's really no reason it should be compared to TCW it's completely different. It's not different. Same people making it, it is part of the reason why there is no TCW, same universe, its Star Wars.
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Post by Newan on Jul 22, 2014 14:41:01 GMT -5
I'm staying optimistic about it... There's really no reason it should be compared to TCW it's completely different. The only real differences are the time frame and the characters. It's still Star Wars and should live up to the high standards TCW set. They didn't have the time and I'm pretty sure they still got a low budget.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:42:11 GMT -5
You can easily judge certain aspects of a show (like the animation) before it is released. It is safe to say this is the final animation, otherwise they wouldn't have put it in this trailer. So we can judge the animation on what we've seen. And there's no need to really say it's bad cause hmm... What other animated shows right now have better animation? I don't know. I don't watch any other animated shows, except Legend of Korra, but that's a different animation style. It's worse than TCW and they already had the means to animate in TCW-quality but Disney decided it would be a waste of money, their new audience (6 year old boys) doesn't care about crappy animation.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 22, 2014 14:42:40 GMT -5
The only real differences are the time frame and the characters. It's still Star Wars and should live up to the high standards TCW set. They didn't have the time and I'm pretty sure they still got a low budget. Disney is making everything low budget. The POTC is low budget now. The Pixar movies are becoming low budget. Disney is saving up to buy more companies to get more profit.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 22, 2014 14:43:12 GMT -5
The only real differences are the time frame and the characters. It's still Star Wars and should live up to the high standards TCW set. They didn't have the time and I'm pretty sure they still got a low budget. That just shows how stingy Disney are, instead of putting adequate money into Rebels they put the bare minimum in.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 22, 2014 14:43:19 GMT -5
And there's no need to really say it's bad cause hmm... What other animated shows right now have better animation? I don't know. I don't watch any other animated shows, except Legend of Korra, but that's a different animation style. It's worse than TCW and they already had the means to animate in TCW-quality but Disney decided it would be a waste of money, their new audience (6 year old boys) doesn't care about crappy animation. Actually my younger brother and cousin do care They don't like the animation at all.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:43:29 GMT -5
So if we can't say its bad then you can't say it's good since I mean you haven't seen it either? We can judge it from the trailers, because trailers are meant for that. I'm giving it a chance yes, but it doesn't mean that I can still say its bad. I'm staying optimistic about it... There's really no reason it should be compared to TCW it's completely different. Disney cancelled TCW so they could work on this thing. If they want to take a good quality series away they'd have to replace it by something that at least gets close to the same quality.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:43:59 GMT -5
They didn't have the time and I'm pretty sure they still got a low budget. Disney is making everything low budget. The POTC is low budget now. The Pixar movies are becoming low budget. Disney is saving up to buy more companies to get more profit. Disney doesn't need a high budget. People will watch their shit anyway because it's Disney (or in this case Star Wars).
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:44:32 GMT -5
I don't know. I don't watch any other animated shows, except Legend of Korra, but that's a different animation style. It's worse than TCW and they already had the means to animate in TCW-quality but Disney decided it would be a waste of money, their new audience (6 year old boys) doesn't care about crappy animation. Actually my younger brother and cousin do care They don't like the animation at all. Well, most really young children probably don't. Actually their target audience was likely not even born when TCW first aired. So they wouldn't have TCW to compare it to.
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Post by Potato on Jul 22, 2014 14:45:24 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:45:47 GMT -5
Didn't they say they'd release some special episodes throughout the summer to introduce the main characters?
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 22, 2014 14:45:52 GMT -5
Actually my younger brother and cousin do care They don't like the animation at all. Well, most really young children probably don't. Actually their target audience was likely not even born when TCW first aired. So they wouldn't have TCW to compare it to. Or born when Star Wars came out. So really why are they even trying to force a whole new audience. They still probably called Darth Vader, "Dark Vader".
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 14:46:25 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. If they have the same budget I wonder where the animation budget for Rebels was spend on...
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 22, 2014 14:48:21 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. Well for a company that earns 35 billion a year you'd think they'd be able to spare some more funds. The effect on their wealth would be negligible.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 22, 2014 14:49:12 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. TCW spent about 2 million per episode. They depended on advertisements, and commercials during the show, along with DVDs. Disney channel or XD don't really use advertisements on commercials much, which means the budget is probably much lower.
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Post by Potato on Jul 22, 2014 14:53:27 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. Well for a company that earns 35 billion a year you'd think they'd be able to spare some more funds. The effect on their wealth would be negligible. If they spend more then they risk not making as much. And like I said, this is some people's jobs. TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. TCW spent about 2 million per episode. They depended on advertisements, and commercials during the show, along with DVDs. Disney channel or XD don't really use advertisements on commercials much, which means the budget is probably much lower. I'm pretty sure Disney uses advertisements a lot too.
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Post by Newan on Jul 22, 2014 15:06:53 GMT -5
Yeah this show is already going to have more viewers than TCW cause Disney knows how to market.
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Post by bobafett590 on Jul 22, 2014 15:09:39 GMT -5
Yeah this show is already going to have more viewers than TCW cause Disney knows how to market. Yeah adverts to appear soon in nurseries near you!
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 22, 2014 15:11:27 GMT -5
I'm staying optimistic about it... There's really no reason it should be compared to TCW it's completely different. Disney cancelled TCW so they could work on this thing. If they want to take a good quality series away they'd have to replace it by something that at least gets close to the same quality. They didn't cancel it to work on Rebels. They cancelled it because of stuff like rights and profits...
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 22, 2014 15:15:03 GMT -5
Also I'm 98% sure anyone else who bought Star Wars would cancel TCW or as well. Some factors may have changed such as being allowed to release more episodes but one way or another I'm pretty sure it would've kicked the bucket.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 15:16:50 GMT -5
Disney cancelled TCW so they could work on this thing. If they want to take a good quality series away they'd have to replace it by something that at least gets close to the same quality. They didn't cancel it to work on Rebels. They cancelled it because of stuff like rights and profits... They cancelled TCW to "move in a new direction" with Star Wars series. So they cancelled it for Rebels, every other reason they could have is based on rumors since they never confirmed those.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 22, 2014 15:28:31 GMT -5
They didn't cancel it to work on Rebels. They cancelled it because of stuff like rights and profits... They cancelled TCW to "move in a new direction" with Star Wars series. So they cancelled it for Rebels, every other reason they could have is based on rumors since they never confirmed those. The new direction was OT and after stuff. From a point of view I guess you can say it was cancelled for Rebels but that's only one (somewhat minor) reason
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Post by Pinda on Jul 22, 2014 15:37:42 GMT -5
They cancelled TCW to "move in a new direction" with Star Wars series. So they cancelled it for Rebels, every other reason they could have is based on rumors since they never confirmed those. The new direction was OT and after stuff. From a point of view I guess you can say it was cancelled for Rebels but that's only one (somewhat minor) reason They never gave another reason.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2014 0:54:04 GMT -5
The new direction was OT and after stuff. From a point of view I guess you can say it was cancelled for Rebels but that's only one (somewhat minor) reason They never gave another reason. It's possible they couldn't air TCW on XD because of contracts to Cartoon Network, which may explain the shift.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jul 23, 2014 2:39:26 GMT -5
Let's compare. A shot from a space battle in season 1 of Rebels: And one from season 1 of TCW: Don't tell me the first looks better. It looks better in its own way. It is a very different animation style wich makes it look like the original trilogy more while Clone Wars looked more like the Prequels. In the Clone Wars we have huge space-battles because it is a war. In Rebels there is no war. This is The Ghost with the main characters (who would later inspire the rebellion) aboard battling two ships instead of hundreds.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jul 23, 2014 2:43:52 GMT -5
TCW and Rebels probably have a similar budget. It doesn't matter if it's owned by Disney now, they can't spend millions of dollars on this show and some people need to actually make money off of this because it's their job. It probably has a smaller budget than Clone Wars because right now it is uncertain how many will watch it. If it finds an audience than its budget will go up just like with TCW and thus the animation and everything else will improve per season, CW style.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 24, 2014 22:02:57 GMT -5
They released a comic con trailer. It looks really good I'm glad Luminara will be in it. PT ties always welcome although I expected the Jedi prisoner to be Quinlan Vos or Yoda (even though that would be sorta stupid..)
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Post by Potato on Jul 24, 2014 22:12:31 GMT -5
I don't like how they tried to match the stormtrooper's blaster fire to how it looks in the OT. It just makes it look bad in animation.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 24, 2014 22:15:47 GMT -5
I don't like how they tried to match the stormtrooper's blaster fire to how it looks in the OT. It just makes it look bad in animation. Yeah they just look like red sticks.... They should've made them like TCW's blaster fire.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jul 25, 2014 3:45:02 GMT -5
So Luminara lives. Did not see that one coming. Also: R2-D2 acn C-3PO!! Really cool trailer though, i was already excited for the show and this trailer only rose my excitement even more. One qeustion though. The Inquisitor is not a Sith, but he clearly used Force Push on Kanan. What's up with that?
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