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Post by Pinda on Dec 11, 2015 10:46:33 GMT -5
None of the new trio will die in TFA I think.. And I'm more excited to see Supreme leader Snoke than Kylo Ren for some reason.  Snoke is suffering from the "Zaros syndrome". People are excited about him because they know nothing about him. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Dec 11, 2015 14:43:01 GMT -5
The advertisements omfg...... I was watching American Horror Story and I counted 24 ads in a span of 45 minutes that advertised star wars. It's getting insane and obnoxious as F
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Post by squiggy on Dec 12, 2015 14:35:03 GMT -5
In terms of the poll: Chewbacca. Can it really be Star Wars without him?...
Do we have a synopsis of the movie yet that is true and is not based on rumors?
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Post by Potato on Dec 12, 2015 17:43:27 GMT -5
In terms of the poll: Chewbacca. Can it really be Star Wars without him?... Do we have a synopsis of the movie yet that is true and is not based on rumors? Probably. The entire plot of the movie leaked like 8 months ago. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 12, 2015 17:44:48 GMT -5
In terms of the poll: Chewbacca. Can it really be Star Wars without him?... Do we have a synopsis of the movie yet that is true and is not based on rumors? Probably. The entire plot of the movie leaked like 8 months ago. 8 months ago, really? I'm surprised I didn't come across any major spoilers yet then. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 12, 2015 18:22:49 GMT -5
Really tired of all the advertising.. I mean even though some of it is cool they need to not |
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Post by Potato on Dec 12, 2015 18:49:06 GMT -5
Probably. The entire plot of the movie leaked like 8 months ago. 8 months ago, really? I'm surprised I didn't come across any major spoilers yet then. Yeah, it's actually not as well known as I would have thought. I think the main reason for that is because a lot of people were hesitant about that plot outline being legit. But now that we've seen so much of the film through trailers, it's basically confirmed that the rough outline was real. I've slowly spoiled it for myself over the last few months (which I probably shouldn't have done, but I think spoilers sort of help with the anticipation... ). |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Dec 12, 2015 18:57:16 GMT -5
Really tired of all the advertising.. I mean even though some of it is cool they need to not It makes me not wanna see it. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Dec 12, 2015 18:58:23 GMT -5
But I mean they kind of have to, cause they can't really have products in their movie to help other companies. Like with Jurassic World lot of companies did that. But Star Wars you can't so they're spending it all on advertisements.
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Post by squiggy on Dec 12, 2015 20:57:17 GMT -5
Any way I could get a rough outline of the plot of the movie without spoilers? I always find it easier to follow along with what's going on If I know the outline or pout not the movie without knowing exactly how it's going to happen.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 13, 2015 8:59:20 GMT -5
But I mean they kind of have to, cause they can't really have products in their movie to help other companies. Like with Jurassic World lot of companies did that. But Star Wars you can't so they're spending it all on advertisements. ![]()  |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 13, 2015 10:10:30 GMT -5
Just 4 days left until i see it!  |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 13, 2015 15:28:25 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 8:54:26 GMT -5
So here is my Plagueis theory:
Plagueis helped Palpatine rise to power in the senate, but he knew Palpatine was plotting against him behind his back. He was obviously aware of Maul's existence, which was probably suspicious enough to him (like Sidious would later order Dooku to kill Ventress because he feared they were plotting against him). But Plagueis realized that, since Palpatine was on his way to becoming a chancellor, Palpatine was key to his plan. So instead of stopping Palpatine's plot Plagueis found a way to deceive him. Plagueis created Anakin through the force as a pawn to deal with Sidious.
Plagueis is said to have been obsessed with finding a way to cheat death, he was always alert and didn't sleep for 10 years after an attempt to assassinate him (non-canon now, but still). Yet he fell asleep in a room with Palpatine, whom he obviously didn't trust. What if he knew he was ready to die? He faked his death or revived himself in a new body and let Palpatine execute the rest of his plan. Palpatine manages to turn Anakin to the darkside, allowing them to wipe out the Jedi together, eliminating Plagueis's greatest competition. Anakin then eventually turns on Palpatine, as Plagueis planned, killing himself in the progress. Leaving just Luke to oppose Plagueis. Plagueis slowly starts gaining influence in the falling Empire and reforms it as the First Order. With the Jedi and Sith mostly gone Plagueis has become the true power in the galaxy. So Plagueis was behind everything and is now Snoke.
Snoke's face could be damaged for several reasons. One would be the original assassination attempt on Plagueis from the book. After this assassination attempt Plagueis is forced to wear a breathing mask because his face is severely damaged (I could imagine Snoke would need a breathing mask too if he looked like the sculpture) but it could also be the result of Palpatine's attempt to kill him or the midicholorians literally trying to consume him.
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Post by Potato on Dec 14, 2015 12:52:32 GMT -5
I still don't think Snoke is Plagueis. Either way, I bet these debates will be continuing for at least another year and a half since a lot about Snoke will be left open. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 14:11:56 GMT -5
I still don't think Snoke is Plagueis. Either way, I bet these debates will be continuing for at least another year and a half since a lot about Snoke will be left open. Yeah I don't think they will reveal much about him, but perhaps enough to rule out or strengthen some theories. I am not saying I think Snoke is Plagueis though... I just think it would be amazing if he was. I can't think of another serious existing candidate that could be the sequels main villain. And it would be kind of lame to have Snoke be someone new entirely. He is so mysterious... it would be stupid if there wasn't a real reason for that. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 14, 2015 14:15:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry Pinda, but considering how Disney treats the prequels like Voldemort, I really can't see how Plaguis can come back as this trilogy's main villain. And this is Palpatine we're talking about, a man that likely makes sure someone he wants dead, stays dead. It would be a crazy twist, one that could be good, sure, but it looks too bold a move for a film that's clearly playing it as safe as it can. On a different note, my dad booked tickets for us to go on Friday. Probably have to come to the cinema an hour early just to get decent seats |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 14:25:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry Pinda, but considering how Disney treats the prequels like Voldemort, I really can't see how Plaguis can come back as this trilogy's main villain. And this is Palpatine we're talking about, a man that likely makes sure someone he wants dead, stays dead. It would be a crazy twist, one that could be good, sure, but it looks too bold a move for a film that's clearly playing it as safe as it can. On a different note, my dad booked tickets for us to go on Friday. Probably have to come to the cinema an hour early just to get decent seats Well the Tarkin novel apparently mentioned Plageuis so he hasn't been ignored (granted the writer of the novel also wrote the Plagueis novel) snd they can't ignore the prequels entirely. Whether people like it or not the prequels exist and are part of the saga... you can't have a series of movies were the first three movies have no connection with the last three at all. Plageuis would be the perfect tool to connect the prequels and sequels without consequences (since Plageuis is not a hated part if the prequels). I am glad we can choose seats online when ordering tickets here. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 14, 2015 14:49:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry Pinda, but considering how Disney treats the prequels like Voldemort, I really can't see how Plaguis can come back as this trilogy's main villain. And this is Palpatine we're talking about, a man that likely makes sure someone he wants dead, stays dead. It would be a crazy twist, one that could be good, sure, but it looks too bold a move for a film that's clearly playing it as safe as it can. On a different note, my dad booked tickets for us to go on Friday. Probably have to come to the cinema an hour early just to get decent seats Well the Tarkin novel apparently mentioned Plageuis so he hasn't been ignored (granted the writer of the novel also wrote the Plagueis novel) snd they can't ignore the prequels entirely. Whether people like it or not the prequels exist and are part of the saga... you can't have a series of movies were the first three movies have no connection with the last three at all. Plageuis would be the perfect tool to connect the prequels and sequels without consequences (since Plageuis is not a hated part if the prequels). I am glad we can choose seats online when ordering tickets here. True, the opera scene is considered one of the best of the prequels. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 15:22:31 GMT -5
Well the Tarkin novel apparently mentioned Plageuis so he hasn't been ignored (granted the writer of the novel also wrote the Plagueis novel) snd they can't ignore the prequels entirely. Whether people like it or not the prequels exist and are part of the saga... you can't have a series of movies were the first three movies have no connection with the last three at all. Plageuis would be the perfect tool to connect the prequels and sequels without consequences (since Plageuis is not a hated part if the prequels). I am glad we can choose seats online when ordering tickets here. True, the opera scene is considered one of the best of the prequels. Exactly. I never considered it one of the best (still good) but many people do apparently. So using that part of the prequels would make sense. And only people that pay attention to details like this would make the connection. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 14, 2015 16:04:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry Pinda, but considering how Disney treats the prequels like Voldemort, I really can't see how Plaguis can come back as this trilogy's main villain. And this is Palpatine we're talking about, a man that likely makes sure someone he wants dead, stays dead. It would be a crazy twist, one that could be good, sure, but it looks too bold a move for a film that's clearly playing it as safe as it can. On a different note, my dad booked tickets for us to go on Friday. Probably have to come to the cinema an hour early just to get decent seats Well the Tarkin novel apparently mentioned Plageuis so he hasn't been ignored (granted the writer of the novel also wrote the Plagueis novel) snd they can't ignore the prequels entirely. Whether people like it or not the prequels exist and are part of the saga... you can't have a series of movies were the first three movies have no connection with the last three at all. Plageuis would be the perfect tool to connect the prequels and sequels without consequences (since Plageuis is not a hated part if the prequels). I am glad we can choose seats online when ordering tickets here. Well yes, a lot of the Star Wars stuff Disney's churned out hasn't been avoiding the prequels like the darned plague (heck, Marvel's making an Anakin and Ob-Wan comic next year) but from what I've gone by, putting into account that Abrams has little to no interest in them and how desperate they are to make this more affiliated with the original trilogy at all costs, even if that meant this trilogy has hardly any connection to those films, which would undercut the whole, sweeping space opera epic saga this series is supposed to be, Episode VII will not be seeing Plaguis as a main villain. My guess is that they'll only use particular mentions of Obi-Wan and Anakin as far as prequel connections are concerned, maybe mentioning some events that happened back then, like Luke mentioning the Clone Wars. I guess I might be being a bit of a pessimist on this one (believe me, I would love this film to take a few chances and trying to make this a bit connected to the prequels would one of them), but I can't see Snoke having this big reveal in being Plaguis all along, which would leave us with the elephant in the room (more a mammoth if anything) as to how in the world he survived Palpatine's murder attempt and how he kept him from not knowing he was still kicking. That would deserve a movie in itself, one that I doubt Disney would have any interest whatsoever in telling. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 16:08:08 GMT -5
Well the Tarkin novel apparently mentioned Plageuis so he hasn't been ignored (granted the writer of the novel also wrote the Plagueis novel) snd they can't ignore the prequels entirely. Whether people like it or not the prequels exist and are part of the saga... you can't have a series of movies were the first three movies have no connection with the last three at all. Plageuis would be the perfect tool to connect the prequels and sequels without consequences (since Plageuis is not a hated part if the prequels). I am glad we can choose seats online when ordering tickets here. Well yes, a lot of the Star Wars stuff Disney's churned out hasn't been avoiding the prequels like the darned plague (heck, Marvel's making an Anakin and Ob-Wan comic next year) but from what I've gone by, putting into account that Abrams has little to no interest in them and how desperate they are to make this more affiliated with the original trilogy at all costs, even if that meant this trilogy has hardly any connection to those films, which would undercut the whole, sweeping space opera epic saga this series is supposed to be, Episode VII will not be seeing Plaguis as a main villain. My guess is that they'll only use particular mentions of Obi-Wan and Anakin as far as prequel connections are concerned, maybe mentioning some events that happened back then, like Luke mentioning the Clone Wars. I guess I might be being a bit of a pessimist on this one (believe me, I would love this film to take a few chances and trying to make this a bit connected to the prequels would one of them), but I can't see Snoke having this big reveal in being Plaguis all along, which would leave us with the elephant in the room (more a mammoth if anything) as to how in the world he survived Palpatine's murder attempt and how he kept him from not knowing he was still kicking. That would deserve a movie in itself, one that I doubt Disney would have any interest whatsoever in telling. Well, I'm not sure if you saw the Snoke sculpture, but his appearance could explain how he survived if he was Plagueis. And if Plagueis cheated death I would assume that will be a main theme in the rest of the sequel trilogy... it's probably related to his ultimate goal, so they could explain it during the story. Either way, if it isn't Plagueis the Snoke reveal will probably be disappointing... |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 14, 2015 16:35:54 GMT -5
Well yes, a lot of the Star Wars stuff Disney's churned out hasn't been avoiding the prequels like the darned plague (heck, Marvel's making an Anakin and Ob-Wan comic next year) but from what I've gone by, putting into account that Abrams has little to no interest in them and how desperate they are to make this more affiliated with the original trilogy at all costs, even if that meant this trilogy has hardly any connection to those films, which would undercut the whole, sweeping space opera epic saga this series is supposed to be, Episode VII will not be seeing Plaguis as a main villain. My guess is that they'll only use particular mentions of Obi-Wan and Anakin as far as prequel connections are concerned, maybe mentioning some events that happened back then, like Luke mentioning the Clone Wars. I guess I might be being a bit of a pessimist on this one (believe me, I would love this film to take a few chances and trying to make this a bit connected to the prequels would one of them), but I can't see Snoke having this big reveal in being Plaguis all along, which would leave us with the elephant in the room (more a mammoth if anything) as to how in the world he survived Palpatine's murder attempt and how he kept him from not knowing he was still kicking. That would deserve a movie in itself, one that I doubt Disney would have any interest whatsoever in telling. Well, I'm not sure if you saw the Snoke sculpture, but his appearance could explain how he survived if he was Plagueis. And if Plagueis cheated death I would assume that will be a main theme in the rest of the sequel trilogy... it's probably related to his ultimate goal, so they could explain it during the story. Either way, if it isn't Plagueis the Snoke reveal will probably be disappointing... Snoke not being Plaguis is exactly what I expect to see, but I would love to see myself wrong and see this whole saga extension reveal how he got away and why he dropped his Sith name. Guess we'll both find out in a handful of days to know the truth and see who got what wrong in their speculation. I mean who knows? Maybe Snoke's revealed to be the Grand Inquisitor, or Palpatine's long lost cousin for whatever crazy reason |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 14, 2015 16:38:41 GMT -5
Well, I'm not sure if you saw the Snoke sculpture, but his appearance could explain how he survived if he was Plagueis. And if Plagueis cheated death I would assume that will be a main theme in the rest of the sequel trilogy... it's probably related to his ultimate goal, so they could explain it during the story. Either way, if it isn't Plagueis the Snoke reveal will probably be disappointing... Snoke not being Plaguis is exactly what I expect to see, but I would love to see myself wrong and see this whole saga extension reveal how he got away and why he dropped his Sith name. Guess we'll both find out in a handful of days to know the truth and see who got what wrong in their speculation. I mean who knows? Maybe Snoke's revealed to be the Grand Inquisitor, or Palpatine's long lost cousin for whatever crazy reason Well, there is a theory that he is the Grand Inquisitor, but I really hope that isn't true... but there is some convincing evidence... |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 15, 2015 7:34:09 GMT -5
Just a reminder for people from North-America: European cinemas will start showing the movie in about 18 hours, much earlier than American cinemas. So if you want to avoid spoilers start being careful on the internet tomorrow.
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Post by Newan on Dec 15, 2015 10:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Dec 15, 2015 16:50:38 GMT -5
I have to say, at first I didn't care much for this movie... but the mystery surrounding Snoke and Luke got me excited for it over the last weeks. If the movie is any good and there are some decent plottwists related to both mysteries (and hopefully more) it might revive my interest in Star Wars. But if it sucks and the twists are disappointing... well, let's hope I never meet Bob Iger... for his sake.
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Post by Spidyyr on Dec 15, 2015 17:03:36 GMT -5
I have to say, at first I didn't care much for this movie... but the mystery surrounding Snoke and Luke got me excited for it over the last weeks. If the movie is any good and there are some decent plottwists related to both mysteries (and hopefully more) it might revive my interest in Star Wars. But if it sucks and the twists are disappointing... well, let's hope I never meet Bob Iger... for his sake. I think it'll be good and maybe I'll see it at some point. But I still think it would be hilarious if it sucked ass. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Dec 15, 2015 18:04:01 GMT -5
Just one more day! |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 15, 2015 18:06:43 GMT -5
Just one more day! 4 days for me  |
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