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Post by Newan on Aug 15, 2021 10:07:55 GMT -5
So this is the next show on the list to be released in December. Thoughts?
I’m pretty neutral at this point, I think Boba Fett deserves his own show even if it’s just one season. I just hope they can differentiate it enough from Mando.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 15, 2021 15:07:53 GMT -5
Of everything announced, this is the one I'm most excited for and the one I'm least worried about them fucking up. I'm really interested to see what else Robert Rodriguez brings to the table. Dude's friends with Tarantino and they've worked on stuff together. He's also a very indie type of director just like George was. Bringing that kind of presence to Star Wars sounds fantastic to me. Sadly Disney will probably hold him back from doing the best he can.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 15, 2021 16:54:57 GMT -5
Knowing Rodriguez, the action scenes will be ace and considering how straightforward it is to make a decent Boba show, I think it'll turn out well. I'm really curious though to see if they'll touch upon his time in the sarlacc and show how he got out and perhaps even show how the experience changed him as a person. I'd also be very welcoming to the idea of Boba reflecting on his past like his bounty hunting career or even see him embracing his Mandalorian culture more.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 1, 2021 11:39:27 GMT -5
Trailer might not have been anything mind blowing but it still looks cool and I'm excited. Though I hope he wears his helmet more often, why take away from that badass look?
There were some rumors a while back about Hammerhead being a big character, I guess they were true.
I was also thinking about how this show would tie into the Filoniverse with the Thrawn endgame. I'm thinking either it will be more isolated or they will use this show to introduce Talon Karrde or a replacement character. It'd be insane if they incorporated the Katana fleet but I doubt it will happen
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 1, 2021 12:32:05 GMT -5
Trailer might not have been anything mind blowing but it still looks cool and I'm excited. Though I hope he wears his helmet more often, why take away from that badass look? There were some rumors a while back about Hammerhead being a big character, I guess they were true. I was also thinking about how this show would tie into the Filoniverse with the Thrawn endgame. I'm thinking either it will be more isolated or they will use this show to introduce Talon Karrde or a replacement character. It'd be insane if they incorporated the Katana fleet but I doubt it will happen I agree, it was unusually understated. However, I don't think we'll have to worry about Fett ditching the helmet most of the time. It's too ingrained into his look. Of course, there'll be moments without it, but they'll keep it balanced. I'm really appreciating how these shows are using the good ol' fashioned Star Wars aliens though. I always hated how the ST just kept them firmly out of the picture. I heard a rumour the episodes are continuing the chapter numbering of Mando, so there's likely a chance this show ties into the greater picture at play here. Considering how it's about Boba taking over a vast criminal empire, it only makes sense it'll be connected to a grander scale plot. |
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 4, 2021 9:44:05 GMT -5
Actually the first shot of the B'omarr monk made me think it'd be really interesting if they explored their order more. We've never seen much of them on screen apart from the one in the background in ROTJ and their monastery on Teth
But I'm not expecting anything more than that little nod
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 12, 2021 13:17:10 GMT -5
Haven't seen it yet but it's what I expected, a little documentary thing talking about why Boba is cool. In general their Star Wars gallery content has been good it's just when they said Boba Fett special way back when, I got excited for some kind of actual content and not behind the scenes stuff lol
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 27, 2021 14:58:13 GMT -5
Maybe it's my last shred of optimism talking, but I am starting to get excited for Book of Boba. Mostly it's because I just know Fett will make a more interesting central focus than Din. In comparison, Din just kind of lacked the same charm and charisma. Even with his nuances and backstory, I never felt that massively attached to him.
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Post by Kenbo on Nov 27, 2021 17:43:03 GMT -5
The shot of the Slave I and Boba in his robe gives me hope there's some kind of flashback explanation of what he was doing for 5 years and the stuff with Cobb. Speaking of I'd love to see him make an appearance.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Nov 28, 2021 15:36:31 GMT -5
The shot of the Slave I and Boba in his robe gives me hope there's some kind of flashback explanation of what he was doing for 5 years and the stuff with Cobb. Speaking of I'd love to see him make an appearance. I believe we're definitely getting flashbacks here. I mean, otherwise we're just left in the dark and new viewers are left kind of confused lol I mean, why was he bumbling about Tatooine for years and not getting his armour back? These are questions that sort of need an answer. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 2, 2021 17:07:10 GMT -5
It's interesting how they're just feeding little teaser instead of a new proper trailer. I sort of expected one more big trailer before release, but considering how close we are now, I'm not sure we'll see one.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 29, 2021 11:53:56 GMT -5
Uh kinda disappointing opener honestly. It had a cool atmosphere, good music, and I like Robert Rodriguez's direction style. But beyond that it wasn't really that interesting. It really needed some kind of hook or mystery. They will likely stretch out the flashbacks unnecessarily which I'm worried might negatively affect the present day story.
Also they seriously nerfed Boba. This can't be the same dude who destroyed stormtrooper squads in Mando and cleared out Jabba's palace struggling against Tusken kids and low level thugs. I'm hoping there's an explanation maybe something to do with the sarlacc or his being a clone
Comparing it to the Mando opener, that episode was far superior I think. I remember giving it a 9/10 as I thought it was a perfect set up episode. This one on the other hand, I'll have to watch again but I'm thinking maybe 6 or 7. Most of its points will come from the cinematography or production values or some other cool bits but things like story and lore are weak sauce
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 29, 2021 13:23:14 GMT -5
I actually really loved it. The visuals are just so on point. Honestly think this could top Mando for potential. I think the reason Boba seem so nerfed here can be explained though. With the flashbacks, it's because he's weak from the sarlacc, the heat, the lack of water and food. Badass or not, you're gonna fail to do much in a fight.
Kinda wondered why he didn't use his jetpack in the present day though... Feels like he's still weak from being nearly eaten, though his appearance in Mando suggested otherwise, so I'm not sure if there's some sort of continuity hiccup there. I get the approach of "a badass is brought to his near and forced to rebuild into something stronger", but I think they may have overdone it.
Also Morrison is just so much better than Pascal for charisma and presence.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 29, 2021 13:23:40 GMT -5
Wasn't too impressed by the runtime though. Hopefully, we'll get some meatier episodes.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 29, 2021 21:31:48 GMT -5
I actually really loved it. The visuals are just so on point. Honestly think this could top Mando for potential. I think the reason Boba seem so nerfed here can be explained though. With the flashbacks, it's because he's weak from the sarlacc, the heat, the lack of water and food. Badass or not, you're gonna fail to do much in a fight. Kinda wondered why he didn't use his jetpack in the present day though... Feels like he's still weak from being nearly eaten, though his appearance in Mando suggested otherwise, so I'm not sure if there's some sort of continuity hiccup there. I get the approach of "a badass is brought to his near and forced to rebuild into something stronger", but I think they may have overdone it. Also Morrison is just so much better than Pascal for charisma and presence. A big complaint I've seen has been about cinematography/visuals and overall looking cheap which I don't get. I agree I think visually it looked very nice and more appealing than most of the stuff out there. I can understand his weakness in the flashbacks but five years seems like enough time to get back to normal. Though maybe he only recently started the bacta baths as he was still a nomad in the beginning of Mando. So I can see five years in the harsh desert leading to deteriorated health and decline of skills. But then the Mando badassery does create a bit of a continuity problem. Or it just makes Stormtroopers even weaker. I guess he did have that line about missing and shooting the wrong transport ship though... And I've seen a lot of the jetpack complaint as well but I think it can be hand waved pretty easily with him just not wanting to leave Fennec lol |
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Post by Newan on Dec 29, 2021 21:45:52 GMT -5
I actually really loved it. The visuals are just so on point. Honestly think this could top Mando for potential. I think the reason Boba seem so nerfed here can be explained though. With the flashbacks, it's because he's weak from the sarlacc, the heat, the lack of water and food. Badass or not, you're gonna fail to do much in a fight. Kinda wondered why he didn't use his jetpack in the present day though... Feels like he's still weak from being nearly eaten, though his appearance in Mando suggested otherwise, so I'm not sure if there's some sort of continuity hiccup there. I get the approach of "a badass is brought to his near and forced to rebuild into something stronger", but I think they may have overdone it. Also Morrison is just so much better than Pascal for charisma and presence. Idk I just don’t think Mando uses Pascal properly. Not sure if you watched GoT for example but his performance in that is pretty great. He was one of the highlights from season 4 and that’s widely considered the best, if not second best season of the show. He’s not really the best actor for the whole silent helmet guy. But his voice is pretty cool in the suit tbh |
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Post by Newan on Dec 29, 2021 21:48:40 GMT -5
I actually quite liked the first episode and I thought the visuals were fantastic for the most part. While the episode did feel a bit slow, I think there’s a lot of potential here. There’s a lot of different ways present day could go. Boba could end up being an honourable defender of Tatooine that even ends up commanding respect from the Tusken or he could descend into a ruthless crime lord like Jabba/ Maul type.
I’m really curious what the villain would be here… maybe Bane? There’s history with Boba and Fennec there. And I think we will no doubt see Mando at some point.
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Post by Newan on Dec 29, 2021 21:50:09 GMT -5
I am a little surprised Boba took his helmet off in public, didn’t think he would do that tbh. But I guess at this point most of the clones are dead too or way older than him.
I actually really liked Fennec in this where as I didn’t like her much in Bad Batch and was neutral on her in Mando.
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Post by Newan on Dec 29, 2021 21:51:21 GMT -5
I’m mainly wondering why they weren’t carrying guns tbh…
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 30, 2021 17:05:32 GMT -5
I actually really loved it. The visuals are just so on point. Honestly think this could top Mando for potential. I think the reason Boba seem so nerfed here can be explained though. With the flashbacks, it's because he's weak from the sarlacc, the heat, the lack of water and food. Badass or not, you're gonna fail to do much in a fight. Kinda wondered why he didn't use his jetpack in the present day though... Feels like he's still weak from being nearly eaten, though his appearance in Mando suggested otherwise, so I'm not sure if there's some sort of continuity hiccup there. I get the approach of "a badass is brought to his near and forced to rebuild into something stronger", but I think they may have overdone it. Also Morrison is just so much better than Pascal for charisma and presence. A big complaint I've seen has been about cinematography/visuals and overall looking cheap which I don't get. I agree I think visually it looked very nice and more appealing than most of the stuff out there. I can understand his weakness in the flashbacks but five years seems like enough time to get back to normal. Though maybe he only recently started the bacta baths as he was still a nomad in the beginning of Mando. So I can see five years in the harsh desert leading to deteriorated health and decline of skills. But then the Mando badassery does create a bit of a continuity problem. Or it just makes Stormtroopers even weaker. I guess he did have that line about missing and shooting the wrong transport ship though... And I've seen a lot of the jetpack complaint as well but I think it can be hand waved pretty easily with him just not wanting to leave Fennec lol Not really sure what they're on about on the visuals. I thought it was gorgeous. I will admit, it would be good to clarify his health on how much the bacta is still needed. Is he basically like a battery that needs recharging currently? Trouble is, it's still going with a somewhat minimalist approach to the script. These Star Wars shows can have an issue in not being particularly chatty enough |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Dec 30, 2021 17:06:54 GMT -5
I actually really loved it. The visuals are just so on point. Honestly think this could top Mando for potential. I think the reason Boba seem so nerfed here can be explained though. With the flashbacks, it's because he's weak from the sarlacc, the heat, the lack of water and food. Badass or not, you're gonna fail to do much in a fight. Kinda wondered why he didn't use his jetpack in the present day though... Feels like he's still weak from being nearly eaten, though his appearance in Mando suggested otherwise, so I'm not sure if there's some sort of continuity hiccup there. I get the approach of "a badass is brought to his near and forced to rebuild into something stronger", but I think they may have overdone it. Also Morrison is just so much better than Pascal for charisma and presence. Idk I just don’t think Mando uses Pascal properly. Not sure if you watched GoT for example but his performance in that is pretty great. He was one of the highlights from season 4 and that’s widely considered the best, if not second best season of the show. He’s not really the best actor for the whole silent helmet guy. But his voice is pretty cool in the suit tbh I don't really doubt Pascal's ability, I just think he's poorly utilised like you said. Hidden characters like Din need charisma to keep them interesting and Din just doesn't have that. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 31, 2021 11:19:59 GMT -5
I actually quite liked the first episode and I thought the visuals were fantastic for the most part. While the episode did feel a bit slow, I think there’s a lot of potential here. There’s a lot of different ways present day could go. Boba could end up being an honourable defender of Tatooine that even ends up commanding respect from the Tusken or he could descend into a ruthless crime lord like Jabba/ Maul type. I’m really curious what the villain would be here… maybe Bane? There’s history with Boba and Fennec there. And I think we will no doubt see Mando at some point. I'm guessing the mayor is the villain. He's likely the one who sent the thugs as the twi'lek at the start said to expect another delegation which was foreshadowing the attack. Most likely it's Hammerhead who we saw on a throne in the trailer. But I thought Hammerhead was some underworld guy and mayor seems like a more legitimate position. Unless it's a different ithorian character I feel like there's opportunity for a ton of familiar characters to show up however I wouldn't mind if they didn't as it kinda annoys me when they just do a cameo fest that makes the galaxy feel small. For personal predictions I think those that have a high chance of appearing are Bossk, Dengar, Cobb Vanth (in the flashback story) and maybe even the other Empire bounty hunters. Though idk I think some were killed off in comics. Bane and Mando could go either way. Both could fit in but they might not do it. Mando does make sense though but I'd expect him to have a very small role maybe even just in a hologram. But who I want to see most is Han and Chewbacca... |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 5, 2022 10:41:48 GMT -5
Highlight of episode 2 was Black Krrsantan, he had such a badass presence. The rest of the episode was kinda weird. Tbh at a certain point it stopped feeling like Star Wars and just a western adventure. Also I have mixed feelings about Boba's portrayal in the show... I mean to be fair they basically had a blank slate as outside of EU books/comics, Boba's character was rather undefined. But I'm not sure I like what they're doing with him here. Imo Boba is not Boba without the armor. The cool and mysterious dude from TESB doesn't seem present at all in this show. And honestly I don't like how he basically never has the helmet on. It was part of the character's intrigue and that's been taken away. Somehow Din Djarin felt more like Boba Fett than Boba Fett lol. And I really hate to say this but I can't help but be distracted by Temuera's appearance. I love the guy and his voice is mesmerizing. But I'm realizing the dude's just too old. Maybe he could play an older Rex or something but he feels wrong for Boba right after ROTJ.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 5, 2022 15:07:07 GMT -5
Really loved how much detail was being shown about the Tuskens. Kinda makes me want to check Wookiepedia to see how much they stole from the EU lol I feel like this was the first time Disney finally got that space western idea they've been trying a lot now to actually work. In this case, they're basically making a sci-fi Danes with Wolves  Just knew Hutts were going to get in on this though. More expected Gardulla or Jabba's poppa though, not some cousins who waited several years to claim Jabba's stuff I get how Boba being given this kind of unusual approach is odd and even out of place, but I kind of like it. My guess is, they'd already gone about the hold faceless, cool as a cucumber bounty hunter schtick with Din, so they tried something to make Boba stand out more. Although, that once again adds fuel to the fire in the "Why didn't make The Mandalorian star Boba instead of an expy?" argument lol Also, that "tricky little bugger" line has just got to be ad-libbed |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 5, 2022 18:41:09 GMT -5
I watched it again and actually enjoyed it more the second time. The stuff with the Tuskens is actually really nice and has some feel good moments. I didn't comment on the Hutts or Tosche Station but both were obviously very cool. So far this is kind of just a chill show to me if you get what I mean. Nothing crazy, just some light fun. It's enjoyable but I've yet to be truly impressed by anything. Honestly I might even say I prefer Mando's worst episodes to these two as even they had a little more interesting stuff going on, story and visual wise
Tatooine fatigue is very real and I think it's already set in for a lot of people. I'm starting to think it's very possible this show will never leave the planet... Wonder if it's cheaper for them if majority of it is filmed on a desert set on the Volume. Speaking of I feel like it's very noticeable they're on the Volume lol. I mean I don't care, I think it still looks nice but yeah. But back to Tatooine, it'll be kinda lame if they never leave. Obi-Wan's show will likely also feature Tatooine heavily. They need to find a new go-to planet. I really want to see Coruscant in the OT era
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 6, 2022 10:39:37 GMT -5
I watched it again and actually enjoyed it more the second time. The stuff with the Tuskens is actually really nice and has some feel good moments. I didn't comment on the Hutts or Tosche Station but both were obviously very cool. So far this is kind of just a chill show to me if you get what I mean. Nothing crazy, just some light fun. It's enjoyable but I've yet to be truly impressed by anything. Honestly I might even say I prefer Mando's worst episodes to these two as even they had a little more interesting stuff going on, story and visual wise Tatooine fatigue is very real and I think it's already set in for a lot of people. I'm starting to think it's very possible this show will never leave the planet... Wonder if it's cheaper for them if majority of it is filmed on a desert set on the Volume. Speaking of I feel like it's very noticeable they're on the Volume lol. I mean I don't care, I think it still looks nice but yeah. But back to Tatooine, it'll be kinda lame if they never leave. Obi-Wan's show will likely also feature Tatooine heavily. They need to find a new go-to planet. I really want to see Coruscant in the OT era I do agree, I think the lack of any space or space battles kind of reveals how these shows come with far more financial shortcomings than the films as well as their dependency on Tatooine. I think it's about time Disney grew a pair and got us back to Coruscant though. Or maybe have Book of Boba's nest series go to Nal Hutta or Nar Shadaa. Actually, having the latter appear would be freakin awesome |
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Post by Newan on Jan 7, 2022 21:34:02 GMT -5
I really like this episode tbh… idk the Tuskens are honestly one of the coolest species in Star Wars but so under developed in the mainstream movies/ shows. This episode gave us a lot of insight into their culture. I know one of the EU stories was A’Sharad Hett aka Darth Kryat who wasn’t really a Tusken but someone who wore the mask and was apart of their culture as well. I wonder if the Kenobi show will use any material from that. But I am also concerned that Tatooine is gonna be featured too much between this and Kenobi.
Also would like to see more of the present although I’m guessing season 1 is really bridging the gap between Bobas “death” and his reappearance. I’m just a little confused why he wanted to stay with the tuskens so long when he tried to escape earlier and could have when he got the speeders. I get Boba is typically portrayed as a pretty honorable character in most material but still seems a little weird.
I’m wondering if his tribe dies or he gets exiled at some point.
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Post by Newan on Jan 7, 2022 21:37:03 GMT -5
Given how small scale the marvel shows really are… I’m not surprised the Star Wars ones are more focused on specific things then grander battles and locations like the movies.
Honestly I don’t mind it at all though. It’s cool seeing these locations built on more. I also think most of the aliens in this show look really good (makeup and costumes are great) and it’s a relief to see familiar aliens rather then what the sequels shove at us….
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Post by Newan on Jan 7, 2022 21:43:25 GMT -5
Can we take a moment though to realize that the new Boba Fett armor actually makes a lot more sense after this episode… I was question the black robe/ skirt thing but I like it now
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Post by Newan on Jan 7, 2022 21:47:57 GMT -5
Also think there’s some inspiration here with the episode from TCW with the train except Bobas roles were reversed
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