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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 25, 2021 15:03:14 GMT -5
Eh, maybe he said it as a jab at Boba. I don't think it would make sense for them to recreate that scene. The head plate matches Boba's helmet dent. Given Bane's fight with Fennec I think they may be setting him up for an appearance in Book of Boba Fett later this year. If Fett is going to be the protagonist, we need an antagonist... and Bane would fit right in. He might be old by then, but maybe Duros age differently. Yeah I've been making up some head canon for Bane. So the clones line is because he doesn't count Boba as a clone. And his coolness during the Hunter duel even though he lost to Boba is because ever since that defeat he's been making himself better. As for him getting embarrassed by Fennec... I guess even pros have some bad days occasionally? Idk lol.. For Book of Boba I saw a rumor that Fett is going after people that wronged him. I don't think it would be that hard to fit in Bane. Normally I don't like when characters cross eras but I have less of a problem with aliens because as you said their aging could be different I'm still a bit suspicious if he'll actually appear by then. I mean, even by Duro standards he'd surely be a pretty old guy by then. My gut tells me he might meet his fate in this show, especially with Boba getting involved. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 29, 2021 2:12:56 GMT -5
Ahh I see what they are trying to do now... they are gonna establish the Fennec and Boba connection early and that’s why they had her fight Bane this early on
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 29, 2021 18:46:41 GMT -5
Ahh I see what they are trying to do now... they are gonna establish the Fennec and Boba connection early and that’s why they had her fight Bane this early on Didn't think about that but it makes total sense. Yeah Boba is for sure coming. Don't think we'll see him lead the attack against Kamino though like in Battlefront not just because he's young but also because they seem to be making him more of an honorable good guy. Also isn't Book of Boba dropping in December or something? I feel like I remember seeing that and Ahsoka was coming this winder but that seems pretty ambitious and we haven't really heard anything about the other Filoniverse shows. BOBF wrapped filming though I believe so I could see it happening as a Mando season 2.5 since season 3 is probably a ways off. I'd imagine they'd want to show some Fennec/Boba stuff before then |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 2, 2021 9:10:53 GMT -5
Pretty enjoyable for a filler episode. It was nice to see some developments with the CIS remnants. Raxus was also beautiful. I wish we saw more urban warfare like this in TCW. Also all the new characters were really cool, Senator Singh, Captain Bragg, and GS-8. I hope all three show up again at some point. I could see Bragg being a recurring Imperial character. Rebels liked to reuse the same couple officers too.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 2, 2021 14:51:45 GMT -5
Tiananmen Square Massacre, 1989 (Colorized)
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 3, 2021 12:30:03 GMT -5
Side note why did they use the word draconian, doesn't that come from Draco that Greek guy lol. But then again I guess they've been using the Greek alphabet with words like Omega and whatnot
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2021 12:52:23 GMT -5
Honestly this was a really good episode... there’s a lot of little things I want to mention. - First I find it quite curious the Empire already has Female officers given we saw none in TCW I believe. Although captain isn’t a super high rank so she must have some connection to another officer or something. But all the Thrawn and Tarkin novels tell us that the officer academy takes quite awhile, and not enough time has past since ROTS - Raxus was cool to see, I agree with Kenbo that we should have seen more urban warfare in TCW. Honestly I wonder if the show is gonna have a Separatist “Rebellion” plot line now. That would be pretty cool to see and would explain why the Empire was so hard on former CIS systems like Geonosis. But seeing Droids vs the Empire would be cool, obviously wouldn’t last long but I know the Tarkin novel dealt with a lot of CIS holdouts. - The Batch’s use of non lethal force vs the Clones is interesting, I understand why but in the Venator episode Wrecker literally threw two living clones to their deaths... I guess they try to save what clones they can? - I still think Omega has all the Bad Batch abilities but to a lesser extent maybe. Her being good at strategy is another example of one of Hunters abilities. Which I think he probably won their match, unless he lets her win idk. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2021 12:56:10 GMT -5
So at this point we have seen everything in the first trailers. Kinda hope we get another trailer for the last 6 episodes. Although we do know the names for the next 4 episodes and we know episode 12 is on Ryloth.
I’m still debating if Arcs or continuous storyline would be better for this show. Arcs might drag stuff out but the first episode was basically a 3 episode arc at the same time.
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Post by Newan on Jul 3, 2021 12:58:47 GMT -5
Honestly I think the separatist rebellion idea is the best way to have a large scale conflict so far in advance from the originals. It’s easy to distance the confederacy still fighting what is essentially the republic instead of what the rebellion stands for.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 3, 2021 15:27:49 GMT -5
So at this point we have seen everything in the first trailers. Kinda hope we get another trailer for the last 6 episodes. Although we do know the names for the next 4 episodes and we know episode 12 is on Ryloth. I’m still debating if Arcs or continuous storyline would be better for this show. Arcs might drag stuff out but the first episode was basically a 3 episode arc at the same time. Wasn't there a shot of a large battle with AT-TEs and clones on some dark planet? I don't remember if we already saw that maybe in the first episode narration or something As for your second point I feel like this show is kind of a mix of serialized with overarching plot as well as an episodic adventure vibe. Like Rebels. I think I prefer that over the very disconnected arcs from TCW I guess because maybe you can get more invested in the characters and story |
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Post by Newan on Jul 4, 2021 0:55:58 GMT -5
So at this point we have seen everything in the first trailers. Kinda hope we get another trailer for the last 6 episodes. Although we do know the names for the next 4 episodes and we know episode 12 is on Ryloth. I’m still debating if Arcs or continuous storyline would be better for this show. Arcs might drag stuff out but the first episode was basically a 3 episode arc at the same time. Wasn't there a shot of a large battle with AT-TEs and clones on some dark planet? I don't remember if we already saw that maybe in the first episode narration or something As for your second point I feel like this show is kind of a mix of serialized with overarching plot as well as an episodic adventure vibe. Like Rebels. I think I prefer that over the very disconnected arcs from TCW I guess because maybe you can get more invested in the characters and story Yeah I think there was a few things in one of the narrations of AT-TEs. I’m fairly certain we have see all the trailer footage now. Although I kinda wish they would do weekly previews again. Yeah I think the Rebels/ Mandalorian format works here, but I wouldn’t mind episode arcs away from the Batch as well or just have the Batch be doing something unrelated to some other plot lines in certain episodes. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 4, 2021 16:54:53 GMT -5
Aw nuts, we're back to filler again. I think it was almost stupid with how distrusting they were of the senator. I mean, why set a trap specifically for them when it's clear he's got bigger problems? Just seems like forced conflict. I'm not saying they have to be happy about it, but it just seemed so unlikely for any set up.
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Post by Star on Jul 5, 2021 22:23:04 GMT -5
As far as filler goes, I thought this episode was really good. Raxus looked gorgeous in every shot. I'm glad that AT-TE shot from the trailer wound up not being Onderon. It might be too soon yet to revisit Saw and whatever role he could have in connection to the Batch.
I agree with Newan that a CIS-Empire conflict would make for a really interesting story, even if just for 1 season. They could very easily go that direction based off how they ended the senator's part in this. Also enjoyed Omega having a meaningful part as we witnessed her strategy skills on full display. I'm still amazed how well she is written for this series.
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Post by Newan on Jul 9, 2021 6:02:15 GMT -5
This was a pretty interesting episode because it barley had any involvement from the Bad Batch and the way they did bring them in was clever. I kinda hope we get more episodes like this in the future or even episodes without them at times.
The animation was really good here I thought, we haven’t seen Ryloth since Supply Lines I believe? And there was a good use of taking a lot of Rebels models and putting them in TCW animation mainly with Hera, Chopper and their house.
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Post by Newan on Jul 9, 2021 6:04:04 GMT -5
I like Rampart as well, I kinda hope he doesn’t die at the end of this season although I could see it I guess. This was also Crosshairs best episode yet imo.
The new clone captain (missed his name) was intriguing, I feel like he doesn’t have a chip or order 66 didn’t trigger for him but he seems a lot more sympathetic then most clones.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 9, 2021 8:55:19 GMT -5
Incredible episode maybe my favorite so far. There was some great worldbuilding too like seeing the aftermath on Ryloth and the doonium refinery which is probably for the Death Star. I was so happy to see Orn Free Taa. Love that they're slightly going back into the political stuff. And I'm not mad he died because his death was actually useful plus it ties that loose end and I'm not wondering what he's doing later in the timeline
Hera and Chopper were great and I agree Newan, Crosshair was pretty badass here. Also LAATs, BARC speeders, and a turbo tank lets fucking goooo
And I guess Captain Howzer's name on the toy was wrong unless Ballast is a nickname or something. Guessing Hasbro just went off concept art which is why the Rex figure's helmet and pauldron were wrong too. Something is definitely up with him. I think it's pretty obvious he will betray the Imperials
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 9, 2021 8:58:47 GMT -5
If I remember the leaked titles correctly, Rescue on Ryloth is next so this will probably be at least a two part story. I'm guessing the Batch will be rescuing Cham, good way to loop them back into the story. This is a pretty interesting storyline though so I'm glad they'll spend a couple episodes on it. Won't mind staying on Ryloth either, it looked really good. I think we say it every week but the animation is just amazing
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 9, 2021 15:18:15 GMT -5
This is probably one of the best ways to do filler with a show like this. Really impressed with the lighting here. Never could they have made sunsets like that pop in the past. Kinda curious why Howzer is so sympathetic though. Shouldn't he be behaving more cold and calculating after the big double six?  Also, I couldn't help think when Cham's getting convinced not to kill Taa "I mean, whatever Twi-Leks call diabetes will likely pop him pretty soon, soo" lol Only trouble I have really is how this episode's set up makes the next one extremely predictable. We know the Batch will come in and rescue Cham and how his wife will probably get killed off, so it's a shame there's little surprise to be expected. |
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Post by Newan on Jul 9, 2021 22:22:12 GMT -5
Yeah Heras mother is gonna die in the next one most likely unless they save that for another season to return to Ryloth.
I’m starting to think honestly that the effect of the chips starts to diminish after a certain period of time which is why they keep doing the amplifying procedure on Crosshair. If it diminishes even if it’s only in some clones it’s enough reason for the empire to wants clones gone ASAP.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 10, 2021 12:03:37 GMT -5
Yeah Heras mother is gonna die in the next one most likely unless they save that for another season to return to Ryloth. I’m starting to think honestly that the effect of the chips starts to diminish after a certain period of time which is why they keep doing the amplifying procedure on Crosshair. If it diminishes even if it’s only in some clones it’s enough reason for the empire to wants clones gone ASAP. That's a good theory. If I'm remembering correctly I think they had clones or purge troopers execute order 66 in the Vader comics which I'm guessing was a while after this so not sure if it fits with that. But then again Filoni's shown he doesn't care about books and comics |
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Post by Newan on Jul 10, 2021 21:13:40 GMT -5
Yeah Heras mother is gonna die in the next one most likely unless they save that for another season to return to Ryloth. I’m starting to think honestly that the effect of the chips starts to diminish after a certain period of time which is why they keep doing the amplifying procedure on Crosshair. If it diminishes even if it’s only in some clones it’s enough reason for the empire to wants clones gone ASAP. That's a good theory. If I'm remembering correctly I think they had clones or purge troopers execute order 66 in the Vader comics which I'm guessing was a while after this so not sure if it fits with that. But then again Filoni's shown he doesn't care about books and comics I just looked that up cause I remembered that as well. The Jedi in Mon Cala was able to turn the inquisitors troopers against them due to the fact that they were newer clones that hadn’t had their chips activated in the purge. So order 66 wasn’t as wide spread as we might think I guess? Not everyone got the order during ROTS. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 16, 2021 8:53:42 GMT -5
Not too much to say about this one but yeah it was good. It was surprising how the clones followed Howzer and went against their orders, I figured Howzer was the one outlier. I feel like we won't see him again, at least not this season but they'll likely reference him and give an explanation to clones regaining their independent thought or whatever is going on.
So only 4 episodes remaining I believe. Next episode, titled "Infested", unfortunately sounds like it will be filler but episode 14 is "War Mantle" and no doubt stuff will go down there. Maybe we'll see Crosshair capture the Batch in the next one and return them to Kamino for War Mantle. They might even have to work together during that episode to defend against the infestation or whatever... lol just some ideas
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Post by Star on Jul 16, 2021 10:24:29 GMT -5
The Ryloth story was pretty solid, no complaints with it. I'm glad they're doing some arcs in this series. Rampart confirmed Taa's survival which goes in line with previous material, so that's cool they're sticking to that instead of writing over it.
A little surprised Hera's mother survived. But after watching this, I think it's better they hold that off. Would've felt rushed to include based on how they did this one, and it opens the door to it being a more impactful moment should they appear later in the show.
Next episode might be a filler mercenary job, but I think Crosshair should be involved pretty much the rest of the season. Not sure whether he'll rejoin the Batch or be killed. I don't really see them dragging him out as an antagonist past season 1, so something's got to happen to him these final 4 episodes I think.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 17, 2021 8:39:37 GMT -5
The Ryloth story was pretty solid, no complaints with it. I'm glad they're doing some arcs in this series. Rampart confirmed Taa's survival which goes in line with previous material, so that's cool they're sticking to that instead of writing over it. A little surprised Hera's mother survived. But after watching this, I think it's better they hold that off. Would've felt rushed to include based on how they did this one, and it opens the door to it being a more impactful moment should they appear later in the show. Next episode might be a filler mercenary job, but I think Crosshair should be involved pretty much the rest of the season. Not sure whether he'll rejoin the Batch or be killed. I don't really see them dragging him out as an antagonist past season 1, so something's got to happen to him these final 4 episodes I think. I thought Rampart was just lying about Taa it looked like he got a headshot and died in the last episode but maybe I'm misremembering or they didn't intend for him actually to die. Also was he still alive in Legends or something I didn't know that I agree about Hera's mother there wasn't really a good place to kill her off here. Does she for sure die though? I don't remember but I'm guessing her death was referenced in Rebels? |
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Post by Newan on Jul 18, 2021 11:38:06 GMT -5
I liked this episode, the Ryloth arc was one that made sense with all that happened in TCW. I really liked Howzer as well and hope we see him again but I think my theory about the strength of the chips wearing off my be right.
It seems like even Crosshair was having a few doubts near the end, I think they are gonna bring him back into the squad tbh. Although I’m starting to wonder if the Kaminoan plot line is gonna get wrapped up this season or not
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Post by Star on Jul 19, 2021 21:08:47 GMT -5
The Ryloth story was pretty solid, no complaints with it. I'm glad they're doing some arcs in this series. Rampart confirmed Taa's survival which goes in line with previous material, so that's cool they're sticking to that instead of writing over it. A little surprised Hera's mother survived. But after watching this, I think it's better they hold that off. Would've felt rushed to include based on how they did this one, and it opens the door to it being a more impactful moment should they appear later in the show. Next episode might be a filler mercenary job, but I think Crosshair should be involved pretty much the rest of the season. Not sure whether he'll rejoin the Batch or be killed. I don't really see them dragging him out as an antagonist past season 1, so something's got to happen to him these final 4 episodes I think. I thought Rampart was just lying about Taa it looked like he got a headshot and died in the last episode but maybe I'm misremembering or they didn't intend for him actually to die. Also was he still alive in Legends or something I didn't know that I agree about Hera's mother there wasn't really a good place to kill her off here. Does she for sure die though? I don't remember but I'm guessing her death was referenced in Rebels? I'm not sure about Legends, but the Lords of the Sith book from a few years ago had Taa in it. The events of it are from 14 BBY. Not sure the extent of his role in the story, but I believe he interacted with Vader. Also can't find anything online that states Taa died here, so I don't think Rampart was lying. I could even see them including Taa in a future Ryloth story if they really wanted to. Hera's mother is confirmed to have died, but I don't think we have a specific date/event for it. Rebels might have alluded to an Imperial conflict in the Hera's Heroes episode or one of the one's with Cham. Depending how far in the timeline Bad Batch goes, we might see her death. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 23, 2021 9:23:39 GMT -5
This one was kinda boring tbh... I'm glad that wasn't Vizago and a new character. It'll annoy me if they start putting Rebels characters everywhere in this like they did with TCW characters in Rebels
Idk if this is my least favorite one I think the only other one I didn't like was the Martez sister episode. This may actually be worse than that though but idk I don't remember the other one too well
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 23, 2021 9:44:43 GMT -5
Another thing which I hate to say it but Omega is kinda bothering me now... So many episodes are basically this:
Character: Help me
Hunter: No
Omega: wE hAvE tO hElP tHeM!!
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 23, 2021 12:15:49 GMT -5
Another thing which I hate to say it but Omega is kinda bothering me now... So many episodes are basically this: Character: Help me Hunter: No Omega: wE hAvE tO hElP tHeM!! Yeah, this is starting to become a regular thing and I really don't like it. It's lame, weakens Hunter's character and makes it kind of cringey how a little girl is seemingly always right with this moral game. Just feels like the writers are in a rut, waiting for the next major episode to develop their characters and as a result it makes me more certain this show isn't justifying its episode count. |
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Post by Star on Jul 23, 2021 21:08:34 GMT -5
That was probably the weakest episode so far, but at least it had some world building in it. I liked seeing the Pykes and the shoutout to Oba Diah. Also having Roland Durand appear after his brief mention in one of the earlier episodes was cool, I could see him popping up again.
Not much else to say about this one. Hopefully the final few episodes are much better.
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 