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Post by Star on Apr 8, 2021 10:22:24 GMT -5
Apparently this might go for 14 episodes or more. Even if that includes the 70 minute premiere being a string of episodes, that's still WAY more than I ever anticipated. I'm pretty surprised by that possibility too. It makes me wonder though if there won't be many seasons.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 8, 2021 13:27:30 GMT -5
Apparently this might go for 14 episodes or more. Even if that includes the 70 minute premiere being a string of episodes, that's still WAY more than I ever anticipated. I'm pretty surprised by that possibility too. It makes me wonder though if there won't be many seasons. Actually, now that you mention that, I do wonder if this is sort of supposed to be a one season wonder. Then, when that's finished they move onto another TCW sequel show with a different premise, in a way making them giant arcs.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 8, 2021 16:13:17 GMT -5
Apparently this might go for 14 episodes or more. Even if that includes the 70 minute premiere being a string of episodes, that's still WAY more than I ever anticipated. I'm pretty surprised by that possibility too. It makes me wonder though if there won't be many seasons. I don't think Disney is intending to create multiple season long series just a one and done type deal. Basically like Wandavision and I think it will be the same for both Star Wars and Marvel. I imagine Falcon/Winter Solider won't get a season 2 nor will Loki. For Star Wars we already know Obi-Wan is one season. Andor might cap out at 12 episodes as well and I can't see Lando going on for too long either. Mando is probably the only exception as it started before all this and they seem to want to tell a bigger story. The other Filoniverse shows like Ahsoka and Rangers, I could see two seasons but once they do the Thrawn endgame or whatever, that'll probably be it for them too. Idk about Book of Boba because I feel like that may be more separate from the other three shows and not be a part of the endgame crossover. I've also heard some things about Favreau getting fed up with the Mando drama and just moving on with Boba but who knows. As for Bad Batch yeah I can definitely see it being a short run but on the other hand I could see about Rebels length too. I think animation is more flexible
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Post by Star on Apr 8, 2021 16:31:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised by that possibility too. It makes me wonder though if there won't be many seasons. I don't think Disney is intending to create multiple season long series just a one and done type deal. Basically like Wandavision and I think it will be the same for both Star Wars and Marvel. I imagine Falcon/Winter Solider won't get a season 2 nor will Loki. For Star Wars we already know Obi-Wan is one season. Andor might cap out at 12 episodes as well and I can't see Lando going on for too long either. Mando is probably the only exception as it started before all this and they seem to want to tell a bigger story. The other Filoniverse shows like Ahsoka and Rangers, I could see two seasons but once they do the Thrawn endgame or whatever, that'll probably be it for them too. Idk about Book of Boba because I feel like that may be more separate from the other three shows and not be a part of the endgame crossover. I've also heard some things about Favreau getting fed up with the Mando drama and just moving on with Boba but who knows. As for Bad Batch yeah I can definitely see it being a short run but on the other hand I could see about Rebels length too. I think animation is more flexible I agree that a lot of them will be single seasons, but I think some of the series will vary. Loki already has a second season in development, for instance. Since Bad Batch is animated, I expected several seasons, but if we're getting 14+ episodes as rumored, it might only be 1-2 seasons. For Disney, I think they're more concerned with hours of story rather than arbitrary numbers with episodes/seasons.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 9, 2021 11:32:03 GMT -5
I don't think Disney is intending to create multiple season long series just a one and done type deal. Basically like Wandavision and I think it will be the same for both Star Wars and Marvel. I imagine Falcon/Winter Solider won't get a season 2 nor will Loki. For Star Wars we already know Obi-Wan is one season. Andor might cap out at 12 episodes as well and I can't see Lando going on for too long either. Mando is probably the only exception as it started before all this and they seem to want to tell a bigger story. The other Filoniverse shows like Ahsoka and Rangers, I could see two seasons but once they do the Thrawn endgame or whatever, that'll probably be it for them too. Idk about Book of Boba because I feel like that may be more separate from the other three shows and not be a part of the endgame crossover. I've also heard some things about Favreau getting fed up with the Mando drama and just moving on with Boba but who knows. As for Bad Batch yeah I can definitely see it being a short run but on the other hand I could see about Rebels length too. I think animation is more flexible I agree that a lot of them will be single seasons, but I think some of the series will vary. Loki already has a second season in development, for instance. Since Bad Batch is animated, I expected several seasons, but if we're getting 14+ episodes as rumored, it might only be 1-2 seasons. For Disney, I think they're more concerned with hours of story rather than arbitrary numbers with episodes/seasons. Oh I didn't know Loki is getting a season 2. I assumed a short run as Tom Hiddleston is more of a movie actor and might be expensive. Plus from the trailers, the story seems kind of weird for it to be stretched out too much but truthfully I haven't really paid much attention to it so I'm not too knowledgeable
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 12, 2021 12:28:48 GMT -5
I agree that a lot of them will be single seasons, but I think some of the series will vary. Loki already has a second season in development, for instance. Since Bad Batch is animated, I expected several seasons, but if we're getting 14+ episodes as rumored, it might only be 1-2 seasons. For Disney, I think they're more concerned with hours of story rather than arbitrary numbers with episodes/seasons. Oh I didn't know Loki is getting a season 2. I assumed a short run as Tom Hiddleston is more of a movie actor and might be expensive. Plus from the trailers, the story seems kind of weird for it to be stretched out too much but truthfully I haven't really paid much attention to it so I'm not too knowledgeable Yeah, I'm surprised about hearing that. Then again, with the bonkers premise it's got, I guess it's got the creative legs for more of it. Plus, I think a lot of big film actors are veering more towards these big television gigs as streaming services get more and more culturally relevant.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 20, 2021 16:25:01 GMT -5
I think my theory of Crosshair betraying the batch or remaining with the Empire and him being the guy leading the Elite squad was right. A description of his action figure was leaked calling him an Imperial
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 23, 2021 18:39:02 GMT -5
Another theory I think whatever clone wars skirmishes we see in the trailer are actually pre order 66 and part of the outer rim sieges. There is a shot in the Old Friends Not Forgotten intro with a scene that looks like the same location as one of the battles from bad batch with a bunch of shiny clones. I think it would make a lot of sense if this show started just before order 66.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 24, 2021 14:46:24 GMT -5
Another theory I think whatever clone wars skirmishes we see in the trailer are actually pre order 66 and part of the outer rim sieges. There is a shot in the Old Friends Not Forgotten intro with a scene that looks like the same location as one of the battles from bad batch with a bunch of shiny clones. I think it would make a lot of sense if this show started just before order 66. I very much suspect an opening prologue prior to Order 66 happening. Just to sort of frame how clones handled the aftermath of such an event.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2021 15:55:22 GMT -5
Another theory I think whatever clone wars skirmishes we see in the trailer are actually pre order 66 and part of the outer rim sieges. There is a shot in the Old Friends Not Forgotten intro with a scene that looks like the same location as one of the battles from bad batch with a bunch of shiny clones. I think it would make a lot of sense if this show started just before order 66. I very much suspect an opening prologue prior to Order 66 happening. Just to sort of frame how clones handled the aftermath of such an event. I heard the opening episode will be a lost TCW arc that features the Bad Batch... so yeah probably.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 30, 2021 15:55:46 GMT -5
So this is airing in Tuesday? They haven't really been pushing it too much I guess... haven't seen any videos or trailers for it in a few months.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 30, 2021 21:16:33 GMT -5
So this is airing in Tuesday? They haven't really been pushing it too much I guess... haven't seen any videos or trailers for it in a few months. I think there's been a couple promos here and there but yeah honestly most of the time it feels like they barely do any marketing for Star Wars I think this may be the best May 4th in a long time though... Bad Batch, possibly Detours (I'll keep expectations low and not expect an episode but maybe some news at least), and lots of toys. It'd be amazing if there's some surprise news as well like something on the video game front or something
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 1, 2021 8:40:59 GMT -5
I very much suspect an opening prologue prior to Order 66 happening. Just to sort of frame how clones handled the aftermath of such an event. I heard the opening episode will be a lost TCW arc that features the Bad Batch... so yeah probably. Oh yeah, wasn't that a Kashyyyk arc with Yoda?
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 1, 2021 8:43:18 GMT -5
So this is airing in Tuesday? They haven't really been pushing it too much I guess... haven't seen any videos or trailers for it in a few months. I think there's been a couple promos here and there but yeah honestly most of the time it feels like they barely do any marketing for Star Wars I think this may be the best May 4th in a long time though... Bad Batch, possibly Detours (I'll keep expectations low and not expect an episode but maybe some news at least), and lots of toys. It'd be amazing if there's some surprise news as well like something on the video game front or something Either they don't want to fork out the cash for marketing unless it's something major, or they just think the Star Wars name is all the marketing they need. Still, I agree this looks like one of the better ones. I mean if Detours is released as well that'd be a delightful bonus I'm also thinking we might get a release date announcement for the Lego Star Wars game, so don't be disappointed about lack of game news just yet
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Post by Star on May 1, 2021 11:08:58 GMT -5
These are apparently the leaked runtimes for the first 3 eps. Looks like they're aiming for 25-30 mins on average (excluding the premiere), which is nice. Makes the storytelling more natural when not having to stick to a standard 22 min slot.
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2021 15:08:00 GMT -5
Oh yeah I think there's rumors of the Cut and Run episode including Cut Laquane the deserter. That'll be interesting if true. It really seems like this show will be giving us answers to many questions fans have had over the years. I expect to see stuff like Wolffe and Gregor explained as well
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Post by Kenbo on May 3, 2021 12:00:13 GMT -5
Didn’t consider this before but maybe Echo will execute order 66 while the rest of the batch don’t. Although who knows maybe his chip could’ve been damaged after the Citadel. Guess we’ll find out tomorrow lol. I thought maybe they’d explain Omega in this but maybe she(?)’s not a permanent character or they’re keeping them secret
Very excited for tomorrow lots of cool stuff, sadly I have an exam... Also I know no one cares but bruh I’m not looking forward to moderating my Reddit sub tomorrow... Hate when I have to moderate posts from excited and overwhelmed people when I am excited and overwhelmed myself. Also the spoilers will be annoying
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Post by Star on May 3, 2021 13:43:55 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they're setting up Omega as a recurring character alongside the Bad Batch. Never really a huge fan of injecting 'kids' into stories like this, but maybe Omega will add a cool contrast to the clones.
The show's crew also stated that the first season will be 16 episodes.
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Post by Pinda on May 4, 2021 8:29:08 GMT -5
Hmm, I guess this released early. It was alright... but nothing special. I wonder why they made the new Grievous model though... is he going to return in some future content (not Bad Batch hopefully, let's not revive another villain please).
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Post by Kenbo on May 4, 2021 8:55:55 GMT -5
I think it was a solid premiere. I agree with Pinda, nothing mind blowing, but I think it was good Star Wars. Incorporating Kanan was nice (even though he didn't sound like a 12 year old at all...) but if I'm honest, that order 66 sequence didn't really have that much emotional weight imo. I guess it was kinda short without much build up but I'm also wondering if we see too many order 66 scenes if they will lose their significance...
I was secretly hoping for something with Anakin or Coruscant but it makes sense we wouldn't see that. Although the Invisible Hand sequences were an unexpected treat so I guess I'll take it lol. Omega was not annoying as I was worried she might be. The stuff with Saw happened really fast I think he definitely needs to come back. I think the beginning was definitely better and then eventually it became a little less interesting but still I'm looking forward to more. I really want to see them go to Bracca and meet Cal Kestis...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 4, 2021 11:43:09 GMT -5
lol Kanan's voice break has the be the funniest part about this. Any intended humour fell flat, but this was unintentional gold Really it was the best they could do with such a weak idea. The main cast still just feels like a bag of cliches and stereotypes, but it at least knows when to keep their surroundings interesting. Showing the aftermath of the Clone Wars right at Kamino and getting to know the earliest days of the Empire from within its army is cool. That said the whole foodfight/fisticuffs felt kinda cringe and pointless. Didn't expect Crosshair to jump ship that early though. That said they couldn't have picked a more painfully obvious member to go down that route. Also, mark my words, foreshadowing Omega as Force sensitive was so strong you'd hardly get my winnings on making that kind of bet I do sort of wonder how they're going to keep this ball rolling for 16 episodes though. I guess it all depends on the guest stars they've got lined up. Really, it was just okay. Nothing that incredible, but nothing that bad either.
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Post by Pinda on May 4, 2021 15:18:45 GMT -5
My main complaint is, like Mav said, that these characters are cliche stereotypes... and I think Hunter especially kind of looks ridiculous.
Also I think I found an error in this episode. Tech tells the other clones the Kaminoan woman told Tarkin there were 5 defective clones and since Echo isn't one of them that means Omega is... The problem is that Tech wasn't there when Tarkin and the Kaminoans had that conversation...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 4, 2021 16:42:37 GMT -5
My main complaint is, like Mav said, that these characters are cliche stereotypes... and I think Hunter especially kind of looks ridiculous. Also I think I found an error in this episode. Tech tells the other clones the Kaminoan woman told Tarkin there were 5 defective clones and since Echo isn't one of them that means Omega is... The problem is that Tech wasn't there when Tarkin and the Kaminoans had that conversation... He's a Rambo cosplay clone with a half skull tattoo (or camo paint?). If that's not ridiculous I don't know what is Yeah, I noticed that too. He wasn't even spying, so either there's something we're not getting, or that's a major writing bullet in the foot...
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Post by Kenbo on May 4, 2021 18:45:43 GMT -5
My main complaint is, like Mav said, that these characters are cliche stereotypes... and I think Hunter especially kind of looks ridiculous. Also I think I found an error in this episode. Tech tells the other clones the Kaminoan woman told Tarkin there were 5 defective clones and since Echo isn't one of them that means Omega is... The problem is that Tech wasn't there when Tarkin and the Kaminoans had that conversation... Tbh they've kinda grown on me. Still not super interesting but I don't mind them. I guess Hunter is probably my "favorite" in the group. As for the plot hole, I don't really remember that part I'll have to watch it again. But maybe since he's always on his datapad he found like a logged conversation or something idk
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 20:54:38 GMT -5
Honestly I quite like it... and these characters are growing on me like Kenobi said. Hunter is honestly my favorite, but I like Crosshair too, I think it’s pretty obvious that probably by the end of this season they will remove the chip and he will join up with them again. I’m gonna guess Rex will tell them more about the chips.
I didn’t think the inclusion of Saw felt forced either, seemed like a Tarkin thing to do since the Batch could easily have taken them all out if they wanted. And I don’t find Omega that annoying, she seems interesting but she’s definitely force sensitive, the cool thing about her being a clone though is that she will have accelerated growth, maybe even more so than normal clones if she’s even more genetically enhanced so she could grow up quite fast in these seasons.
But honestly I think this was better than most of season 7 of TCW including the final 2 episodes... this is a great time period for a show imo
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 20:55:07 GMT -5
Do we know when new episodes release? I assume it’s fridays right and they just did today for May 4th?
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 20:56:47 GMT -5
Honestly the animation is really good, like on that first planet I really noticed an improvement in the environment (trees and stuff)
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 20:58:26 GMT -5
IMDb says next episode is Friday and it has the last episode on August 13th? They have 16 episodes which lines up with Rebels seasons I guess. And the first episode was basically almost 4 episodes
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 21:04:30 GMT -5
I really hope we see more droid remnants going forward and not just empire and stuff.
But honestly the fact that this will be a more linear storyline might be good in the sense that it leaves room for more content in this time period like underworld and stuff. With TCW you can’t really go back and make another show between episodes 2 and 3 because TCW is much more inclusive to all plot lines
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Post by Newan on May 4, 2021 21:56:40 GMT -5
My main complaint is, like Mav said, that these characters are cliche stereotypes... and I think Hunter especially kind of looks ridiculous. Also I think I found an error in this episode. Tech tells the other clones the Kaminoan woman told Tarkin there were 5 defective clones and since Echo isn't one of them that means Omega is... The problem is that Tech wasn't there when Tarkin and the Kaminoans had that conversation... My main complaint is, like Mav said, that these characters are cliche stereotypes... and I think Hunter especially kind of looks ridiculous. Also I think I found an error in this episode. Tech tells the other clones the Kaminoan woman told Tarkin there were 5 defective clones and since Echo isn't one of them that means Omega is... The problem is that Tech wasn't there when Tarkin and the Kaminoans had that conversation... He's a Rambo cosplay clone with a half skull tattoo (or camo paint?). If that's not ridiculous I don't know what is Yeah, I noticed that too. He wasn't even spying, so either there's something we're not getting, or that's a major writing bullet in the foot... I actually rewatched, this isn’t a mistake. Yes Tarkin has a conversation with the doctor and prime minister but later when Tarkin address the squad he says “Nala sae speakers very highly of her 5 enhanced clones, she says you are more capable than an army”. Somehow this fooled Tarkin cause Echo isn’t enhanced.
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