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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 14:29:07 GMT -5
So far I’m going to say:
Episode 1: 9/10
Episode 2: 7/10
Episode 3: 8/10
The lore stuff is pretty accurate, although for new watchers it might be confusing with names and locations. For me it’s fluid though.
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Post by Pinda on Dec 21, 2019 15:06:59 GMT -5
Hmm episode 3 confirms Yennifer stuff is in the past cause the episode 1 Queen is referred to as princess Yeah that's what I meant. Also I guess it confirmed Geralt's story in that episode is set at around the same time as that of Ciri because King Foltest is a child in Yennifer's story, but kind of old in Geralt's. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 21, 2019 15:25:26 GMT -5
Imagine if the Mandalorian was like this show. Both have a sort of stoic mercenary type guy as the main character who goes around from place to place doing odd jobs. Yet this is way better lol
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 15:42:07 GMT -5
Hmm episode 3 confirms Yennifer stuff is in the past cause the episode 1 Queen is referred to as princess Yeah that's what I meant. Also I guess it confirmed Geralt's story in that episode is set at around the same time as that of Ciri because King Foltest is a child in Yennifer's story, but kind of old in Geralt's. Geralts old though, could be near the same age as Foltest despite not looking like it. Yennifer story in episode 4 is now at the same time as Ciri it appears. Although Geralts is confirmed in the past in episode 4. Ciri isn’t born in Geralts story yet, Ciris mother is just getting married |
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 15:43:03 GMT -5
Episode 4 is probably a 7/10, could be an 8 but I didn’t like the party all that much, Geralt is always out of his element. But this episode was huge for story and explanations
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 15:52:41 GMT -5
Actually Yen might not be caught up to Ciri yet....
According to reddit it seems Yen’s timeline is probably 40-50 years before Ciri which will make her around 70 years old in Ciri timeline.
Geralts after episode 4 seems to tell us it’s about 14-17 years before Ciri which in Ciri timeline that’s gonna make Geralt in his mid- late 60s like I said earlier.
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 15:55:09 GMT -5
I knew as a fan that the timelines were messed up from episode 1, Fall of Cintra and Butcher of Blavikan gave that away for me. But I feel like this is confusing to newcomers, thoughts?
Although maybe people enjoy putting together the pieces. Technically the first chronological book (The Last Wish) is a collection of stories rather than a fluid plot.
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 16:55:41 GMT -5
Episode 5 was a very good blend of side adventure into main story. Going to say 8/10 for this one.
I like that every episode kind of starts off on a clean slate but then something ties into the main story. Like reddit said it looks like these final episodes are going to all wrap together nicely. Two of the plot lines have now come together.
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Post by Newan on Dec 21, 2019 16:56:08 GMT -5
Anyways I’ll watch the last 3 tonight.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 21, 2019 18:06:25 GMT -5
I finished 4 and yeah I'm a little confused. So could you say Yennifer is past, Geralt present, and Ciri future? But it feels like we saw an old Yennifer as well since she said she's been serving for 30 years
Nilfgaard being a joke at the wedding thing was pretty interesting. Wonder what happens to them. It's like be careful who you call ugly in middle school lmao
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Post by Pinda on Dec 21, 2019 19:54:41 GMT -5
Yeah that's what I meant. Also I guess it confirmed Geralt's story in that episode is set at around the same time as that of Ciri because King Foltest is a child in Yennifer's story, but kind of old in Geralt's. Geralts old though, could be near the same age as Foltest despite not looking like it. Yennifer story in episode 4 is now at the same time as Ciri it appears. Although Geralts is confirmed in the past in episode 4. Ciri isn’t born in Geralts story yet, Ciris mother is just getting married My point was that Foltest appeared in both Yennifer's and Geralt's stories in episode 3. But he was a child in the former and an old man in the latter. So there were like 40-50ish years between those events. Seems like Yennifer's story moved on in time though. |
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Post by Pinda on Dec 21, 2019 19:57:05 GMT -5
I finished 4 and yeah I'm a little confused. So could you say Yennifer is past, Geralt present, and Ciri future? But it feels like we saw an old Yennifer as well since she said she's been serving for 30 years Nilfgaard being a joke at the wedding thing was pretty interesting. Wonder what happens to them. It's like be careful who you call ugly in middle school lmao Yeah Yennifer's story seems to have skipped some time in episode 4 and Geralt is probably like 18ish years before Ciri. I like that Calanthe roasted that Nilfgaard guy... kind of paints that war in a different light. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 21, 2019 21:58:36 GMT -5
Finished the season Damn that was quite enjoyable. The time skips were a bit confusing especially since half the characters seem like they don't age lol. I am glad Geralt and Ciri found each other at the end I thought they were gonna drag that out more. But I am still confused Geralt was shouting Yen's name on the battlefield but was that another hallucination as well? I hope Ciri is not a hallucination
Cahir was pretty interesting even though we didn't see much of him. I hope he's expanded more in season 2. Also can we talk about how pretty Geralt and Yennefer's eyes are wtf lol
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 21, 2019 22:03:41 GMT -5
Kinda want to get the game now tbh. Witcher 3 I mean. But since I watched the show first I feel like I'll just want things to be like the show and be disappointed when they aren't...
Also what is the potion he keeps drinking that gives him the black eyes and shit? Some kind of health buff?
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 0:44:13 GMT -5
Kinda want to get the game now tbh. Witcher 3 I mean. But since I watched the show first I feel like I'll just want things to be like the show and be disappointed when they aren't... Also what is the potion he keeps drinking that gives him the black eyes and shit? Some kind of health buff? All Witcher potions do that, he’s taken various ones so far. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 1:46:56 GMT -5
Oh cool, they adapted the Villentretenmerth story into the show, that was always a good one since it builds Yen and Geralt a lot.
Also we got to see the first appearance of Zoltan this episode (bald, bearded dwarf). So now we have seen most of Geralts closer friends, Yen, Triss, Zoltan, Dandelion, Ciri. I guess what’s left is mainly his Witcher buddies and his mentor Vesimir. Although I doubt we see him this season, he was mentioned in episode 1 though,
Anyways I really liked this episode, I’m gonna say 9/10.
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 1:51:08 GMT -5
I also really like how they make it clear that Geralt and usually Witcher’s in general don’t kill sentient beings. So Dragons, Dopplers, Succubus, Higher Vampires, etc
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 2:38:32 GMT -5
Episode 7 was also great, everything came together very nicely there. Going to say 9/10 for that one as well. {Spoiler}I’m guessing in the present Geralt has been chasing Ciri for awhile. Kind of like the start of Witcher 3.
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:08:54 GMT -5
Finished the season Damn that was quite enjoyable. The time skips were a bit confusing especially since half the characters seem like they don't age lol. I am glad Geralt and Ciri found each other at the end I thought they were gonna drag that out more. But I am still confused Geralt was shouting Yen's name on the battlefield but was that another hallucination as well? I hope Ciri is not a hallucination
Cahir was pretty interesting even though we didn't see much of him. I hope he's expanded more in season 2. Also can we talk about how pretty Geralt and Yennefer's eyes are wtf lol
No that shouldn’t be an illusion there at the end. Geralt and Ciri are bound together for life. Ciri basically sees him as her father later in the lore. And Yennifer is basically her mother because Geralt and Yen are also bound together due to “The Last Wish” by the Djin. That’s why they were stressing this whole Yennifer wanting a child so much this season because Ciri is essentially their adoptive daughter. Geralt and Yen are destined to be together although they do fight a lot.
I’m guessing for season 2 Geralt will take Ciri to Kaer Morhan (school of the Wolf) to start being trained by Vesemir. Ciri should eventually undergo some mutations but won’t become a full Witcher.
In the lore only 3/10 boys survive the Trial of the Grasses and to get the white hair mutation Geralt has is another 1/10 on top of that. Which means his mutation is a once in several centuries occurrence, as you can see from my profile picture Ciri also has the same mutation, further reference that they are linked by destiny. |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:15:17 GMT -5
I liked the finale a lot, I was very satisfied with the ending there and I think the season really comes together in the last 3 episodes. Honestly it’s beautifully crafted, a strategy like this shouldn’t work out but here it does....
I liked that Emperor Emhyr was actually mentioned (he’s the real ruler of Nilfgard). One thing I didn’t like was how brutish Nilfgards soldiers were... they should be more sophisticated then this but at the same time they are very aggressive and take no prisoners.
This show did a very good job dropping little hints to set up the future plots, The Wild Hunt, Kaer Morhan, Vesemir. Skellige, etc to name a few.
Shame we have to wait over a year for next season. It’s not really 2 years like Pinda said, they are expecting season 2 around February 2021 is the current estimate. They are actually filming season 2 now apparently. But I can appreciate that every episode is an hour long, even with that 47 min episode there were multiple episodes just over an hour so it equals out to about 8 hours of viewing. The Mandalorian with 8 episodes probably doesn’t crack 5.5 but I could be wrong there, didn’t crunch the numbers.
I figured season 1 of this show would be kind of rough cause it’s a lot of setup a names but they handled it much better than I had anticipated, especially with a lot of negative press early on.
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:20:14 GMT -5
Kinda want to get the game now tbh. Witcher 3 I mean. But since I watched the show first I feel like I'll just want things to be like the show and be disappointed when they aren't... Also what is the potion he keeps drinking that gives him the black eyes and shit? Some kind of health buff? Buy Witcher 3, the GOTY edition is on sale on probably every platform right now due to the launch of the show. It was hard for me to get into the combat at first but once I did I was addicted to finishing the game and most of its stories. It’s probably my favorite single player game of all time and a contender for my favorite overall. Honestly the games portray the books well and so does the show, it shouldn’t be that weird for you after watching the show. Trailer from 6 years ago uses the same line from the show anyways.... |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:28:22 GMT -5
After watching that last trailer again I do wish we got to see more of Geralts expert tracking and monster identification on display more...
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:30:35 GMT -5
Anyways total review count I’ll say
Episode 1: 9/10
Episode 2: 7/10
Episode 3: 8/10
Episode 4: 7/10
Episode 5: 8/10
Episode 6: 9/10
Episode 7: 9/10
Episode 8: 9/10
I don’t think there were any “perfect” episodes although I almost want to give episode 8 a 10 just for the well put together final scene.
Final score 66/80 or 82%
I think 8 overall is pretty fair, IMDB has this at a 9 from voters. A lot of critics have this show at like a 6 though which is absurd to me? I do indeed like The Mandalorian for what it is but this show can’t be a 6 while Mando gets a 9 from the same people. Actually I saw one reddit post that said the reviewers skipped half the season of the Witcher and then gave this show a bad score... I think critics are comparing to GoT too much, fans don’t want GoT for this show, they want monsters and magic and shit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/ed9mo5/entertainment_weekly_watched_the_witcher_till/
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 4:40:01 GMT -5
www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_witcherwww.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_mandalorian/s01Not sure I understand... yeah I understand the audience scores, those are reasonable. But the critics are just way out of touch imo. I do agree some some critics that the story is a bit fast paced... this could have been 10 episodes like most GoT seasons and would likely have been better off for it. Even if there was an extra filler episode in there with a monster hunt or something.
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 22, 2019 10:25:48 GMT -5
So the Ciri search is in the first game? I'm not really interested in getting the first two games because I don't really like playing old stuff lol. But that story interested me the most I was reading some more stuff on the wiki, So Duny is actually Emhyr that's crazy. I guess that's why Nilfgaard wants Ciri
Tbh I thought Cahir was the true heir who overthrew the usurper but I guess he's just a general. I didn't listen closely enough to the names. I really want to see Emhyr in season 2 now |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 12:37:27 GMT -5
So the Ciri search is in the first game? I'm not really interested in getting the first two games because I don't really like playing old stuff lol. But that story interested me the most I was reading some more stuff on the wiki, So Duny is actually Emhyr that's crazy. I guess that's why Nilfgaard wants Ciri
Tbh I thought Cahir was the true heir who overthrew the usurper but I guess he's just a general. I didn't listen closely enough to the names. I really want to see Emhyr in season 2 now Yeah Emhyr is Ciris biological father. But the search for Ciri after she vanishes is in Witcher 3. Geralt and Yennifer kind of die at one point and then Ciri is missing for like 3 years. Then the Wild Hunt pursue her for her power. |
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Post by Kenbo on Dec 22, 2019 13:03:41 GMT -5
So the Ciri search is in the first game? I'm not really interested in getting the first two games because I don't really like playing old stuff lol. But that story interested me the most I was reading some more stuff on the wiki, So Duny is actually Emhyr that's crazy. I guess that's why Nilfgaard wants Ciri
Tbh I thought Cahir was the true heir who overthrew the usurper but I guess he's just a general. I didn't listen closely enough to the names. I really want to see Emhyr in season 2 now Yeah Emhyr is Ciris biological father. But the search for Ciri after she vanishes is in Witcher 3. Geralt and Yennifer kind of die at one point and then Ciri is missing for like 3 years. Then the Wild Hunt pursue her for her power. Well I meant the search that we see in the show. So I was asking if the show's plot is mostly from first game. I think the show is actually more based on the books than the games anyway. But since I don't like reading I would rather play the game lol |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 14:57:28 GMT -5
Yeah Emhyr is Ciris biological father. But the search for Ciri after she vanishes is in Witcher 3. Geralt and Yennifer kind of die at one point and then Ciri is missing for like 3 years. Then the Wild Hunt pursue her for her power. Well I meant the search that we see in the show. So I was asking if the show's plot is mostly from first game. I think the show is actually more based on the books than the games anyway. But since I don't like reading I would rather play the game lol The plot in this show is based on the books. But Witcher 3 is great, play it lol |
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Post by Newan on Dec 22, 2019 15:02:07 GMT -5
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/ee4jfx/a_useful_timeline_the_witcher_netflix/
Episode timeline
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Post by Pinda on Dec 25, 2019 20:13:36 GMT -5
I just finished the season (got delayed a bit by a two day trip with my girlfriend and Christmas). I definitely like this show... It is not like early GOT. But still possibly the best show that seems to be airing at the moment. It does get a bit confusing at times though. Not everything is properly explained. I feel like unlike GOT this show fails to properly explain the world it takes place in to the audience that is unfamiliar with the source materials (and the games in this case). I never had trouble understanding the magic or politics in GOT, while there is plenty I do not understand in the Witcher.
Nevertheless it is a fun show. I am looking forward to season 2. And I might just play the third game at some point.
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 