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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 27, 2015 18:40:45 GMT -5
The movie was intended to be a part of the show, not a feature film. Lucas thought it was an excellent idea after months of hardwork to create 4 separate episodes that it was okay to just jumble them all together and put it into the movie theaters which results in muddled storylines, and confusing cut scenes, rushing, etc. Yeah, it was cash grab by Lucas. Lucas's cash grabs always seem to lower quality of everything they touch. He's not very good at directing, writing, and decision making independently. He shoots down other ideas, and fires people who don't agree with him (What he did with the prequels). His daughter however, he can't fire his own daughter, and she pitched wrote and directed the best episodes and storylines ever. Filoni isn't great either. He has good ideas, but chooses childish themes and dialogue and storylines, over maturity.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 18:42:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it was cash grab by Lucas. Lucas's cash grabs always seem to lower quality of everything they touch. He's not very good at directing, writing, and decision making independently. He shoots down other ideas, and fires people who don't agree with him (What he did with the prequels). His daughter however, he can't fire his own daughter, and she pitched wrote and directed the best episodes and storylines ever. Filoni isn't great either. He has good ideas, but chooses childish themes and dialogue and storylines, over maturity. I just hate how he kind of made SW seem all kiddy. It really wasn't for the first two films. But then he decided to make it all kiddy with Ewoks and cheesy endings so he could sell more toys.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jul 27, 2015 18:47:17 GMT -5
He's not very good at directing, writing, and decision making independently. He shoots down other ideas, and fires people who don't agree with him (What he did with the prequels). His daughter however, he can't fire his own daughter, and she pitched wrote and directed the best episodes and storylines ever. Filoni isn't great either. He has good ideas, but chooses childish themes and dialogue and storylines, over maturity. I just hate how he kind of made SW seem all kiddy. It really wasn't for the first two films. But then he decided to make it all kiddy with Ewoks and cheesy endings so he could sell more toys. The third is the only non kiddy/happy one. That actually had a mature topic "mass genocide". Which I'm surprised was allowed.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 18:55:09 GMT -5
I just hate how he kind of made SW seem all kiddy. It really wasn't for the first two films. But then he decided to make it all kiddy with Ewoks and cheesy endings so he could sell more toys. The third is the only non kiddy/happy one. That actually had a mature topic "mass genocide". Which I'm surprised was allowed. Well like ANH and TESB were actually pretty mature. And then ROTJ ruins everything because it's shit.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 27, 2015 18:57:57 GMT -5
The third is the only non kiddy/happy one. That actually had a mature topic "mass genocide". Which I'm surprised was allowed. Well like ANH and TESB were actually pretty mature. And then ROTJ ruins everything because it's Potato Rules. They weren't really all that mature or at least didn't seem that mature because of the time they were made and whatnot.. But Star Wars is supposed to be a family thing so you shouldn't expect it to get super mature and dark
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 19:12:38 GMT -5
Well like ANH and TESB were actually pretty mature. And then ROTJ ruins everything because it's Potato Rules. They weren't really all that mature or at least didn't seem that mature because of the time they were made and whatnot.. But Star Wars is supposed to be a family thing so you shouldn't expect it to get super mature and dark If I were a crueler person I would link a picture of Owen and Beru's corpses.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 27, 2015 19:20:03 GMT -5
They weren't really all that mature or at least didn't seem that mature because of the time they were made and whatnot.. But Star Wars is supposed to be a family thing so you shouldn't expect it to get super mature and dark If I were a crueler person I would link a picture of Owen and Beru's corpses. Well first off it wasn't that vivid like when I first watched ANH I didn't even notice the corpses.... But also it doesn't really matter Star Wars in general is regarded as a family movie (series) even if it has some relatively "violent" content
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 19:20:36 GMT -5
If I were a crueler person I would link a picture of Owen and Beru's corpses. Well first off it wasn't that vivid like when I first watched ANH I didn't even notice the corpses.... But also it doesn't really matter Star Wars in general is regarded as a family movie (series) even if it has some relatively "violent" content Thanks to GL in ROTJ.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 27, 2015 19:21:26 GMT -5
Well first off it wasn't that vivid like when I first watched ANH I didn't even notice the corpses.... But also it doesn't really matter Star Wars in general is regarded as a family movie (series) even if it has some relatively "violent" content Thanks to GL in ROTJ. Okay
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 19:22:24 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 19:52:36 GMT -5
So the way this will work is that every episode will be up three days and then we go to the nest one.
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Post by Newan on Jul 27, 2015 21:09:48 GMT -5
Clone wars doesn't have violent content really, droids are not violent
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 21:48:37 GMT -5
Clone wars doesn't have violent content really, droids are not violent A droid did this but it was still violent.
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Post by Newan on Jul 27, 2015 21:55:37 GMT -5
Clone wars doesn't have violent content really, droids are not violent A droid did this but it was still violent. More like stupid
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Post by Potato on Jul 27, 2015 21:56:00 GMT -5
TCW is not supposed to be a deeper meaning, extremely complex show. It's supposed to be a fun cartoon about Star Wars. So whenever I watch it, I don't watch it and expect Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. I just expect to have fun and enjoy Star Wars. And it does that just fine. That's why I really love TCW; while it's not exactly "the best" show I've watched, it's one of the most entertaining.
The movie itself was okay, but I'm not sure if I can fully judge it since it's been at least a few years since I last saw it. I remember seeing it in theaters back in 2008 and being a bit put off by it. I then never really got into the series until Season 2 (and at that point I had caught up with Season 1 and loved it). The movie should have just been a TV movie or something though.
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Post by Newan on Jul 27, 2015 22:24:35 GMT -5
Yeah it's entertaining I think and a large part is the amount of excess money thrown at it by GL. If the stories where in comics or books they really wouldn't be that great
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 27, 2015 22:30:35 GMT -5
Yeah it's entertaining I think and a large part is the amount of excess money thrown at it by GL. If the stories where in comics or books they really wouldn't be that great Except Fives
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 30, 2015 19:14:56 GMT -5
I'm going with good on this one. It might not have been the best episode of the season, but it was a strong enough first episode. Yoda talking to the clones in the cave was really fun. Even though it was kinda predictable, it never felt cheesy or dumb.
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 30, 2015 19:20:46 GMT -5
Boring tbh I think malevolence would've been a good premiere..
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Post by Spidyyr on Jul 30, 2015 20:08:05 GMT -5
Boring tbh I think malevolence would've been a good premiere.. well they had "Rising Malevolence" air right after it.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jul 31, 2015 5:38:15 GMT -5
TCW is not supposed to be a deeper meaning, extremely complex show. It's supposed to be a fun cartoon about Star Wars. So whenever I watch it, I don't watch it and expect Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. I just expect to have fun and enjoy Star Wars. And it does that just fine. That's why I really love TCW; while it's not exactly "the best" show I've watched, it's one of the most entertaining. The movie itself was okay, but I'm not sure if I can fully judge it since it's been at least a few years since I last saw it. I remember seeing it in theaters back in 2008 and being a bit put off by it. I then never really got into the series until Season 2 (and at that point I had caught up with Season 1 and loved it). The movie should have just been a TV movie or something though. I disagree. Clone Wars is not just an entertaining Star Wars show. The deep story and complexitity is there (especially in S4 and forward) But becuase Clone Wars is episodic they can focus on different takes in each episode. One epsiode can be extremely heavy while the second can be very action packed. That is the entertaining part of the show. But the deepness and complexity is all there through character and development.
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Post by Potato on Jul 31, 2015 10:27:53 GMT -5
TCW is not supposed to be a deeper meaning, extremely complex show. It's supposed to be a fun cartoon about Star Wars. So whenever I watch it, I don't watch it and expect Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. I just expect to have fun and enjoy Star Wars. And it does that just fine. That's why I really love TCW; while it's not exactly "the best" show I've watched, it's one of the most entertaining. The movie itself was okay, but I'm not sure if I can fully judge it since it's been at least a few years since I last saw it. I remember seeing it in theaters back in 2008 and being a bit put off by it. I then never really got into the series until Season 2 (and at that point I had caught up with Season 1 and loved it). The movie should have just been a TV movie or something though. I disagree. Clone Wars is not just an entertaining Star Wars show. The deep story and complexitity is there (especially in S4 and forward) But becuase Clone Wars is episodic they can focus on different takes in each episode. One epsiode can be extremely heavy while the second can be very action packed. That is the entertaining part of the show. But the deepness and complexity is all there through character and development. TCW is an extremely simple show compared to most of the other things on TV. It's mainly because of the 22 minute run time.
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Post by Newan on Jul 31, 2015 13:43:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't say this show is very complex or deep either mainly just entertaining
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Post by Pinda on Jul 31, 2015 14:34:34 GMT -5
TCW is not supposed to be a deeper meaning, extremely complex show. It's supposed to be a fun cartoon about Star Wars. So whenever I watch it, I don't watch it and expect Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. I just expect to have fun and enjoy Star Wars. And it does that just fine. That's why I really love TCW; while it's not exactly "the best" show I've watched, it's one of the most entertaining. The movie itself was okay, but I'm not sure if I can fully judge it since it's been at least a few years since I last saw it. I remember seeing it in theaters back in 2008 and being a bit put off by it. I then never really got into the series until Season 2 (and at that point I had caught up with Season 1 and loved it). The movie should have just been a TV movie or something though. I disagree. Clone Wars is not just an entertaining Star Wars show. The deep story and complexitity is there (especially in S4 and forward) But becuase Clone Wars is episodic they can focus on different takes in each episode. One epsiode can be extremely heavy while the second can be very action packed. That is the entertaining part of the show. But the deepness and complexity is all there through character and development. It has good stories and some of them are pretty complex (Mortis arc, Yoda arc) but most of it is pretty straight-forward. The stories are good and entertaining to watch but it isn't all that complicated or has deep hidden meanings, unlike series like Game of Thrones, Sherlock or Legend of Korra.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 31, 2015 14:34:55 GMT -5
I think Ambush was the second best episode in season 1. So I will rate it "Good".
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Post by Star on Jul 31, 2015 18:23:56 GMT -5
For an animated show, TCW is one of the best, darkest, and most complex shows out there. It's also pretty emotional at times. However, when comparing it to everything, it's not as impressive. Instead, it just comes across as more entertaining. It's still a good show, but not nearly as intense as many others out there.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Aug 1, 2015 16:36:13 GMT -5
I disagree. Clone Wars is not just an entertaining Star Wars show. The deep story and complexitity is there (especially in S4 and forward) But becuase Clone Wars is episodic they can focus on different takes in each episode. One epsiode can be extremely heavy while the second can be very action packed. That is the entertaining part of the show. But the deepness and complexity is all there through character and development. TCW is an extremely simple show compared to most of the other things on TV. It's mainly because of the 22 minute run time. "Compared" This is where it goes wrong. You should never compare something ever, especially series that aren't even in the same genre. Each show has its own thing to strive towards wich means that every show has its own meaning of depth and complexity. It seems a lot of people aren't looking deep enough into this show.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 1, 2015 16:58:31 GMT -5
I think it is somewhat deep like it showed some betrayal plots like in Hidden Enemy and some revenge stuff with Maul. But those were still fairly simple. I think a big thing was you kind of knew what would happen next... Like with Anakin and Obi-Wan, they were never really in any danger since you knew they'd be in ROTS. And most plots were pretty predictable as well... There wasn't a lot of suspense in TCW which I think is one of the main problems here
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Post by Spidyyr on Aug 1, 2015 17:52:43 GMT -5
I think it is somewhat deep like it showed some betrayal plots like in Hidden Enemy and some revenge stuff with Maul. But those were still fairly simple. I think a big thing was you kind of knew what would happen next... Like with Anakin and Obi-Wan, they were never really in any danger since you knew they'd be in ROTS. And most plots were pretty predictable as well... There wasn't a lot of suspense in TCW which I think is one of the main problems here I thought it was suspenseful when the focus was on Rex, Ahsoka, Fives, or other characters who could die.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 1, 2015 17:57:52 GMT -5
I think it is somewhat deep like it showed some betrayal plots like in Hidden Enemy and some revenge stuff with Maul. But those were still fairly simple. I think a big thing was you kind of knew what would happen next... Like with Anakin and Obi-Wan, they were never really in any danger since you knew they'd be in ROTS. And most plots were pretty predictable as well... There wasn't a lot of suspense in TCW which I think is one of the main problems here I thought it was suspenseful when the focus was on Rex, Ahsoka, Fives, or other characters who could die. Yeah but the plots were still fairly predictable
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