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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 8, 2018 6:50:27 GMT -5
I think it's going to be an interesting film design wise, but I'm still not bothered. As for money, yes, Star Wars sells just by name alone, but considering the lack of any hype, hardly any marketing and no trailers five months out of release, I'm not sure this going to be making any big numbers. I'd be amazed if I saw this gross a billion, especially with the date its been dealt. My guess is the fact they can't feasibly make money on this, having made twice now, thus doubling the budget, caused Disney to simply pile it in the busy May crowd, so shareholders won't notice the big dip in income, what with Infinity War making DeNiro by the dump trucks.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 8, 2018 7:11:34 GMT -5
If they don't advertise it people won't know its coming. Not everyone follows the Star Wars movie news.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 8, 2018 7:15:22 GMT -5
If they don't advertise it people won't know its coming. Not everyone follows the Star Wars movie news. I can't help, but think the reason is backlash. I didn't see much, but that "Fake" leaked poster failed to get much love from what I heard. The fact that Han's being played by not only someone other than Harrison Ford, but also someone who looks nothing like him and, supposedly, needed an acting coach for most scenes, really isn't going to be totally accepted by a lot of people. I can already envision the #NotMyHan movements now  |
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Post by Star on Jan 8, 2018 9:21:00 GMT -5
I mean it's Star Wars so people will show up regardless of trailers or advertisement.... the producers know this. They don't have to release a single teaser, let alone trailer and it would still be a box office hit I bet. Of course the film would still perform well at the box office. It's Star Wars, and that name alone sells enormously. But if not advertised well (along with the other forces going against this movie), it will suffer a fair amount. It might still make $450M at the NA box office and $900M WW, but that would look especially weak compared to what we've come to expect from films in this franchise (Rouge One $532M in NA, $1.06B WW; TFA $936M in NA, $2.07B WW; TLJ [currently] $572M in NA, 1.21B WW). Unlike the MCU, I don't think Disney wants to turn Star Wars into a franchise that has most of its films perform pretty strong (i.e. $300-500M domestic and $650-950M WW) and then only have a few that are box office monsters (i.e. $550M+ domestic and well over 1.00B WW) like the Avengers. This doesn't necessarily imply "Star Wars fatigue", but Disney should take care with how it releases these films. If they remain as annual spectacles for the next several years, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, especially if they handle other aspects well. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 8, 2018 11:53:24 GMT -5
I think humans form the majority of intelligent species in the galaxy, so it doesn't bother me we see a lot of them. I hope future films can begin to incorporate more of the previously seen aliens to add a better sense of connectivity to the saga. Even with the whole Weequay = underworld scenario being mostly accurate, it seems unrealistic for the entire race to be criminals (and this concept can apply to other species and their respective environment/ stereotype too), so we should see at least one not in that setting eventually. Almost every sentient alien species comes from one planet it seems... Rodians are from Rodia, Twileks are from Ryloth, etc. Humans seem to have multiple home planets or are at least much more diversified I just want to know where Mieber Gascon is from. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 8, 2018 13:03:27 GMT -5
If they don't advertise it people won't know its coming. Not everyone follows the Star Wars movie news. They will know when the reviewers and hardcore fans start posting all over the internet and then they will go see it as well even if the reviews are not favourable because it’s the name that brings people in. Honestly Star Wars is still built off the success and greatness of the originals and people will keep going because of that alone looking for any kind of resemblance |
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Post by Newan on Jan 8, 2018 13:07:42 GMT -5
I mean it's Star Wars so people will show up regardless of trailers or advertisement.... the producers know this. They don't have to release a single teaser, let alone trailer and it would still be a box office hit I bet. Of course the film would still perform well at the box office. It's Star Wars, and that name alone sells enormously. But if not advertised well (along with the other forces going against this movie), it will suffer a fair amount. It might still make $450M at the NA box office and $900M WW, but that would look especially weak compared to what we've come to expect from films in this franchise (Rouge One $532M in NA, $1.06B WW; TFA $936M in NA, $2.07B WW; TLJ [currently] $572M in NA, 1.21B WW). Unlike the MCU, I don't think Disney wants to turn Star Wars into a franchise that has most of its films perform pretty strong (i.e. $300-500M domestic and $650-950M WW) and then only have a few that are box office monsters (i.e. $550M+ domestic and well over 1.00B WW) like the Avengers. This doesn't necessarily imply "Star Wars fatigue", but Disney should take care with how it releases these films. If they remain as annual spectacles for the next several years, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, especially if they handle other aspects well. I mean some marvel movies are with more unknown characters as well, like Ant-Man or Doctor Strange for example. Someone like Spider-Man will attract attention regardless but some of the movies are not going to be a popular with how far they are branching out. They are trying to cast big actors though to compensate for a lesser character. Now obviously Han is basically the Spider-Man of Star Wars so it should be a hit. But if they did some movie with a lesser known character, with less advertising probably wouldn’t work out |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 8, 2018 13:19:45 GMT -5
Of course the film would still perform well at the box office. It's Star Wars, and that name alone sells enormously. But if not advertised well (along with the other forces going against this movie), it will suffer a fair amount. It might still make $450M at the NA box office and $900M WW, but that would look especially weak compared to what we've come to expect from films in this franchise (Rouge One $532M in NA, $1.06B WW; TFA $936M in NA, $2.07B WW; TLJ [currently] $572M in NA, 1.21B WW). Unlike the MCU, I don't think Disney wants to turn Star Wars into a franchise that has most of its films perform pretty strong (i.e. $300-500M domestic and $650-950M WW) and then only have a few that are box office monsters (i.e. $550M+ domestic and well over 1.00B WW) like the Avengers. This doesn't necessarily imply "Star Wars fatigue", but Disney should take care with how it releases these films. If they remain as annual spectacles for the next several years, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, especially if they handle other aspects well. I mean some marvel movies are with more unknown characters as well, like Ant-Man or Doctor Strange for example. Someone like Spider-Man will attract attention regardless but some of the movies are not going to be a popular with how far they are branching out. They are trying to cast big actors though to compensate for a lesser character. Now obviously Han is basically the Spider-Man of Star Wars so it should be a hit. But if they did some movie with a lesser known character, with less advertising probably wouldn’t work out Jar Jar: A Star Wars Story |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 8, 2018 18:42:17 GMT -5
If they don't advertise it people won't know its coming. Not everyone follows the Star Wars movie news. They will know when the reviewers and hardcore fans start posting all over the internet and then they will go see it as well even if the reviews are not favourable because it’s the name that brings people in. Honestly Star Wars is still built off the success and greatness of the originals and people will keep going because of that alone looking for any kind of resemblance Well it seems a little ridiculous that a blockbuster movie wouldn't have any trailers for it prior to release. It's alright if it's a small low budget film that's shown in like certain local theaters but something as big as Star Wars gets advertised. It's not about would people know, they'd figure it out eventually but it's a common practice to advertise big movies |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Jan 8, 2018 19:10:22 GMT -5
I'm geussing around a box office of somewhere between 700-800 million. I might be completely wrong but i don't see a character such as Han Solo grossing a billion. Also this is a really good score for any film. Unless it has the same budget as Last Jedi or Force Awakens. TLJ needed to gross 800 million to break-even. This included marketing costs. I'm going to assume marketing costs for this film are much lower.
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Post by Newan on Jan 8, 2018 19:52:32 GMT -5
They will know when the reviewers and hardcore fans start posting all over the internet and then they will go see it as well even if the reviews are not favourable because it’s the name that brings people in. Honestly Star Wars is still built off the success and greatness of the originals and people will keep going because of that alone looking for any kind of resemblance Well it seems a little ridiculous that a blockbuster movie wouldn't have any trailers for it prior to release. It's alright if it's a small low budget film that's shown in like certain local theaters but something as big as Star Wars gets advertised. It's not about would people know, they'd figure it out eventually but it's a common practice to advertise big movies They will but I was just saying a hypothetical situation that this movie will still succeed at the box office regardless |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 8, 2018 21:23:37 GMT -5
Well it seems a little ridiculous that a blockbuster movie wouldn't have any trailers for it prior to release. It's alright if it's a small low budget film that's shown in like certain local theaters but something as big as Star Wars gets advertised. It's not about would people know, they'd figure it out eventually but it's a common practice to advertise big movies They will but I was just saying a hypothetical situation that this movie will still succeed at the box office regardless Oh well yeah although I feel like the anthology movies are not and will not be as successful as the main trilogy(s) |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 8, 2018 23:08:11 GMT -5
Been reading more about this because I am getting more interested... Guess I never really thought about what the actual movie is called it's just "Solo".... Some people are getting mad at the Falcon's design and they're fucking retarded it looks good and makes sense for it to be different and have corelian markings. I hope they don't change it because of this reaction... |
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Post by Star on Jan 8, 2018 23:15:17 GMT -5
They will but I was just saying a hypothetical situation that this movie will still succeed at the box office regardless Oh well yeah although I feel like the anthology movies are not and will not be as successful as the main trilogy(s) It makes me wonder how the franchise will fare financially after IX. That movie should perform very well if it manages to look strong with advertising, etc. I agree that anthologies won't be as successful though, even if they allow for more stories and better ideas. I guess Rian's trilogy will be the next "main trilogy", but since it isn't focusing on the Skywalker saga, it may feel a bit off to many and could still hurt it at the box office compared to the ST. I think the best shot at making this new trilogy feel truly significant and unique would be to set it in a completely different era, such as the Old Republic (or whatever Disney chooses to fill that time period before TPM). Anything during the Galatic Empire or New Republic era would not distinguish it enough from previous films, and I'd rather not have it take place after IX, unless something spectacular occurs during that film to make me change my mind. |
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Post by Star on Jan 8, 2018 23:17:03 GMT -5
Been reading more about this because I am getting more interested... Guess I never really thought about what the actual movie is called it's just "Solo".... Some people are getting mad at the Falcon's design and they're Potato is Awesomeing retarded it looks good and makes sense for it to be different and have corelian markings. I hope they don't change it because of this reaction... It looks strange to change the most iconic ship in Star Wars, but I don't mind it the more I look at it. Adds more history to the Falcon, and it's not like the look will stay given what we see in ANH |
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Post by Newan on Jan 11, 2018 14:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Jan 11, 2018 23:08:26 GMT -5
Well, now Deadpool 2 is releasing May 18. Some think it could be Fox believing the continued Solo issues will cause the film to be delayed to December. Or it's a move to show Fox isn't afraid to challenge Disney. Either way, Dadpool will still be a threat at the box office for Solo.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 12, 2018 0:39:12 GMT -5
Well, now Deadpool 2 is releasing May 18. Some think it could be Fox believing the continued Solo issues will cause the film to be delayed to December. Or it's a move to show Fox isn't afraid to challenge Disney. Either way, Dadpool will still be a threat at the box office for Solo.  |
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Post by Star on Jan 13, 2018 14:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Jan 13, 2018 14:29:23 GMT -5
It would be cool if we got to see the transition between Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers due to Han's possible Imperial past and this movie probably taking place only a few years after ROTS. Another possibility would be a flashback (or opening scene like Rogue One) that occurs during the Clone Wars and shows some kind of event that shapes Han's personality into the guy we know from the OT.
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Post by Newan on Jan 13, 2018 18:03:58 GMT -5
It would be cool if we got to see the transition between Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers due to Han's possible Imperial past and this movie probably taking place only a few years after ROTS. Another possibility would be a flashback (or opening scene like Rogue One) that occurs during the Clone Wars and shows some kind of event that shapes Han's personality into the guy we know from the OT. Han is only like 30-35 in ANH, having him that close to ROTS is too early IMO. I suspect this movie is going to take place 5-8 years before ANH, that would also be before Rebels. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 19, 2018 13:28:05 GMT -5
Oh I saw earlier that Liam Neeson wants to return as well in the Kenobi movie... please do flashbacks with him, or just have his voice as a force ghost teaching Kenobi... I think Liam is one of the few prequel actors who actually really likes his role/ Star Wars in general, he came back multiple times in TCW to voice
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 19, 2018 14:54:11 GMT -5
Oh I saw earlier that Liam Neeson wants to return as well in the Kenobi movie... please do flashbacks with him, or just have his voice as a force ghost teaching Kenobi... I think Liam is one of the few prequel actors who actually really likes his role/ Star Wars in general, he came back multiple times in TCW to voice I'd be pretty down with him getting another go. For all of Qui-Gon's faults, he's still one of my favourite characters in the saga. Plus, you can do a lot of neat stuff with Liam coming back in an Obi-Wan spin-off. Flashbacks, Force ghost, both, you name it. |
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Post by Newan on Jan 19, 2018 16:00:42 GMT -5
Oh I saw earlier that Liam Neeson wants to return as well in the Kenobi movie... please do flashbacks with him, or just have his voice as a force ghost teaching Kenobi... I think Liam is one of the few prequel actors who actually really likes his role/ Star Wars in general, he came back multiple times in TCW to voice I'd be pretty down with him getting another go. For all of Qui-Gon's faults, he's still one of my favourite characters in the saga. Plus, you can do a lot of neat stuff with Liam coming back in an Obi-Wan spin-off. Flashbacks, Force ghost, both, you name it. Ewan might be a bit too old to do the young Obi-Wan from the 1997 filming of TPM, they would probably cast a younger Kenobi maybe to play a 13-15 year old one when he starts his training with Qui-Gon if they were going to do flashbacks. But I think Qui-Gon really needs to appear just as a voice like with Yoda on Dagobah. Would be cool to have a Hayden Flashback as well with Anakin. And Vader cameo, in the old EU Kenobi finds out Vader is alive from an imperial broadcast at Mos Esiley |
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Post by Kenbo on Jan 19, 2018 16:15:05 GMT -5
I'd be pretty down with him getting another go. For all of Qui-Gon's faults, he's still one of my favourite characters in the saga. Plus, you can do a lot of neat stuff with Liam coming back in an Obi-Wan spin-off. Flashbacks, Force ghost, both, you name it. Ewan might be a bit too old to do the young Obi-Wan from the 1997 filming of TPM, they would probably cast a younger Kenobi maybe to play a 13-15 year old one when he starts his training with Qui-Gon if they were going to do flashbacks. But I think Qui-Gon really needs to appear just as a voice like with Yoda on Dagobah. Would be cool to have a Hayden Flashback as well with Anakin. And Vader cameo, in the old EU Kenobi finds out Vader is alive from an imperial broadcast at Mos Esiley I really want Hayden back somewhere. I bet with good lines he could do a better job |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 19, 2018 16:20:49 GMT -5
Ewan might be a bit too old to do the young Obi-Wan from the 1997 filming of TPM, they would probably cast a younger Kenobi maybe to play a 13-15 year old one when he starts his training with Qui-Gon if they were going to do flashbacks. But I think Qui-Gon really needs to appear just as a voice like with Yoda on Dagobah. Would be cool to have a Hayden Flashback as well with Anakin. And Vader cameo, in the old EU Kenobi finds out Vader is alive from an imperial broadcast at Mos Esiley I really want Hayden back somewhere. I bet with good lines he could do a better job Nah, make Matt Lanter the new Anakin actor. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jan 19, 2018 16:46:53 GMT -5
I really want Hayden back somewhere. I bet with good lines he could do a better job Nah, make Matt Lanter the new Anakin actor. Matt Lanter is the only Anakin actor. |
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Post by Pinda on Jan 19, 2018 16:51:41 GMT -5
Nah, make Matt Lanter the new Anakin actor. Matt Lanter is the only Anakin actor. Yeah. TCW Anakin is the real Anakin to me. Whenever I see movie Anakin his voice just sounds weird to me. And Matt Lanter looks like he could play Anakin in a live action movie/series... |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jan 19, 2018 16:58:30 GMT -5
I don't know. I kinda feel like Hayden deserves another chance and prove it was all just poor direction, or lack thereof. Lanter wouldn't be a bad fit even in real life, but personally I'd be happy to risk it with the galaxy's biggest sand hater.
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Post by Pinda on Jan 19, 2018 17:00:28 GMT -5
I don't know. I kinda feel like Hayden deserves another chance and prove it was all just poor direction, or lack thereof. Lanter wouldn't be a bad fit even in real life, but personally I'd be happy to risk it with the galaxy's biggest sand hater. Well I would not mind Hayden either... It would make more sense if they are going to show prequel era flashbacks in the movie. But honestly, I think Matt Lanter would have done a much better job as Anakin in the prequels. |
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