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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 8:33:48 GMT -5
So... Han Solo isn't his real name.... Disney please... We don't need another Sheev...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 1, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -5
I don't think it's meant to taken literally. It probably translates into how he got his reputation. Regardless, I still think this movie's stupid.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 1, 2017 9:47:56 GMT -5
not an april fool joke? :\
I don't think it's necessary or that they should do it but I don't think it would be terrible. In Mad Men the main character Don Draper formerly Dick Whitman took on his new name after deserting the army which I think was really interesting
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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 9:52:19 GMT -5
I don't think it's meant to taken literally. It probably translates into how he got his reputation. Regardless, I still think this movie's stupid. The only reason we will get this movie is because Han Solo = Money. His origin story did not need to be told. He is just a smuggler. There are so many more interesting spin-offs they could do: - A prequel to TPM involving Plagueis, Maul, Sidious, Dooku and Gunray.
- An Old Republic movie.
- A movie set between Episode 1 and 2.
- A movie focusing on the Empire.
- A bounty hunter movie.
- A movie set directly after ROTS showing the transition from Republic to Empire.
- A Grievous origin story (because we don't know much about this in canon).
- Any movie set between Episode 6 and 7.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 1, 2017 11:29:02 GMT -5
I don't think it's meant to taken literally. It probably translates into how he got his reputation. Regardless, I still think this movie's stupid. The only reason we will get this movie is because Han Solo = Money. His origin story did not need to be told. He is just a smuggler. There are so many more interesting spin-offs they could do: - A prequel to TPM involving Plagueis, Maul, Sidious, Dooku and Gunray.
- An Old Republic movie.
- A movie set between Episode 1 and 2.
- A movie focusing on the Empire.
- A bounty hunter movie.
- A movie set directly after ROTS showing the transition from Republic to Empire.
- A Grievous origin story (because we don't know much about this in canon).
- Any movie set between Episode 6 and 7.
I'm not so sure the whole Han = $$$ is a sure fire equation when it's not Harrison Ford, but a guy trying his best Harrison Ford impersonation. Plus this kind of film simply reeks of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which is never a good sign.
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Post by Newan on Apr 1, 2017 11:35:25 GMT -5
Disney hasn't produced a bad Star Wars movie yet and I doubt Episode 8 will be terrible unless they complelty copy ESB.
Think they probably deserve the benefit of the doubt for now, they earned that after Rouge One IMO
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Post by Potato on Apr 1, 2017 12:10:34 GMT -5
The quote was "how he gets his name". I think you're all taking it out of context. It seems more like how he'll make a name for himself.
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Post by Spidyyr on Apr 1, 2017 12:15:54 GMT -5
The only reason we will get this movie is because Han Solo = Money. His origin story did not need to be told. He is just a smuggler. There are so many more interesting spin-offs they could do: - A prequel to TPM involving Plagueis, Maul, Sidious, Dooku and Gunray.
- An Old Republic movie.
- A movie set between Episode 1 and 2.
- A movie focusing on the Empire.
- A bounty hunter movie.
- A movie set directly after ROTS showing the transition from Republic to Empire.
- A Grievous origin story (because we don't know much about this in canon).
- Any movie set between Episode 6 and 7.
I'm not so sure the whole Han = $$$ is a sure fire equation when it's not Harrison Ford, but a guy trying his best Harrison Ford impersonation. Plus this kind of film simply reeks of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which is never a good sign. Walk until your feet bleed, and then keep walking.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 12:36:22 GMT -5
Disney hasn't produced a bad Star Wars movie yet and I doubt Episode 8 will be terrible unless they complelty copy ESB. Think they probably deserve the benefit of the doubt for now, they earned that after Rouge One IMO TFA was kind of weak. It was an exact copy of ANH's plot. I have more faith in Last Jedi since they said it wouldn't be an ESB copy... but still so far Disney has not impressed me.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 12:36:56 GMT -5
The quote was "how he gets his name". I think you're all taking it out of context. It seems more like how he'll make a name for himself. Yeah probably. Still I'm not very exited for this movie...
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Post by Newan on Apr 1, 2017 12:43:34 GMT -5
Disney hasn't produced a bad Star Wars movie yet and I doubt Episode 8 will be terrible unless they complelty copy ESB. Think they probably deserve the benefit of the doubt for now, they earned that after Rouge One IMO TFA was kind of weak. It was an exact copy of ANH's plot. I have more faith in Last Jedi since they said it wouldn't be an ESB copy... but still so far Disney has not impressed me. I don't think there's a fair argument to be made that the new movies have been worse then the prequels though specifically TPM and AOTC, since ROTS was great. But TFA was fine IMO, they played it safe but it's what fans wanted for the most part and they used a classic plot to introduce a lot of characters, there's lots of room for expansion now
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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 12:46:42 GMT -5
TFA was kind of weak. It was an exact copy of ANH's plot. I have more faith in Last Jedi since they said it wouldn't be an ESB copy... but still so far Disney has not impressed me. I don't think there's a fair argument to be made that the new movies have been worse then the prequels though specifically TPM and AOTC, since ROTS was great. But TFA was fine IMO, they played it safe but it's what fans wanted for the most part and they used a classic plot to introduce a lot of characters, there's lots of room for expansion now TFA was the worst main Star Wars movie in my opinion. Not because it was a bad movie on its own (if ANH did not exist it would have been fine) but because it did not try to tell a new story. Say what you want about the prequels but at least they have an unique plot.
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Post by Newan on Apr 1, 2017 12:50:29 GMT -5
I don't think there's a fair argument to be made that the new movies have been worse then the prequels though specifically TPM and AOTC, since ROTS was great. But TFA was fine IMO, they played it safe but it's what fans wanted for the most part and they used a classic plot to introduce a lot of characters, there's lots of room for expansion now TFA was the worst main Star Wars movie in my opinion. Not because it was a bad movie on its own (if ANH did not exist it would have been fine) but because it did not try to tell a new story. Say what you want about the prequels but at least they have an unique plot. A unique plot does not mean it's a good plot though And Rouge One is probably top 3 IMO
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Post by Pinda on Apr 1, 2017 12:53:20 GMT -5
TFA was the worst main Star Wars movie in my opinion. Not because it was a bad movie on its own (if ANH did not exist it would have been fine) but because it did not try to tell a new story. Say what you want about the prequels but at least they have an unique plot. A unique plot does not mean it's a good plot though And Rouge One is probably top 3 IMO I prefer the prequels over TFA. As for Rogue One... I don't know. Rogue One was alright but it felt stretched out too much... I don't know I might have to rewatch it some time... It was definitely better than TFA though.
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Post by Newan on Apr 1, 2017 12:59:34 GMT -5
A unique plot does not mean it's a good plot though And Rouge One is probably top 3 IMO I prefer the prequels over TFA. As for Rogue One... I don't know. Rogue One was alright but it felt stretched out too much... I don't know I might have to rewatch it some time... It was definitely better than TFA though. Are you sure you're not blending the prequel movies with TCW? Lol because there's a very distinctive quality differences between TCW and prequel movies. Rouge One was good for a spinoff, it had a fairly interesting cast and had plenty of locations.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Apr 1, 2017 23:18:37 GMT -5
I liked TFA character depth and dev, and the characters, and story flowed more completed While Rogue one had the opposite, weaker character depth and dev, characters boring but "cool"; and shots and editing was botchy. While TFA had weak unoriginal story and not alot of rewatchability to Rogue one which I think is a great story and better action.
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Post by Newan on Apr 2, 2017 3:30:17 GMT -5
Rouge One was good because it didn't have a plot like the movies... no force focus, Jedi/ Sith or anything.
IMO criteria for spinoff should be around: A) Expands the Star Wars universe, lore and location wise outside of the movie focus B) Has some unique characters, main character appearances is fine to some extent, like Vader in Rouge One C) Doesn't follow the same plot as the movies aka the Skywalker type force focus, Jedi/ Sith, Light/ Dark...
Rouge One does most of this but the plot is movie focused with the Death Star.
The Han Solo movie should have planets of non movie locations, will likely be more underworld which has potential. However does focus on main characters, we don't really need stories focused on main characters much. But it's a unique plot, or should be.
I mean a Kenobi spinoff would be kinda cool in theory just because of Ewan, however I think the idea is even worse then this one... it does none of the above. And Kenobi is already a huge focus in the current canon.
The Old Republic, pre TPM,Yoda, Boba Fett/ Bounty Hinters would all be better ideas IMO then Kenobi or Han. Thrawn post ROTJ based somewhat on the novels would be amazing too but likely impossible since it would require all the original cast I think
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 21, 2017 22:32:27 GMT -5
Directors dropped out. Well actually Kathleen basically fired them because they didn't share the same "vision".... Yeah no way this movie's gonna be good. It'll likely be Disneyfied and have Kathleen's feminist bullshit. Just let them make good movies damn. The sequels fucking suck, anthology ones would've been the good new Star Wars movies but they're not letting their people do what they want
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 21, 2017 22:39:02 GMT -5
Actually if the rumors are true and Ron Howard takes over, things could go well... Howard makes some good ass movies but again Kathleen just needs to not get in his way (which won't happen...)
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 21, 2017 23:53:40 GMT -5
Actually if the rumors are true and Ron Howard takes over, things could go well... Howard makes some good ass movies but again Kathleen just needs to not get in his way (which won't happen...) Oh lit maybe
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 22, 2017 2:44:18 GMT -5
Considering how much a shambles making this thing is, they might as well agree that this is a sign that fate itself is saying this movie is one gigantic waste of time, effort and talent that when completed will turn out an unbearable cringe fest.
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 22, 2017 8:23:33 GMT -5
Considering how much a shambles making this thing is, they might as well agree that this is a sign that fate itself is saying this movie is one gigantic waste of time, effort and talent that when completed will turn out an unbearable cringe fest. Yeah probably
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jun 22, 2017 11:07:34 GMT -5
And they were almost done filming too. So.... reshoots!
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 22, 2017 12:32:28 GMT -5
Considering how much a shambles making this thing is, they might as well agree that this is a sign that fate itself is saying this movie is one gigantic waste of time, effort and talent that when completed will turn out an unbearable cringe fest. I honestly don't know why they felt the need to make this film in the first place. Oh wait, yes I do.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 22, 2017 12:35:03 GMT -5
And they were almost done filming too. So.... reshoots! Ugh, so is this gonna be like TMNT, Fant4stic, or Suicide Squad?
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jun 22, 2017 14:26:59 GMT -5
They basically have to reshoot the entire movie. They're wasting my girl Emilia Clarkes time. She got Season 8 to film!
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Post by Potato on Jun 22, 2017 14:29:08 GMT -5
Reshoots don't mean anything. Every major blockbuster has reshoots scheduled ahead of time.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jun 22, 2017 14:38:27 GMT -5
Reshoots don't mean anything. Every major blockbuster has reshoots scheduled ahead of time. Reshoots are fine but they were almost done filming. They have to reshoot the entirety of the film
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 23, 2017 10:57:21 GMT -5
Considering how much a shambles making this thing is, they might as well agree that this is a sign that fate itself is saying this movie is one gigantic waste of time, effort and talent that when completed will turn out an unbearable cringe fest. I honestly don't know why they felt the need to make this film in the first place. Oh wait, yes I do. Well, yeah, I'm sure that's what they're thinking, but I haven't really come across that many people who wanted a Star Wars spin-off starring a guy doing his best Harrison Ford impression. My gut tells me this is not going to be the usual billion dollar plus blockbuster, which doesn't bode well for its already rotten financial situation, since Howard's probably got to redo a lot of the stuff Lord and Miller already filmed. It just seems a pointless exercise that Lucasfilm is forcing through the ringer, in spite of the fact that even fate itself seems unhappy with this movie getting made instead of TOR film, an Obi-Wan film, a Vader film, or hell even a freaking Skippy the Droid Jedi film (yes, really starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skippy_the_Jedi_Droid ).
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 23, 2017 11:19:10 GMT -5
I honestly don't know why they felt the need to make this film in the first place. Oh wait, yes I do. Well, yeah, I'm sure that's what they're thinking, but I haven't really come across that many people who wanted a Star Wars spin-off starring a guy doing his best Harrison Ford impression. My gut tells me this is not going to be the usual billion dollar plus blockbuster, which doesn't bode well for its already rotten financial situation, since Howard's probably got to redo a lot of the stuff Lord and Miller already filmed. It just seems a pointless exercise that Lucasfilm is forcing through the ringer, in spite of the fact that even fate itself seems unhappy with this movie getting made instead of TOR film, an Obi-Wan film, a Vader film, or hell even a freaking Skippy the Droid Jedi film (yes, really starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skippy_the_Jedi_Droid ). Omg I would watch the shit out of Skippy the Jedi Droid.
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