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Post by Kenbo on Apr 13, 2021 14:45:31 GMT -5
I guess I'll try rankings
Phase 1 avg: (8.1/10)
Iron Man: (9/10)
Iron Man 2: (7.5/10)
Thor: (5/10)
Captain America: (9/10)
Avengers: (10/10)
Phase 2 avg: (7.75/10)
Iron Man 3: (8.5/10)
Thor 2: (5.5/10)
Captain America 2: (9/10)
GOTG: (9/10)
Avengers 2: (7.5/10)
Ant Man: (7/10)
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 15, 2021 15:19:59 GMT -5
I guess I'll try rankings Phase 1 avg: (8.1/10) Iron Man: (9/10) Iron Man 2: (7.5/10) Thor: (5/10) Captain America: (9/10) Avengers: (10/10) Phase 2 avg: (7.75/10) Iron Man 3: (8.5/10) Thor 2: (5.5/10) Captain America 2: (9/10) GOTG: (9/10) Avengers 2: (7.5/10) Ant Man: (7/10) lol I had money on you to give Iron Man 2 a 6  What's crazy is I went to see Dark World in cinemas, but not GOTG, which upon hindsight seems utterly nuts  |
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 15, 2021 21:01:02 GMT -5
Civil War: (7/10)
Kinda weird movie it was like an Avengers 2.5. Didn't love it though. Zemo as the villain felt pretty weak and there was quite some cringey dialogue. Spider-Man was actually kind of annoying to me... I couldn't really buy Hawkeye leaving his family and then siding against Natasha. Also the Iron Man CGI suit looks really weird. Black Panther was cool though. I am surprised how highly rated this film is and a lot of people think the airport fight was the best ever... I thought it was a cringe fest with no stakes lol. Yeah this movie is probably towards the bottom of the ranking for me. Everything is so contrived from Zemo's plans to every character's motive and side they choose. I guess the strongest part of it is Tony's character development
Doctor Strange (7.5/10)
Again good but still didn't love it. Definitely different from other marvel yet at the same time filled with many cliches lol. I actually thought Dormammu was Thanos but I guess he was a different character from the comics. Also the soundtrack felt a lot like JJ Trek's soundtrack so it wasn't a surprise to see Michael Giacchino was the composer
GOTG 2 (6/10)
Pretty boring honestly. Characters and their development were written well but I really didn't find the plot interesting at all. Also don't like how many of these movies open with some lame fight with the main squad against a low level boss and the whole scene is pretty irrelevant for the rest of the film. I really disliked the opening for this I mean dancing during the opening credits and cute Groot and the "quirky" music addition all things were done in the last movie and it's not funny when repeated. I feel like most Marvel sequels are weaker than the first. Winter Soldier might be the one exception
Ragnorok (7.5/10)
It was fun. Kinda felt like it copied Gladiator lol. But I like when they explore other planets. And Hulk's inclusion was great.
Black Panther (7/10)
It was fine I guess. Kilmonger was pretty badass yet somehow felt a bit underdeveloped. But I always think duels between friends or family are really powerful and tend to like them
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 15, 2021 21:01:32 GMT -5
Infinity War (9/10)
Thought it'd be a 10 but somehow not as epic as I remembered it... But still pretty good I think the only marvel movie after like 20 or whatever where the villain actually wins. I feel like there are so many gaps in the story though and so much happens off screen. Like Thanos stomping Xander off screen is lame af. Imagine if this was a tv series could easily be the greatest ever. With movies there seems to leave some gaps. On another note I really liked Dr. Strange in this kinda looking forward to more stuff with him. Thor as well really felt for him after all he lost. And I find it weird none of the Avengers got snapped. Only the side characters lol.
Ant Man and Wasp (7/10
Another average one nothing spectacular. Kinda annoying to make people wait for Endgame and forcing this and Captain Marvel before it but whatever. I thought the de aging they did on the actors looked really good though wonder how other things haven't been able to make it as good. The villain was a little annoying to me I think all the chaos could've been avoided if they just told her they'd help her after saving Janet lol
Captain Marvel (5.5/10)
Very boring couldn't stay engaged. Carol wasn't a good or interesting character
Endgame (8/10)
Idk if it should be lower but honestly it wasn't great overall. The first act had a lot of cool moments I really liked Tony and Nebula's scene. I'd say this and Infinity War had the better movie openings. Seeing the aftermath of the snap was also good. But tbh the whole time heist stuff was kinda lame. Final battle had some good moments but where did the good guys come from? Somehow Lando rallying the whole galaxy in two hours makes more sense than this because we at least knew who those people were... Who were the armies we saw? And how did Strange bring them all together? The girl power moment was cringe of course but that's been said. Speaking of, Captain Marvel was rather pointless wasn't she? I think she and Black Panther should've had larger roles. Also while characters mentioned Black Widow at the end, it felt like she had largely been forgotten about. I mean I forgot about her lol. Also Cap keeping Thor's hammer was weird... Yeah more I think about it the more this movie just feels a little lame overall. It only gets a higher score from me because it focuses on the characters I like instead of the ones I don't
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 15, 2021 21:29:39 GMT -5
Gonna try to rank all of them. This is going to be difficult because it's hard to remember my exact thoughts on 22 movies and I haven't seen them all enough times to be totally familiar with them... Anyway this will mostly be based on my enjoyment or whatever I got out of them over more objective qualities. So going worst to best:
20. Thor
19. Captain Marvel
18. Thor: The Dark World
17. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
16. Black Panther
15. Ant Man and the Wasp
14. Ant Man
13. Captain America: Civil War
12. Iron Man 2
11. Avengers: Endgame
10. Doctor Strange
9. Avengers: Age of Ultron
8. Thor: Ragnarok
7. Avengers: Infinity War
6. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
4. Iron Man 3
3. The Avengers
2. Captain America: The First Avenger
1. Iron Man
I guess I'm missing the Tom Holland Spider Mans but I don't really like those tbh and I'm not that interested in seeing Ed Norton's Hulk. Those aren't on D+ anyway. So yeah I think my top ten are the ones easiest for me to watch. Iron Man 3 might be the unpopular opinion but like I said before there's just a lot of cool stuff in it I enjoy. And I really like Brian Tyler as a composer it might have my favorite soundtrack of all these movies but that isn't saying much as overall I don't love superhero soundtracks. I guess most of its problems come from it not staying true to the comics?
But yeah I think my final thoughts on the MCU is that they are really good popcorn movies. Most are fairly fun to watch with some decent humor but some are incredibly boring. I think for the most part the writers are really good at having amazing character moments and writing good development and arcs for them. But on the plot front, they are super weak, predictable, formulaic, and not the most interesting. And I think therein lies a lot of peoples problem with Marvel movies. The stories are weak sauce. Most of the villains are lackluster too. And unless you are invested in the main characters, the movie probably won't hit for you. Which is why the ones with the newer characters are at the bottom of my list because I will just prefer seeing characters like Iron Man and Cap over Captain Marvel and Ant Man
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 16, 2021 12:54:49 GMT -5
Wow today's F/WS episode was so bad. This show sucks honestly it's as lame as Agents of Shield and all those other side character shows everyone forgot about. I don't give a shit about their fucking boat man what is going on with that plot lmao... And the whole race stuff just feels so awkward. This might be the most in your face social agenda stuff marvel has ever done... If only Cap gave the shield to Bucky we could've avoided all that. It's actually really odd for Cap to not give the shield to his best friend. I was reading some posts on Endgame yesterday and that was one of many other criticisms that made me realize Endgame is terribly written. Probably deserves a 6/10 I only rated it higher because it's fun as a popcorn movie but man does it have problems
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 19, 2021 4:21:32 GMT -5
Wow today's F/WS episode was so bad. This show sucks honestly it's as lame as Agents of Shield and all those other side character shows everyone forgot about. I don't give a shit about their fucking boat man what is going on with that plot lmao... And the whole race stuff just feels so awkward. This might be the most in your face social agenda stuff marvel has ever done... If only Cap gave the shield to Bucky we could've avoided all that. It's actually really odd for Cap to not give the shield to his best friend. I was reading some posts on Endgame yesterday and that was one of many other criticisms that made me realize Endgame is terribly written. Probably deserves a 6/10 I only rated it higher because it's fun as a popcorn movie but man does it have problems Giving Sam the shield was sort of adapting one of the recent comics where Steve got old and so Sam got the torch passed to him. However, before that, Bucky was made Captain America for a time. Regardless, it's a bad story decision and it kind of ruins a chance of having Bucky come full circle with his character. Still, as far as popcorn films go, Endgame's Citizen Kane compared to others like Bayformers |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 9, 2021 16:07:39 GMT -5
Okay, I'll be the first one to say it. Loki is definitely seeming like the best Marvel show by far. I much prefer this brand of weirdness to Wandavision's. Also, Tom Hiddleston could make reading a newspaper seem highly engaging, so already they have a big strong point and they use it well. You have to be a pretty good show to get away with using the same set for a lot of the episode lol I also really like the concept of a villain dealing with the fact they're sort of destined to be a villain and learn how to grow past that.
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 10, 2021 14:47:46 GMT -5
Okay, I'll be the first one to say it. Loki is definitely seeming like the best Marvel show by far. I much prefer this brand of weirdness to Wandavision's. Also, Tom Hiddleston could make reading a newspaper seem highly engaging, so already they have a big strong point and they use it well. You have to be a pretty good show to get away with using the same set for a lot of the episode lol I also really like the concept of a villain dealing with the fact they're sort of destined to be a villain and learn how to grow past that. I found this one episode to be more entertaining than the entirety of WandaVision and F/WS lol I quite like the set/prop aesthetics in this. Feels a little more like Guardians of the Galaxy and more sci-fi-ish. The ending, though I don't know what was going on, looked cool and the music during it was nice. I also liked that infinity stones scenes. It got me thinking if Loki is just playing Owen Wilson with a fake redemption arc with the hidden agenda of gaining the TVA's power after he realizes how much they have. Owen Wilson did have that line earlier in the episode about how Loki sucks up to the highest power or something along those lines I don't really remember it |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 10, 2021 15:50:04 GMT -5
Okay, I'll be the first one to say it. Loki is definitely seeming like the best Marvel show by far. I much prefer this brand of weirdness to Wandavision's. Also, Tom Hiddleston could make reading a newspaper seem highly engaging, so already they have a big strong point and they use it well. You have to be a pretty good show to get away with using the same set for a lot of the episode lol I also really like the concept of a villain dealing with the fact they're sort of destined to be a villain and learn how to grow past that. I found this one episode to be more entertaining than the entirety of WandaVision and F/WS lol I quite like the set/prop aesthetics in this. Feels a little more like Guardians of the Galaxy and more sci-fi-ish. The ending, though I don't know what was going on, looked cool and the music during it was nice. I also liked that infinity stones scenes. It got me thinking if Loki is just playing Owen Wilson with a fake redemption arc with the hidden agenda of gaining the TVA's power after he realizes how much they have. Owen Wilson did have that line earlier in the episode about how Loki sucks up to the highest power or something along those lines I don't really remember it Yeah, that lo-fi 70s look it has going on just tics all my boxes. Love that kind of look. I wouldn't mind having a house decorated in that style I'm not sure if they'll be that ballsy with making Owen Wilson just Loki though, but that said I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of heel turn happens to someone else. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 10, 2021 18:24:32 GMT -5
I found this one episode to be more entertaining than the entirety of WandaVision and F/WS lol I quite like the set/prop aesthetics in this. Feels a little more like Guardians of the Galaxy and more sci-fi-ish. The ending, though I don't know what was going on, looked cool and the music during it was nice. I also liked that infinity stones scenes. It got me thinking if Loki is just playing Owen Wilson with a fake redemption arc with the hidden agenda of gaining the TVA's power after he realizes how much they have. Owen Wilson did have that line earlier in the episode about how Loki sucks up to the highest power or something along those lines I don't really remember it Yeah, that lo-fi 70s look it has going on just tics all my boxes. Love that kind of look. I wouldn't mind having a house decorated in that style I'm not sure if they'll be that ballsy with making Owen Wilson just Loki though, but that said I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of heel turn happens to someone else. I actually meant that Loki is pretending to be good and on his side when he plans to betray him later. But I forgot about his disguise ability though yeah using it like that would be pretty weird and wouldn't make sense lol |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 11, 2021 3:21:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that lo-fi 70s look it has going on just tics all my boxes. Love that kind of look. I wouldn't mind having a house decorated in that style I'm not sure if they'll be that ballsy with making Owen Wilson just Loki though, but that said I wouldn't be surprised if that kind of heel turn happens to someone else. I actually meant that Loki is pretending to be good and on his side when he plans to betray him later. But I forgot about his disguise ability though yeah using it like that would be pretty weird and wouldn't make sense lol Well in that case, I agree with you, probably faking it Apparently the show will show different versions of Loki, such as an old man, a child, a woman etc. Kinda curious how that fits into the plot. |
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Post by Kenbo on Jun 16, 2021 11:20:26 GMT -5
Man that Bonnie Tyler song is really getting milked these days. Already the Masters of the Universe and Guardians of the Galaxy game trailers used it lol. I think the usage in the Loki episode was the lamest tbh like it wasn't even that cool of an action sequence. But otherwise still a fun episode. I kinda forgot about Lady Loki actually, not sure if she was in the trailers or had been confirmed previously or people just assumed she would appear but yeah her inclusion seems pretty obvious
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Post by Newan on Jun 18, 2021 20:49:14 GMT -5
I’m liking this show so far, although tbh it’s really just a higher budget version of Legends of Tomorrow. I think they are taking more than a few ideas from that.
Obviously Tom is carrying the show but the plot is a little mind fucky, not really sure where it’s gonna go. I’m either thinking the other variant is Loki when he gets “killed” by Thanos and he somehow cheats death or it’s future TVA Loki after he’s helped them for so long and learns enough about them
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Post by Kenbo on Jul 14, 2021 9:46:56 GMT -5
Interesting finale. I mean half the episode was the villain monologuing and everyone just sitting and giving info dumps which felt kinda lame and lazy... But I guess it did set up something big. Apparently He Who Remains is Nathaniel Richards/Kang the Conquerer and he's going to be the next Thanos type cross over villain. So that'll be interesting. Definitely looking forward to season 2 to see where things go
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 14, 2021 14:07:55 GMT -5
Interesting finale. I mean half the episode was the villain monologuing and everyone just sitting and giving info dumps which felt kinda lame and lazy... But I guess it did set up something big. Apparently He Who Remains is Nathaniel Richards/Kang the Conquerer and he's going to be the next Thanos type cross over villain. So that'll be interesting. Definitely looking forward to season 2 to see where things go This episode was probably the biggest crux for the MCU going forward. This guy will be the villain in Ant-Man 3 and I just know he'll have a hand in the multiverse themed Doctor Strange and Spider-Man films. No doubt they're all going to deal with the major fallout from this. |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 11, 2021 10:05:43 GMT -5
I thought the first What If episode was pretty neat. I had a feeling they would do the Captain Carter story first. I liked seeing her she was pretty badass. Obviously the whole thing had some weird pacing but they basically had to condense a 2 hour movie into 30 minutes so I guess it was fine... Only thing I'd nitpick would be they had way too many lines about the "dance" and it was annoying lol. But overall it was fun and I'm looking forward to more.
Crazy how many of the big name actors they got to reprise their roles. Wonder if it was contractural obligations or something.
Also I wonder if all the episodes will be connected or it will be episodic. Like are they going to go chronologically through most of the movies and will all the changed events impact the next part? Like will we see Captain Carter fighting with the Avengers? The trailers make me think each episode will focus on one isolated timeline. For example zombie Captain America I don't think would exist in this timeline where Steve didn't get the serum.
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 11, 2021 10:09:02 GMT -5
The animation I quite liked as well. It feels like the Star Wars Resistance animation on a higher budget. I know a lot of people didn't like the animation for that but I thought it wasn't bad. Seeing epic moments recreated in animation is very satisfying to me though. I wish Star Wars would get something like this. I think this is going to be a really cool project honestly. I'm not really interested in their new phase 4(?) content but going back to the OG Avengers stuff and giving us fresh takes on that grabs my attention more
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 27, 2021 10:57:15 GMT -5
The animation I quite liked as well. It feels like the Star Wars Resistance animation on a higher budget. I know a lot of people didn't like the animation for that but I thought it wasn't bad. Seeing epic moments recreated in animation is very satisfying to me though. I wish Star Wars would get something like this. I think this is going to be a really cool project honestly. I'm not really interested in their new phase 4(?) content but going back to the OG Avengers stuff and giving us fresh takes on that grabs my attention more I don't know, from what I've seen of it, it feels a bit too uncanny valley. It's actually fairly similar looking to rotoscoping, which always looks a bit awkward to me. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 17, 2021 15:13:51 GMT -5
Been watching the What If series some more and like the Twilight Zone it's inspired by, the quality is all over the place. You might get a really good idea or a bad one that just drones on. The latest one was the latter |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 18, 2021 11:06:08 GMT -5
Been watching the What If series some more and like the Twilight Zone it's inspired by, the quality is all over the place. You might get a really good idea or a bad one that just drones on. The latest one was the latter I thought they were alright for the most part until the zombie episode. The tone was all over the place on that one. Should've decided to either make it serious or a comedy because it was very cringey as both. The kilmonger episode also kinda bored me and they didn't really do anything different with his character |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 19, 2021 3:28:35 GMT -5
Been watching the What If series some more and like the Twilight Zone it's inspired by, the quality is all over the place. You might get a really good idea or a bad one that just drones on. The latest one was the latter I thought they were alright for the most part until the zombie episode. The tone was all over the place on that one. Should've decided to either make it serious or a comedy because it was very cringey as both. The kilmonger episode also kinda bored me and they didn't really do anything different with his character Considering how the comedy worked, I'd say they should have just leaned more into being a tongue-in-cheek sort of deal. Although that cliffhanger ending was rubbish Killmonger's whole plan also felt very forced and overly convoluted. I mean, he was relying on a lot of people behaving a very certain way in order to make certain decisions for his benefit |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 7, 2021 7:52:05 GMT -5
Ultron getting the stones was an interesting what if. Kinda shows the difference between him and Thanos like Thanos did not use the stones to their max potential at all because he didn't really care. I'm kinda surprised the TVA wasn't involved somehow in the finale though.
Also idk if it's just an Easter egg or something more but I think people are saying Vader's castle was in the scene where the Watcher and Ultron were fighting through different universes
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Oct 12, 2021 3:20:57 GMT -5
Ultron getting the stones was an interesting what if. Kinda shows the difference between him and Thanos like Thanos did not use the stones to their max potential at all because he didn't really care. I'm kinda surprised the TVA wasn't involved somehow in the finale though. Also idk if it's just an Easter egg or something more but I think people are saying Vader's castle was in the scene where the Watcher and Ultron were fighting through different universes It might have been a similar looking castle to Vader's. Then again, it might have just been meant as a tiny blink and you'll miss it sight gag. Don't think we'll be seeing a What If episode of Vader kicking the Avengers' asses, no matter how fun that would be |
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Post by bobafett590 on May 13, 2023 15:10:59 GMT -5
I'm very over MCU at this point but GOTG 3 was actually worth it. In my view easily better than 2 and comparable to the first in quality. Essentially they toned down on the goofiness of 2 and tried to integrate more tragic elements while also ending it in a way that completes the trilogy. Very good work from Gunn imo.
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Post by Newan on May 14, 2023 10:39:40 GMT -5
I'm very over MCU at this point but GOTG 3 was actually worth it. In my view easily better than 2 and comparable to the first in quality. Essentially they toned down on the goofiness of 2 and tried to integrate more tragic elements while also ending it in a way that completes the trilogy. Very good work from Gunn imo. I’m looking forward to seeing this one, honestly the only MCU projects I care about are the pre Thanos stories wrapping up like Guardians and Doctor Strange. I really don’t care for the new stuff at all |
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Post by Kenbo on May 18, 2023 20:36:53 GMT -5
I've seen online people leaving behind the MCU after GOTG3 and considering it like a final chapter. I'll have to watch it I've heard it's good. I think I've missed a bunch of marvel stuff but I haven't exactly cared that much about it for a long while. Phase 4 was not very good and I can't see it getting much better overall other than some good ones here and there
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Post by Star on Jun 1, 2023 9:05:17 GMT -5
I skipped Ant-Man 3, first time doing so since I got into the MCU over 10 years ago. But I went ahead and saw GOTG 3 since those movies are some of my favorites. This one didn't disappoint, definitely had great character moments and a sense of closure for the trilogy. I wouldn't say it's a top tier MCU film, but it's probably my favorite post-Endgame MCU movie aside from No Way Home.
Phase 4 has burned me out with the MCU. I'm not really sure I'll get back into it the way I was pre-Endgame. I'll still pay attention to some of the movies, but there's going to be others I skip like Ant-Man 3, which I've only heard negative things about. I probably won't watch many of the shows either unless reviews are really good. To be honest though this isn't that surprising to me given we've had 15+ years of multiple MCU projects.
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Post by Newan on Jun 4, 2023 15:39:05 GMT -5
I've seen online people leaving behind the MCU after GOTG3 and considering it like a final chapter. I'll have to watch it I've heard it's good. I think I've missed a bunch of marvel stuff but I haven't exactly cared that much about it for a long while. Phase 4 was not very good and I can't see it getting much better overall other than some good ones here and there Yeah I’m kind of done I think. I’ll watch Guardians on Disney plus but idk… I think I’m only really interested in Doctor Strange and SpiderMan left in the MCU. Wolverine/ Deadpool in Deadpool 3 will likely bring my back though at least for that. Actually the secret invasion show intrigues me due to Samuel L Jackson. That comes out soon. |
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What's crazy is I went to see Dark World in cinemas, but not GOTG, which upon hindsight seems utterly nuts 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 