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Post by Star on Apr 23, 2019 16:11:24 GMT -5
Not sure I count this as a spoiler (more so a rumor), but I'll use the tag just in case: {Spoiler}A rumor was going around for a while that Hodor would appear again as a wight. I'm not sure why there'd be a need for his return, but if he does, this seems like the episode to include him. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 23, 2019 16:17:28 GMT -5
My votes:
Very likely:
Theon: dies defending Bran to complete his redemption.
Ed: Irrelevant and he kind of foreshadowed his own death.
Grey worm: They kind of set him up to die, also he is mostly irrelevant.
Beric: Should have died in season 3.
Likely:
Jorah: They foreshadowed his death. I feel like his character arc hasn't really gone anywhere yet, so maybe he will survive.
Tormund: Kind of irrelevant, maybe they want to keep him for comic relief though.
Missandei: She played her part, and I expect something to go wrong in the crypts, where she will most likely be.
Possible:
Varys: I feel like he still has a role to play... but I can't really see what that role would be... so maybe they will Littlefinger him.
Davos: Like I said, there is a scene with him we haven't seen. But it could be in episode 3, and if it is Davos could easily die. Still... his character arc doesn't seem finished either.
Gendry: I think they will keep him alive as the last Baratheon... but then again, maybe not...
Podrick: Really doesn't matter.
Gilly: Maybe.
Brienne: She is right there at the front of the battle... you would expect her to die... and her character arc is pretty much finished... But I think she will outlive Jaime, so unless Jaime dies I think she may survive.
Lyanne: It really doesn't matter much.
Unlikely:
Sansa
Arya
Dany: I think will die, but probably not this early in the season.
Jaime: I think he is going to play a role in whatever happens in King's Landing. He will likely kill Cersei.
Tyrion: I feel like he may just die at the age of 80... but maybe not.
Very unlikely:
Jon: Come on, he isn't going to die just yet and we all know it.
Sam: He will live. He is the only character I fully expect to live to the end, even if he doesn't write the story down like they are teasing. He will be around to rebuild what's left of Westoros.
Bran: They seem to be hinting that he may die... but he really shouldn't. We saw him alter the past with Hodor, but he hasn't used that ability ever since. What was the point of introducing timetravel if they are only going to use it for Hodor's name? Bran has things to do before he dies (if he dies at all, which I doubt), like turning the Mad King mad.
Impossible:
The Hound: GET HYPE!
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Post by Pinda on Apr 23, 2019 16:19:47 GMT -5
That would be pretty cool actually. Imagine the Night King actually winning and killing everyone in Westoros. No one seems to believe that is how it will end at the moment... but it would be an unprecedented series finale if it did. But that would not be the "bittersweet" ending we were promised. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 23, 2019 16:32:20 GMT -5
Even if this season ends up sucking we will at least get some cool battle music out of the next episode I guess.
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Post by Star on Apr 23, 2019 16:53:45 GMT -5
That would be pretty cool actually. Imagine the Night King actually winning and killing everyone in Westoros. No one seems to believe that is how it will end at the moment... but it would be an unprecedented series finale if it did. But that would not be the "bittersweet" ending we were promised. I would like this idea more if they didn't seem to be setting the Night King up only as a "pure evil". Maybe there's still more to him, but at this rate, they'll need to reveal that in the next episode or two, otherwise it'll feel tacked on. Another crazy way to play it would be having the Night King kill everyone, but then Cersei manages to defeat him, allowing her to rule over a desolate Westeros. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 24, 2019 6:37:26 GMT -5
That would be pretty cool actually. Imagine the Night King actually winning and killing everyone in Westoros. No one seems to believe that is how it will end at the moment... but it would be an unprecedented series finale if it did. But that would not be the "bittersweet" ending we were promised. I would like this idea more if they didn't seem to be setting the Night King up only as a "pure evil". Maybe there's still more to him, but at this rate, they'll need to reveal that in the next episode or two, otherwise it'll feel tacked on. Another crazy way to play it would be having the Night King kill everyone, but then Cersei manages to defeat him, allowing her to rule over a desolate Westeros. I guess you could make the argument the Night King isn't pure evil because he never wanted to be the Night King. He was a regular man, but the Children of the Forest turned him into a weapon, against his will. So that means he is not actually pure evil. Maybe the writers think that is enough. Still I would have liked more... The strange thing is, there is no Night King in the books. There is a mythical character called the Night 's King, but he was a Lord Commander of the Nightswatch (founded after the original Long Night) before becoming a White Walker... which means he cannot have been the first White Walker, unlike the show's Night King. So the books may take a completely different route in terms of White Walker backstory and motivation. Also, Cersei is 100% going to die by the end of the season. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 24, 2019 6:39:40 GMT -5
Beric is basically a free revive for the living. He can give up his life to bring any of them back from the dead... It seems likely that that will happen given his story in the book. The question is: who will he bring back?
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Post by Star on Apr 24, 2019 8:23:02 GMT -5
Beric is basically a free revive for the living. He can give up his life to bring any of them back from the dead... It seems likely that that will happen given his story in the book. The question is: who will he bring back? |
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Post by Star on Apr 24, 2019 8:28:24 GMT -5
I would like this idea more if they didn't seem to be setting the Night King up only as a "pure evil". Maybe there's still more to him, but at this rate, they'll need to reveal that in the next episode or two, otherwise it'll feel tacked on. Another crazy way to play it would be having the Night King kill everyone, but then Cersei manages to defeat him, allowing her to rule over a desolate Westeros. I guess you could make the argument the Night King isn't pure evil because he never wanted to be the Night King. He was a regular man, but the Children of the Forest turned him into a weapon, against his will. So that means he is not actually pure evil. Maybe the writers think that is enough. Still I would have liked more... The strange thing is, there is no Night King in the books. There is a mythical character called the Night 's King, but he was a Lord Commander of the Nightswatch (founded after the original Long Night) before becoming a White Walker... which means he cannot have been the first White Walker, unlike the show's Night King. So the books may take a completely different route in terms of White Walker backstory and motivation. Also, Cersei is 100% going to die by the end of the season. I agree that the books, if finished, will have a fairly different ending. Also, only Bran is really aware of the Night King's tragic past. Unless he tells others, and it plays a bigger part in the plot, it's definitely a stretch to claim the Night King is not pure evil. |
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Post by Star on Apr 24, 2019 10:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 24, 2019 11:16:27 GMT -5
I also think Dany will conveniently die at the end allowing Jon to become king. However I don't see Jon ruling over all the kingdoms, he may change the system, create a council or something
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Post by Potato on Apr 25, 2019 12:23:33 GMT -5
I think something bad will happen in the crypts. They kept mentioning how safe they're supposed to be. I also think they'll pull the reverse of what most people think, and they'll kill Missandei instead of Grey Worm. Then maybe in the epilogue we'll see Grey Worm taking Missandei's body to the beach they talked about.
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Post by Potato on Apr 25, 2019 12:24:35 GMT -5
Varys is also in the crypts so they could kill him too, but I hope not. Things just don't feel complete with his character. Since the final battle/event of the series will probably go down in King's Landing, I kind of hope he lives to there so we can see him pulling some political strings one more time.
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Post by Potato on Apr 25, 2019 12:25:25 GMT -5
Even though she's not on the poll, I also think Melisandre will show up, do something cool, then die.
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Post by Star on Apr 27, 2019 14:49:55 GMT -5
Something will definitely happen in the crypts. Either the Army of the Dead finds a way in, or the White Walkers possibly reanimate the fallen Starks. There's been too many references to how safe that area is for it to actually be true.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 8:24:37 GMT -5
The crypts are definitely not safe... This is from one of the early chapters of A Game of Thrones:  Really impressive how George foreshadowed this all so many years ago... |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 17:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 19:56:51 GMT -5
I am watching this tonight... I will be up way too late and be super tired at my appointment at 1 tomorrow... But screw that, I am not watching this tomorrow afternoon.
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Post by Potato on Apr 28, 2019 21:29:28 GMT -5
Great battle, but... um...  |
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Post by Potato on Apr 28, 2019 21:31:04 GMT -5
That's it I guess... 8 seasons of build up and the dead are gone in one episode... Arya didn't really deserve to kill the Night King either. It should have been Jon. Or even Dany. Disappointing.
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Post by Potato on Apr 28, 2019 21:34:09 GMT -5
Not to be a downer, but I'm a lot less hyped for the last 3 episodes now... the ending here was great, but it felt more like it should have been the series finale.
And did they really kill Ghost off screen? And what the hell was with the Dothraki suicide run at the beginning? What were they trying to accomplish?
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 28, 2019 22:20:50 GMT -5
Bruh
Well a bit to unpack I guess... First of all I thought this was going to be a morning battle. I wish it was I couldn't see shit.. But maybe that was so they could skimp on the cgi. Less people died than I was expecting which is good. What was it, Ed, Beric, Theon, Melisandre, the Mormont girl (Lyanna? Idk) and Jorah? Fuck I thought Jorah was going to be safe especially after the girl died. Which was brutal by the way did not think they would kill her. Did Grey Worm get killed I'm not sure? But yeah I'd say Jorah and Beric were the worst for me. I liked them, especially Jorah.
Really thought Sansa and Tyrion were going to kill themselves... lol. But I thought magic protected the crypt or something. And also were there really no soldiers in the crypt? Just like 3 could've saved everyone I don't think there were that many dead bodies there.
But yeah what the fuck Arya got the kill? Seriously what the fuck. Night King said not a single word I really thought he would speak at last. But no just like that it's all over. Also what the hell were Jon and Daenerys even doing? Just fucking around? Coulda gone after the Night King he was alone and it was two dragons agains one.
I wonder what Bran was doing when he warged, that has to be something significant. I know some epic duel between Jon and Night King would've been predictable but I don't care it would've been satisfying.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 22:26:26 GMT -5
Fuck this shit. The first 70 minutes were amazing... and then it just... ended like that. It's bullshit. The Night King was pathetic. And the fact that if he dies all White Walkers die is completely ridiculous. None of the prophecies mattered, it was all bullshit too. Arya didn't fulfill anything.
Now I guess we will have three episodes of taking down Cersei... but who cares? That's nothing special. The White Walkers were new and scary and seemed unstoppable... Cersei is just a dumb idiot. And sure, maybe she wins... but who cares at this point? I get that they want Cersei to be the big villain... the mad queen... But come, on... The Night King should not have died so early and so abruptly.
This series is fucked. It was fun while it lasted.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 28, 2019 22:26:55 GMT -5
Whatever I'm just glad Brienne and Jamie are still alive. They're my favorites. Was worried about Tormund glad he's still around as well.
Part of me thinks in a way it makes sense for there to be no depth to the Night King. The enemy is death itself and he is just its face. The other part thinks this is a drama show with complicated characters and plotlines. They're really just gonna be like sike it was a zombie show all along? I don't like that tbh. Game of Thrones is a Potato is Awesomeing zombie show... Not a show about power struggles in a fantasy medieval setting but a Potato is Awesomeing zombie show... Like Walking Dead...
Bruh
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 28, 2019 22:31:09 GMT -5
Wait is there something with Arya, the dagger, and Beric? Did Bran change the past?
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 22:33:01 GMT -5
Wait is there something with Arya, the dagger, and Beric? Did Bran change the past? In the book Beric died to revive Catlyn Stark. So Beric is pretty much irrelevant. |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 22:39:32 GMT -5
But seriously. What was the point of the Three Eyed Raven? Acting as bait? That's his entire purpose now?
And I guess the Mad King really was mad because he definitely didn't contribute to taking down the Night King with his wildfire. Also, kind of lucky that the dagger could kill the NK because he was imune ro dragonfire.
It's 5:40 AM right now and I should be sleeping but I am seriously pissed about this.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 28, 2019 22:46:38 GMT -5
But seriously. What was the point of the Three Eyed Raven? Acting as bait? That's his entire purpose now? And I guess the Mad King really was mad because he definitely didn't contribute to taking down the Night King with his wildfire. Also, kind of lucky that the dagger could kill the NK because he was imune ro dragonfire. It's 5:40 AM right now and I should be sleeping but I am seriously pissed about this. Why tf didn't they use wildfire |
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 22:47:31 GMT -5
Also... aside from the Night King the White Walkers didn't do anything at all... all that build up and Arya just 1v1s their leader.
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Post by Pinda on Apr 28, 2019 22:48:54 GMT -5
But seriously. What was the point of the Three Eyed Raven? Acting as bait? That's his entire purpose now? And I guess the Mad King really was mad because he definitely didn't contribute to taking down the Night King with his wildfire. Also, kind of lucky that the dagger could kill the NK because he was imune ro dragonfire. It's 5:40 AM right now and I should be sleeping but I am seriously pissed about this. Why tf didn't they use wildfire That's what I was thinking too. Step 1. Hide lots of wildfire casks in the snow. Step 2. Lure the undead. Step 3. BOOM! Easy win. |
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it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 