Game of Thrones

That's weird.... That was one of the best finales.....

Uh Ok.

I don't understand how people DO like Breaking Bad... It was one of the most boring series I ever watched. I just kept watching hoping it would eventually get interesting (since everyone seemed to like it so much) but that never happened... I really do not understand how people think that gets anywhere near the level of GOT. Even if they have bad writing/episodes (like season 7) the overall story is still really good and interesting... while Breaking Bad is just 5 seasons of the same thing, pretty much.

Hmm. Well BB is definitely more subtle in a lot of ways, but I like it for that reason. More undertones. Deeper meaning (human nature). More approachable. 

bottom line is that not everyone likes the same shows and that's okay  

True, not everyone likes the same shows... and Breaking Bad and GOT are very different shows, so they are hard to compare... Still I think GOT has a lot of undertones, deeper meanings and vague foreshadowing/parallels. And there are plenty of series I do not really like, but often I can see why others would like them... With Breaking Bad, I have no idea why people like it... so the fact that so many people consider it one of the best series ever is something I do not quite understand... especially when more complex and developed series like GOT exist.

I like Breaking Bad but with GOT there's just no comparison.

Well, if you never watched Last Airbender as a child you would probably not like Korra as much anyway...

Not one season of Breaking Bad was well bad... Even when they divided Season 5 into two parts it was still fantastic. I'm willing to bet Game of Thrones took the gamble to divide the last 2 seasons into smaller 7/8 episode seasons because they saw it was successful on Breaking Bad and so far they are failing.


Game of Thrones has had multiple poorly written and just meh seasons, Breaking Bad is by far superior

That's not at all why they did it. They were originally going for 7 seasons, but HBO wanted to add another... the writers/directors refused to do another full season, so 13 episodes spread over 2 seasons was the compromise. They should have listened to HBO...

And I will grant you all Breaking Bad episodes were the same quality, but in my opinion even the worst GOT episodes were more entertaining to watch than anything in that series... Honestly I found myself bored throughout a lot of it... I have seen worse series, ones I just could not even get through, but GOT's story is by far superior.

Really though, how did like almost no one die this season?

Also they just can't afford 10 episodes per season. It's so much work to film 10 episodes. It takes 12 animators 6 months to fully CGI one dragon scene. Not to mention actually filming these large scale battles. It's tiresome for both the crew and actors and they don't have the time or the money. I'm glad they can put these large scale game changing beauty battles if it means a cost of 3 episodes. They can't afford it. 30 million per episode is too much. And the directors can't direct longer than they are given and writers can't get paid nearly as much. 6 episodes for supersize episodes is gonna take longer to film then 10 episodes. And the set pieces and production is going to be doubled of this season. On business perspective and just what can be done - 6 episodes is healthy for the cost of rushed episodes. And it's only predictable because we're near the end. There's only so much you can do and these plots have been written out before we even knew. It's only predictable because the show is finally closing in on it's endgame.

So, I finished Feast of Crows a few days ago... definitely the worst of the books (so far). Everything is just so slow... But the ending is really weird and seems very important...

When Sam arrives at the Citadel he has to wait a really long time to see the archmaesters... but he is approached by a man who works for some kind of rogue Archmaester and asks Sam to come with him. The rogue Archmaester knew Sam was coming to the Citadel. In his office he has some kind of strange dragonglass candle. When Sam asks the man how he knew about his arrival at the Citadel he nods to the candle. Later explains that: "The sorcerers of the Freehold could see across mountains, seas, and deserts with one of these glass candles. They could enter a man's dreams and give him visions, and speak to one another half a world apart, seated before their candles."

So basically these candles work like Weirwood trees/Bran/Three-eyed Raven. But this random Archmaester and his apprentices all seem to be able to use it to some extend... So in theory someone could have used these candles to manipulate other characters... Seems like a pretty important thing... I don't understand why I never heard about this before reading the book.

Yeah I'm making my way through Fest of Crows and it does seem pretty boring but ya gotta get through it I guess.

Well said. I think everyone's being a bit harsh... yeah, it's gotten sort of predictable, but that's only because it's following the pattern that all good stories do. At this point, we have our clear heroes (Jon and Daenerys) and clear villains (Cersei and the Night King). I think we can all safely assume neither of those villains are going to win (even though I do think it would be cool if the Night King came out on top, but that clearly won't happen). It's the heroes journey that they're following, it's just taken a while to get there.

And I also don't think number of deaths makes or breaks a season. Just because no one super important died this season means it's more lackluster than the others. I think we've all been kind of spoiled with all the surprise deaths and twists, and it's gotten to the point where everyone expects everything now. Nothing surprises them. Ironically, Littlefinger this season also had a speech about playing every scenario in your head and never being surprised about anything.

Am I the only one who wants to know wtf happened to Edmure?