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Post by Newan on Jun 13, 2015 16:35:42 GMT -5
The mountain didn't really die though, did he? He thought he was just seriously injured/dying and that one maester was keeping him alive. I'm pretty sure Zuma and Nam said he died in the books but was in a lot of pain for three weeks. In the show however I believe he is alive but he's probably going to look pretty twisted and weird after what Frankenstein did to him... |
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Post by Newan on Jun 14, 2015 19:53:05 GMT -5
Finale in 8 mins  I feel like there may be too much for one episode... |
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Post by Newan on Jun 14, 2015 21:12:00 GMT -5
That finale actually kind of sucked IMO… Probably the worst in the show to go along with the worst season.
Too many storylines made the episode all over the place and things happened really fast with very little in the way of answers, there isn’t much I liked at all.
We have no clue if Stannis actually died tbh I don’t think he did and he pulled some kind of move like I think he may have ducked and Briennes sword hit the tree while he then stabbed her.
Why did the sorceress actually abandon him as well… And where did Davos go while they all stabbed Jon. And what was that with his blood at the end? I think she may revive him or something idk.
I was right that Theon would help Sansa though everybody at school said I was crazy for that but then they just jump the wall… They either landed in deep snow or died.
The Arya stuff was kind of weird. The Dany stuff was pretty weird as well and I don’t think she was in Westeros those horse people don’t seem right…
Idk nothing seemed right with this episode, it was just all over the place. The Cersei stuff might have been the most competent thing of them all but I’m glad she got that, I don’t like here.
Oh the Tyrion scene with Varys… Yeah that was the best part by far. Plus the conversation before with Jorah.
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Post by Newan on Jun 14, 2015 21:14:03 GMT -5
Wait maybe that’s why she went to the wall cause she knew that would happen to Jon and she can benefit or something…
Oh I didn’t mind the Jaime scenes as well those were pretty good but I knew she poisoned her when she kissed her on the lips for like 10 seconds
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Post by Newan on Jun 14, 2015 21:37:06 GMT -5
Also saw a comment about that guy with the eye patch who got revived by the lord of light a lot so yeah Jon didn’t die  I don’t think anyone believes that. If Stannis men didn’t leave him he would have crushed them. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 14, 2015 22:07:37 GMT -5
Just saw "Conleth Hill" in the opening credits!  |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 0:42:02 GMT -5
Fuck it. How many people died in that episode?
There was like Selyse, Stannis, Myranda, Sansa, Theon, Meryn Trant, Myrcella, and then Jon Snow. They got me with Jaqen. I thought he was dead. I already knew about Jon and Selyse had been spoiled. Meryn was really obvious but really satisfying. I feel like I should've seen Myrcella coming but it happened when I felt like they were gonna get away. Stannis I thought might die. Myranda I don't care about. But Sansa and Theon? Damn. I was like "oh my god hell no" I thought it was really good. I actually felt bad for Cersei. I liked the Mereen stuff although IDK how Varys got there. I guess they put in that Benjen thing to throw everybody off. I doubt he'll be back now. And now Danerys found more Dothraki I guess? Remember how Viserys said he'd let all the Dothraki and their horses rape Daenerys? I think this is the part where that happens.
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Post by bane on Jun 15, 2015 1:16:39 GMT -5
Wait maybe that’s why she went to the wall cause she knew that would happen to Jon and she can benefit or something… Oh I didn’t mind the Jaime scenes as well those were pretty good but I knew she poisoned her when she kissed her on the lips for like 10 seconds Yeah, I get the feeling she didn't just show up by coincidence. But were will will he go from there? The watch wants him dead, what's he gonna do? That's been his whole purpose in life. |
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Post by bane on Jun 15, 2015 1:18:46 GMT -5
Theoretically half the characters might not have died, because they cut away just before. Maybe the writers are having a harder time even deciding if they're gonna live, since they don't really have the books to tell them what to do.
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Post by Newan on Jun 15, 2015 1:33:47 GMT -5
I'm rewatching it on the 12AM one now and no Theon and Sansa didn't die I looked and the snow piled up against the wall was really high it would have broke the fall for both of them. Jon isn't dead who actually believes that? He will be revived by the lord of light like the eyepatch guy from season 3 I believe. There's a reasons she went to the wall.
Stannis isn't confirmed to be dead I think he's still alive, it's a lot more realistic then some believing The Hound is alive.
Also the Mountain is back but I don't think he can speak anyways...
Oh it's also not confirmed the poison on Myrcella is lethal
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Post by Newan on Jun 15, 2015 1:34:32 GMT -5
Jon is going to have a different role though probably not at the wall
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 6:52:58 GMT -5
As much as I hated Stannis in the last episode I felt really bad for him in this one, GOT is good at making you change your opinion on characters... I think he really thought he did the right thing, to save the realm, by sacrificing Shireen and when half his soldiers left, his wife committed suicide and Melisandre abandoned him I felt pretty bad for him. I bet he regret killing Shireen now. Also, I think Melisandre may have been right about the burning Bolton banners, since Littlefinger is still on his way to Winterfell with an army.
From the moment his wife committed suicide I was certain Stannis would die. His family is dead, his army gone, Melisandre abandoned him and Davos is probably going to do the same. I don't see what else they could do with Stannis. But his dead was left suspiciously unclear, for a show that has no problem with showing graphic deaths (like the one that followed a few minutes later).
As for Sansa and Theon, I'm fairly certain they are alive. Especially Sansa, I'm sure they have more planned for her.
Varys returned, which is cool, I always liked him. And Tyrion ruling over Mereen is interesting. Deanarys' story wasn't that great this episode though. But I'm guessing most of next season will have Jorah and Daario looking for her.
I knew Jon Snow would get stabbed (thanks Runescape reddit trolls), I didn't know exactly how though. But as soon as they mentioned Benjen Stark I knew it was a trap. But yeah, Melisandre is there for a reason... I was a bit disappointed by the scene with Davos though, I would have liked to see him react more to Shireen's death. But I guess he might have reacted more extreme if he had any details.
But yeah, this finale had too much going on. There were too many stories to close and it just made the finale feel rushed (they could have cut a few minutes from Cersei's story though).
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 6:53:38 GMT -5
Wait maybe that’s why she went to the wall cause she knew that would happen to Jon and she can benefit or something… Oh I didn’t mind the Jaime scenes as well those were pretty good but I knew she poisoned her when she kissed her on the lips for like 10 seconds Yeah, the posoining was kind of obvious... You should never touch a Dornish person. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 6:55:25 GMT -5
Theoretically half the characters might not have died, because they cut away just before. Maybe the writers are having a harder time even deciding if they're gonna live, since they don't really have the books to tell them what to do. I'm pretty sure George RR Martin is telling them about the plot of the future books. He also told them to sacrifice Shireen. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 6:58:00 GMT -5
Maybe Jon can use his death as a loophole in the Nightswatch rules. If he died and somehow came back to live he basically is released from his vows, because "Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death."
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 7:02:48 GMT -5
Nice Julius Caesar reference by the way.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 7:11:43 GMT -5
Kit Harrington (actor that plays Jon Snow) confirmed Jon Snow is dead, and he will not be back in season 6. He could be lying to mess with our heads even more though.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 8:21:31 GMT -5
And where were Ghost and the wildlings? Surely one of them would have wanted to save Jon? I mean, the survival of the wildlings probably depends on Jon.
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Post by Newan on Jun 15, 2015 8:55:52 GMT -5
Jon is going to be back I think. And now the wildlings have no reason to keep peace with the crows...
I forgot about Littlefinger moving with an army. Tbh the Boltons are fucking stupid they lost too many men in a frontal assault when they could have defended from the gates...
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Post by Newan on Jun 15, 2015 8:56:13 GMT -5
Tyrion ruling again is what I most want to see
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 9:44:45 GMT -5
Oh wait, apparently Sansa and Thein aren't supposed to be dead. But IDK how they could really be alive TBH. I mean, we saw a fall from that height was enough to kill Myranda and what they were doing seemed like suicide.
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 9:54:30 GMT -5
Nice Julius Caesar reference by the way. Et tu Olly? Now for Sam to come back and play Marc Antony. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 10:23:24 GMT -5
Oh wait, apparently Sansa and Thein aren't supposed to be dead. But IDK how they could really be alive TBH. I mean, we saw a fall from that height was enough to kill Myranda and what they were doing seemed like suicide. The snow saved them. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 11:50:50 GMT -5
It's funny. The Starks had a red wedding in Season 3. But the Lannisters got destroyed just as bad on Season 4. And the House Baratheon seems completely annihilated in Season 5. Whatever happened to the Tyrells?
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Post by Pinda on Jun 15, 2015 15:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 16:16:41 GMT -5
Of all of the Five Kings that fought in the war, only one is still alive and it's Balon fucking Greyjoy!
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Post by Spidyyr on Jun 15, 2015 19:05:37 GMT -5
So, do you think Jorah wil find Daenerys before the greyscale takes over?
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Post by Newan on Jun 15, 2015 19:32:37 GMT -5
So, do you think Jorah wil find Daenerys before the greyscale takes over? I think he may end up finding a cure tbh somehow... |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 17, 2015 8:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on Jun 17, 2015 11:32:32 GMT -5
So new list... 1. Tyrion Lannister 2. Jaime Lannister 3. Bronn 4. Jorah 5. Ramsay 6. Arya Stark 7. Varys 8. Margaery 9. Davos 10. King of the Dead (or the MOFO who resurrected people) Seems a lot of the character I like though died, I could have added Stannis and Jon since both could very well be alive but I didn't. But Ned, The Hound, Robb, Tywin, Ygritte, Myrcella, Oberyn are all dead I liked a lot of them, I could probably make a better list of dead characters I like then current ones. |
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I feel like there may be too much for one episode...
I don’t think anyone believes that.
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