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Post by ?6 (CBK) on May 31, 2014 8:34:52 GMT -5
I don't know if you guys read this or not but I got the first volume/episode of The Son of Dathomir. And all I can say wtf Disney! This episode in the series was fantastic! The episode is what all the fans wanted! It really did explain alot of the reasons behind Maul, Sidious, and Talzin. If you don't want to read it, the Summary is in the spoilers. The episode first starts off with Sidious imprisoning Maul on his mega fortress of a planet, Stygeon. The planet is much like Serenno, but darker and covered in snow. Two Deathwatch soldiers named Rook and Gar ask Sidious to free Maul under the orders of Almec. (We still don't know what happened to Mandalore yet though) The next scene is of Maul and Dooku. It was quite interesting seeing how the two react to each other. Maul is not really scared of Dooku, but you see the tension between the two. Sidious and Dooku then reveal that they need Maul in order to lure Mother Talzin because she has a history with Sidious. It is revealed that Talzin gave away Maul to Sidious (Quite cool) The dark scene is my favorite because I swear the show get's darker and darker. Dooku interrogates Maul, electrocuting him, torturing him. Kind of sad to see Maul has not gotten an easy ride. The Death Watch hatch a plan to free Maul. Stygeon is bombed as Death Watch invade the prison cells and free Maul.
As they escape, Dooku tells Grievous to stop the Death Watch. The Death Watch's ships are chased by the Seperatists fleet to Zanbar, Mandalore's moon, where the epic battle takes place.
Almec tells Maul that he freed him because Maul freed him back on Mandalore. (I kind of liked their relationship) Grievious' massive fleet begins their march on the Death Watch. Maul reclaims his Dark Saber and tells the Death Watch that "War has started". The battle between the Droids and the Death Watch was amazing. If only we could've seen this on the big screen....
Grievous duels Maul, a longer battle than even againgst Sidious. Due to Maul being so weak from the torture Grievous beats him and Maul orders a retreat.
So that's basically the summary. SO EPIC! |
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Post by Pinda on May 31, 2014 8:41:34 GMT -5
Any online version of this comic?
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on May 31, 2014 8:43:43 GMT -5
Any online version of this comic? I haven't found one for free yet, but I'll keep looking  |
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Post by Pinda on May 31, 2014 9:04:15 GMT -5
Any online version of this comic? I haven't found one for free yet, but I'll keep looking Found and watched it: |
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Post by Pinda on May 31, 2014 9:04:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}But yes, this would have been awesome. The Maul VS Grievous fight seemed a bit short though. But this comic once again proofs TCW was only getting better... |
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Post by Potato on May 31, 2014 11:20:04 GMT -5
Oh, awesome.  I'm going to watch it now. |
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Post by Potato on May 31, 2014 11:43:55 GMT -5
Just watched the whole thing (sort of cool how it ended up being the actual length of an episode  ). Damn, this would have been really good. Maul vs. Grievous and droids vs. Death Watch. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on May 31, 2014 12:28:32 GMT -5
I can alreadt see it play out as one of the best TCW episodes ever!
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 31, 2014 13:02:45 GMT -5
I'll watch it later, but reading those spoilers makes this arc sound so darn epic it hurts In fact it hurts even more so it wasn't animated. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Jun 1, 2014 9:46:32 GMT -5
I'll watch it later, but reading those spoilers makes this arc sound so darn epic it hurts In fact it hurts even more so it wasn't animated. I know right! Sucks to know we would never get to see this Arc. This might have even been the arc that's the best Arc to date. And if it was animated we would definately see more Sidious then, and I'm still not liking Sidious' new actor who's voicing him. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jun 1, 2014 10:08:00 GMT -5
I'll watch it later, but reading those spoilers makes this arc sound so darn epic it hurts In fact it hurts even more so it wasn't animated. I know right! Sucks to know we would never get to see this Arc. This might have even been the arc that's the best Arc to date. And if it was animated we would definately see more Sidious then, and I'm still not liking Sidious' new actor who's voicing him. I think it's better to say he's the new actor that voiced Sidious, what with TCW getting the axe |
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2014 17:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2014 17:34:21 GMT -5
Ill watch it myself soon |
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Post by Potato on Jun 25, 2014 18:03:23 GMT -5
Cool, thanks. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2014 18:08:08 GMT -5
Just watched it. {Spoiler}I can see why Maul wants the CIS leaders dead but it really doesn't seem smart... The Republic would still crush him afterwards. And Maul isn't a good enough lightsaber combatant to match with any higher member of the council. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 25, 2014 18:36:11 GMT -5
That was pretty good. Although the art and ordering of the pictures sometimes makes it hard to understand what's going on... And it was really interesting to learn that Maul did everything he did since his resurrection because Talzin told him to. It was all just for Sidious... which is both good and bad. It's good and pretty cool because it ties everything back to Sidious being the ultimate bad guy and it makes Talzin a much more interesting character. It's bad because it sort of degrades Maul's character. He's basically just a mindless henchman for Talzin. Nothing he did while building his army was because he wanted to, it was all just because Talzin wanted him to. It sort of makes Maul's motivations bad, whereas before I could understand why he was doing everything he did. Also, I don't understand why the Black Sun and the Pykes are still following Maul. I think they had to leave Mandalore since they're all here now, which means they probably lost the battle there. Plus Maul already got captured once. So why are they still following him? I think a lot of them did it so they could take part in ruling Mandalore, but they aren't even fighting for Mandalore anymore, they're fighting for a personal feud between Sidious and Talzin. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 25, 2014 18:36:53 GMT -5
And I didn't say all that because I didn't like it, I really liked it. I was just pointing out the problems I think this arc has so far.
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2014 18:44:50 GMT -5
Yeah it doesn't really make sense that his mercenary forces follow Maul? Maul isn't really wealthy either so it's not like he can pay them all off. I think and I hope they both die. Mauls character does kinda seem a bit pointless now or a lot less so then before (I never really agreded with reviving him anyways there's no reason why he should be alive).
But what is Maul after now? I thought at first he wanted to return to Sidious side and prove himself even though he wouldn't allow that. Now does he want to control the entire confederacy? But that doesn't make sense either he would get crushed by the republic. Maul doesn't have the influence and Wealth Dooku and Sidious has. Plus without Sidious and Dooku no order 66. The Jedi would easily prevail.
Seems like Maul is just going on some temper tantrum now to get rid of people he and Talzin don't like with no looking at the long term. (Sounds like Lucifer from Supernatural).
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Post by Newan on Jun 25, 2014 18:51:23 GMT -5
Added the subtitle thing so people know they can watch it |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 1:19:53 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2014 2:01:04 GMT -5
Thanks. I like free shit I'll probably watch it tomorrow. |
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Post by Namialus on Jun 26, 2014 9:43:32 GMT -5
I believe it's the end of July.. |
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2014 11:44:23 GMT -5
Yeah, Part 3's like July 20th or somewhere around there and then Part 4's towards the end of August.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2014 15:26:03 GMT -5
Well that was interesting... but there seem to be some plotholes. For example, why are the separatists trying to lure Talzin to them if they KNOW she is on Dathomir? They even had spies near to Dathomir and when they saw a ship leave the planet they were almost certain it was her... if they were that certain why didn't they just bomb Dathomir? And Maul working for Talzin? It doesn't make too much sense... All he did seemed to be to get revenge on Kenobi. I doubt Talzin cares about Kenobi. Besides, he was seriously surprised when Sidious walked into the throne room and I'm sure he wouldn't have been willing to sacrifice Savage. And what if Sidious had killed him? Or what if Maul's rescue had failed? And why are all these criminals willing to risk their life for Maul?
Also, Talzin never really spoke to Maul when she revived him. And I'm sure she didn't contact him just before he teamed-up with the Death Watch to tell him what she was up to. It really feels like they just made up this story a long time after they came up with the Maul/Death Watch arc. Nothing in the previous arcs makes it look like this was intended.
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 15:35:15 GMT -5
Well that was interesting... but there seem to be some plotholes. For example, why are the separatists trying to lure Talzin to them if they KNOW she is on Dathomir? They even had spies near to Dathomir and when they saw a ship leave the planet they were almost certain it was her... if they were that certain why didn't they just bomb Dathomir? And Maul working for Talzin? It doesn't make too much sense... All he did seemed to be to get revenge on Kenobi. I doubt Talzin cares about Kenobi. Besides, he was seriously surprised when Sidious walked into the throne room and I'm sure he wouldn't have been willing to sacrifice Savage. And what if Sidious had killed him? Or what if Maul's rescue had failed? And why are all these criminals willing to risk their life for Maul? Also, Talzin never really spoke to Maul when she revived him. And I'm sure she didn't contact him just before he teamed-up with the Death Watch to tell him what she was up to. It really feels like they just made up this story a long time after they came up with the Maul/Death Watch arc. Nothing in the previous arcs makes it look like this was intended. And like I said earlier this plan has no sense to it really. Yes Maul and Talzin want revenge on the confederacy but the Jedi would still crush them afterwards. Especially after Mandalore and Windus encounter in the bonus. If they did manage to kill all 3 CIS leaders they wouldn't get far after. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2014 15:41:20 GMT -5
Well that was interesting... but there seem to be some plotholes. For example, why are the separatists trying to lure Talzin to them if they KNOW she is on Dathomir? They even had spies near to Dathomir and when they saw a ship leave the planet they were almost certain it was her... if they were that certain why didn't they just bomb Dathomir? And Maul working for Talzin? It doesn't make too much sense... All he did seemed to be to get revenge on Kenobi. I doubt Talzin cares about Kenobi. Besides, he was seriously surprised when Sidious walked into the throne room and I'm sure he wouldn't have been willing to sacrifice Savage. And what if Sidious had killed him? Or what if Maul's rescue had failed? And why are all these criminals willing to risk their life for Maul? Also, Talzin never really spoke to Maul when she revived him. And I'm sure she didn't contact him just before he teamed-up with the Death Watch to tell him what she was up to. It really feels like they just made up this story a long time after they came up with the Maul/Death Watch arc. Nothing in the previous arcs makes it look like this was intended. And like I said earlier this plan has no sense to it really. Yes Maul and Talzin want revenge on the confederacy but the Jedi would still crush them afterwards. Especially after Mandalore and Windus encounter in the bonus. If they did manage to kill all 3 CIS leaders they wouldn't get far after. Well, I think their goal is to just kill Sidious. They only captured Grievous and Dooku to lure Sidious out. Why they want to kill Sidious is a different question though... |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 15:44:33 GMT -5
And like I said earlier this plan has no sense to it really. Yes Maul and Talzin want revenge on the confederacy but the Jedi would still crush them afterwards. Especially after Mandalore and Windus encounter in the bonus. If they did manage to kill all 3 CIS leaders they wouldn't get far after. Well, I think their goal is to just kill Sidious. They only captured Grievous and Dooku to lure Sidious out. Why they want to kill Sidious is a different question though... They would probably kill all 3. Even with Sidious dead the CIS total defeat happens within the year and Maul dies as well. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2014 15:46:34 GMT -5
Well, I think their goal is to just kill Sidious. They only captured Grievous and Dooku to lure Sidious out. Why they want to kill Sidious is a different question though... They would probably kill all 3. Even with Sidious dead the CIS total defeat happens within the year and Maul dies as well. Maul could just go into hiding or rebuild his criminal empire. The Jedi don't seem to be interested in what's going on with Maul at all. Also, couldn't Talzin just call the Jedi Order and tell them Sidious is Palpatine? That would be far easier than their current plan. |
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 15:50:43 GMT -5
They would probably kill all 3. Even with Sidious dead the CIS total defeat happens within the year and Maul dies as well. Maul could just go into hiding or rebuild his criminal empire. The Jedi don't seem to be interested in what's going on with Maul at all. Also, couldn't Talzin just call the Jedi Order and tell them Sidious is Palpatine? That would be far easier than their current plan. I doubt she knows. With the true sith dead and Grievous gone. Maul would certainly be dead and a bunch of criminals won't stop the Jedi and the entire republic forces (order 66 wouldn't happen). After all what's more important? Killing Majl and Talzin after the CIS is done or settling things like trade disputes? For the Jedi and a huge army that would still be around. |
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Post by Pinda on Jun 26, 2014 15:52:31 GMT -5
Maul could just go into hiding or rebuild his criminal empire. The Jedi don't seem to be interested in what's going on with Maul at all. Also, couldn't Talzin just call the Jedi Order and tell them Sidious is Palpatine? That would be far easier than their current plan. I doubt she knows. With the true sith dead and Grievous gone. Maul would certainly be dead and a bunch of criminals won't stop the Jedi and the entire republic forces (order 66 wouldn't happen). After all what's more important? Killing Majl and Talzin after the CIS is done or settling things like trade disputes? For the Jedi and a huge army that would still be around. I'm sure Maul knows. And why would the Jedi try to chase Maul when the CIS is gone? He's no threat to them anymore and he actually saved the Republic. And they didn't manage to find Maul before, why would they succeed now? |
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I'm going to watch it now.
). Damn, this would have been really good. Maul vs. Grievous and droids vs. Death Watch. 
