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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 16:09:51 GMT -5
I doubt she knows. With the true sith dead and Grievous gone. Maul would certainly be dead and a bunch of criminals won't stop the Jedi and the entire republic forces (order 66 wouldn't happen). After all what's more important? Killing Majl and Talzin after the CIS is done or settling things like trade disputes? For the Jedi and a huge army that would still be around. I'm sure Maul knows. And why would the Jedi try to chase Maul when the CIS is gone? He's no threat to them anymore and he actually saved the Republic. And they didn't manage to find Maul before, why would they succeed now? Do you not know how police forces work? There's always someone else to take out and that would be Maul. He took over a neutral system and he would have taken more. One right for taking out the CIS does not make up for the wrongs. They didn't try to find Maul cause the Chancellor didnt want to make the effort and the Jedi agreded the war had to be won. If there was no war then Maul and his crime syndicate are priority one and there efforts would all be focused on him. Or else a army of hundreds of thousands is being wasted... Most of the people in his crime syndicate would be wanted criminals and terrorists anyways so they're getting rid of all problems... It's pretty common sense.
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Post by Potato on Jun 26, 2014 16:11:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I have to agree that this arc seems to have been made without planning ahead. I think the "I have other uses for you" wasn't totally planned out at the time and they just did it to keep Maul alive, yet even Dave Filoni didn't know why yet. I think they're also trying a bit too hard to connect Talzin with Maul... but it's still enjoyable. If you just sit back and ignore the plot holes it's a good arc so far.
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Post by Newan on Jun 26, 2014 16:16:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I have to agree that this arc seems to have been made without planning ahead. I think the "I have other uses for you" wasn't totally planned out at the time and they just did it to keep Maul alive, yet even Dave Filoni didn't know why yet. I think they're also trying a bit too hard to connect Talzin with Maul... but it's still enjoyable. If you just sit back and ignore the plot holes it's a good arc so far. Other uses is kinda stupid... There's really no benefit with keeping him alive.
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Post by Potato on Jun 28, 2014 0:40:27 GMT -5
So, while I was watching the Maul and Savage vs. Sidious fight from S5 earlier, I think I realized something that supports what we were saying earlier. Sidious' "Do not worry, I'm not going to kill you. I have other uses for you." line was done by Tim Curry (I think a lot of people realized this already, especially because the pitch drops so much). They would have gotten Ian Abercrombie to do it, but since Tim Curry did it Ian probably already passed away. Which means that line was added in later.
So the point of what I'm trying to say is that Sidious sparing Maul was probably decided very later on. Which means this whole story arc might have been a bit last minute which might explain some of the plot holes.
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Post by Newan on Jun 28, 2014 1:10:08 GMT -5
So, while I was watching the Maul and Savage vs. Sidious fight from S5 earlier, I think I realized something that supports what we were saying earlier. Sidious' "Do not worry, I'm not going to kill you. I have other uses for you." line was done by Tim Curry (I think a lot of people realized this already, especially because the pitch drops so much). They would have gotten Ian Abercrombie to do it, but since Tim Curry did it Ian probably already passed away. Which means that line was added in later. So the point of what I'm trying to say is that Sidious sparing Maul was probably decided very later on. Which means this whole story arc might have been a bit last minute which might explain some of the plot holes. So the way I read that... In other words we continued to keep this guy alive at the last second to keep more interest the obviously best arc of Season 5 and make more money off Maul? Even though I find his revival kinda dumb it's even dumber to kill him 5 episodes later.
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Post by Pinda on Jun 28, 2014 5:10:05 GMT -5
I makes sense that it was decided very late in the production. It wasn't in the book with all these spoilers. The book just sad Maul got electrocuted and that was all...
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Post by Potato on Jun 28, 2014 10:42:31 GMT -5
I makes sense that it was decided very late in the production. It wasn't in the book with all these spoilers. The book just sad Maul got electrocuted and that was all... Yeah, and if those were adaptations of the scripts, then maybe that script was even left open ended for a while.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 11, 2014 9:31:32 GMT -5
So this arc was meant to be in S6, right? That means this wasn't meant to be the final arc about Maul. There were sketches for season 7 this was one of them:
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Post by Newan on Jul 11, 2014 11:58:30 GMT -5
So this arc was meant to be in S6, right? That means this wasn't meant to be the final arc about Maul. There were sketches for season 7 this was one of them: View AttachmentSketches don't really matter. This will be last arc now.
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Post by Pinda on Jul 11, 2014 13:20:14 GMT -5
So this arc was meant to be in S6, right? That means this wasn't meant to be the final arc about Maul. There were sketches for season 7 this was one of them: View AttachmentSketches don't really matter. This will be last arc now. I know but it was probably not meant to be. So Maul's fate may remain a mystery.
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Post by Newan on Jul 11, 2014 13:39:28 GMT -5
Sketches don't really matter. This will be last arc now. I know but it was probably not meant to be. So Maul's fate may remain a mystery. Those stories will never be done or else DF wouldn't have given concept art for everything. So they don't matter.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jul 16, 2014 19:03:31 GMT -5
SPOILERS. Just got the new one. Dooku and Maul team up! Against Obi-Wan, Mace, Aayla and Tiplee from the fives arc. Clones vs. Mandos! And It was nice to see Dooku kill Tiplee. (I thought it was going to be maul) I think this is Dooku's first Jedi kill in TCW! And Maul is Talzin's son! And pretty cool idea (and kind of stupid) around the fact that the Jedi thought Maul was Dooku's apprentice because of the team-up. Can't wait for next month for Talzin's probable death by Sidious! (Probably Maul now too since TCW was cancelled. ) This comic gets a 9/10!
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jul 16, 2014 19:11:39 GMT -5
Sketches don't really matter. This will be last arc now. I know but it was probably not meant to be. So Maul's fate may remain a mystery. Doubt it. I'm pretty sure both him and Talzin will die by Sidious in the last comic .
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Jul 16, 2014 19:17:42 GMT -5
SPOILERS. Just got the new one. Dooku and Maul team up! Against Obi-Wan, Mace, Aayla and Tiplee from the fives arc. Clones vs. Mandos! And It was nice to see Dooku kill Tiplee. (I thought it was going to be maul) I think this is Dooku's first Jedi kill in TCW! And Maul is Talzin's son! And pretty cool idea (and kind of stupid) around the fact that the Jedi thought Maul was Dooku's apprentice because of the team-up. Can't wait for next month for Talzin's probable death by Sidious! (Probably Maul now too since TCW was cancelled. ) This comic gets a 9/10! My only complaint was that Grievous escaped like the b!tch he is and didn't help Dooku or Maul.
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Post by Newan on Jul 16, 2014 23:24:59 GMT -5
Grievous never gets any credit
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Post by Pinda on Jul 17, 2014 3:23:26 GMT -5
I know but it was probably not meant to be. So Maul's fate may remain a mystery. Doubt it. I'm pretty sure both him and Talzin will die by Sidious in the last comic . Even if that happens, it's probably not what happened in the script for these episodes.
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Post by Newan on Jul 17, 2014 3:33:25 GMT -5
Doubt it. I'm pretty sure both him and Talzin will die by Sidious in the last comic . Even if that happens, it's probably not what happened in the script for these episodes. One of them had to die...
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Post by Pinda on Jul 17, 2014 3:35:05 GMT -5
Even if that happens, it's probably not what happened in the script for these episodes. One of them had to die... Well, Talzin could die I guess. But I don't think Maul did originally.
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Post by Newan on Jul 17, 2014 3:36:30 GMT -5
One of them had to die... Well, Talzin could die I guess. But I don't think Maul did originally. Whatever they both need to go
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Post by Newan on Jul 25, 2014 18:57:26 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on Jul 25, 2014 19:27:56 GMT -5
It was pretty good but I still don't think Talzin is an equal to Sidious at all. And they both need to die (Talzin and maul).
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Post by Potato on Jul 25, 2014 20:48:13 GMT -5
Oh, cool, thanks! I was wondering when it would be up. I'll watch it soon.
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Post by Potato on Jul 25, 2014 21:57:27 GMT -5
It was pretty good. And LOL, "We finally have that red faced menace in our cross-hairs". It's probably not a good idea for Cody to say that when Tiplee's right by him.
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Post by Potato on Jul 25, 2014 21:58:28 GMT -5
The master and apprentice thing is interesting. It's not exactly how I predicted it, but I was close... And here's another question. This one won't get answered in the bonus content unfortunately, but I think it will get answered in that comic coming out in May. What do you think Sidious' other uses for Maul are? I think it's two possibilities. One could be that it involves Darth Plagueis and Sidious needs Maul's help to kill him, but that's probably less likely, and it would definitely not happen if Plagueis appears in the Yoda arc. The second possibility, which I came up with a while ago and I think is really likely, is that Sidious might try to frame Maul as the sith master during the Clone Wars. I know it might sound far fetched, but it's definitely something Sidious would do (and that the jedi would fall for), especially because it would be Sidious trying to hide his existence more.
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Post by Newan on Jul 25, 2014 22:31:30 GMT -5
The master and apprentice thing is interesting. It's not exactly how I predicted it, but I was close... And here's another question. This one won't get answered in the bonus content unfortunately, but I think it will get answered in that comic coming out in May. What do you think Sidious' other uses for Maul are? I think it's two possibilities. One could be that it involves Darth Plagueis and Sidious needs Maul's help to kill him, but that's probably less likely, and it would definitely not happen if Plagueis appears in the Yoda arc. The second possibility, which I came up with a while ago and I think is really likely, is that Sidious might try to frame Maul as the sith master during the Clone Wars. I know it might sound far fetched, but it's definitely something Sidious would do (and that the jedi would fall for), especially because it would be Sidious trying to hide his existence more. Well I guess you where pretty close. But I I don't think it's far fetched that Dookj could be the master
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Jul 26, 2014 1:25:09 GMT -5
I need to see these videos soon. I haven't even seen the first one Well at least I know what happens
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Post by Newan on Aug 24, 2014 16:33:32 GMT -5
Here is part 4 guys
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Post by Potato on Aug 24, 2014 17:21:02 GMT -5
I'm going to talk spoilers since the title says Spoilers anyway. That was pretty good, definitely the best of the four. It answered some questions that should have been answered earlier on though. The first was why were the Black Sun and the Pykes willing to risk their lives for Maul. Now we know it was all for money. Another was that Talzin was trying to return to physical form. That felt sort of random since it wasn't mentioned up until this point... so does this mean that Talzin's evaporation in The Disappeared Part 2 was when she officially left the physical realm? And I don't really like how Maul was affected more by Talzin's death than Savage's... Talzin's death was epic though, and it was awesome how the big three Separatist leaders had to work together to do it. And I guess this means more Maul since he didn't die. I guess we would have seen is official conclusion in Season 7 or 8. They still have to address that though. I'm curious if it will be another comic or if his death will be inserted into something else like Rebels or something.
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Post by Newan on Aug 24, 2014 18:02:49 GMT -5
I'm going to talk spoilers since the title says Spoilers anyway. That was pretty good, definitely the best of the four. It answered some questions that should have been answered earlier on though. The first was why were the Black Sun and the Pykes willing to risk their lives for Maul. Now we know it was all for money. Another was that Talzin was trying to return to physical form. That felt sort of random since it wasn't mentioned up until this point... so does this mean that Talzin's evaporation in The Disappeared Part 2 was when she officially left the physical realm? And I don't really like how Maul was affected more by Talzin's death than Savage's... Talzin's death was epic though, and it was awesome how the big three Separatist leaders had to work together to do it. And I guess this means more Maul since he didn't die. I guess we would have seen is official conclusion in Season 7 or 8. They still have to address that though. I'm curious if it will be another comic or if his death will be inserted into something else like Rebels or something. I like how Grievous killed her since he probably would have in season 4 anyways if she didn't teleport away. They're making Grievous a lot stronger now like how he beat Kenobi in the youngling arc. Maul should have died this is just going too far now by keeping him alive honestly he's over rated at this point and it's obvious that they use Maul to get most of the attention really... Way over hyped. I'm starting to not like him as much as I did during the season 5 arc. And yes I don't see why he was so sad that Talzin died. And I think they made Talzin OP anyways. Also Maul is in the Vos/ Ventress novel
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Post by Newan on Aug 24, 2014 18:03:28 GMT -5
Hopefully Obi-Wan decapitates him in that and ends his miserable over use of his character...
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