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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 19, 2014 15:07:45 GMT -5
To make this clear:
Clones are NOT PROGRAMMED. But the Tumor IS. The tumor is planted in the ealry stages of the embryo. Because clones have a fast grow rate then normal beings in the galaxy the skulland the flesh of the head is rather quickly developed and the tumor is hidden. It is hidden even for the clones for they have no idea they possess such a thing on their brains. It activates Order 66 and makes them mindless Jedi hunting killers (that's why Cody suddenly made that suprising shift in Episode III)
There you have it. The Clone are not programmed. They are truly trained but the tumor prevents their individual thinking once activated and puts all their training into full Jedi hunt mode, no matter how close a Clone is to one of his Jedi Generals.
Hope this clears things up
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Feb 19, 2014 15:20:41 GMT -5
I think the council was established as idiots way earlier on  So was the fact that Sidious is awesome. But this arc just displayed it once more So, did you watch the episodes? Or did you just read the spoilers here anyway? The latter I think I'll watch them, when they're on YouTube in English. A long wait I know, but at least I have the spoilers |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 22, 2014 17:31:38 GMT -5
Palpatine is a genius! Everything in this arc was part of his plan to get full control over the banking clan.  It's awesome. Pretty much all of the bonus content seems to focus on Palpatine's plans. I love it  The music was really good in the Clovis arc, the dark music that plays on the background when we see Palpatine or Dooku manipulating is great. And the animation was very good too. They also killed off two returning characters (Teckla and Clovis). I actually really like Clovis now. I hated him after his first appearance, but now... he's a very good character from story perspective. The only thing I hate about this arc is how limited Embo's role was. He appeared in the first episode, killed Teckla (like I predicted about two years ago ) and was fired by Sidious. Pretty much all his screen time was in the previews. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 22, 2014 17:32:51 GMT -5
Also, it's now scientifically proven that yelling "For the Republic" is a bad idea.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 6:11:17 GMT -5
I haven't read the spoilers because i haven't seen it yet!  There is no download for it yet and i can't find it anywhere else. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 7:15:33 GMT -5
Let me summarize this arc: Anakin doesn't like Clovis. Bail Organa doesn't like Clovis. Padme likes Clovis. Padme does not like Anakin not liking Clovis. Obi-wan does not like Anakin liking Padme. Anakin does not like Obi-wan not liking that Anakin likes Padme or that Padme doesn't like him not liking Clovis.
In the other news: Yoda and Windu are idiots. Palpatine is awesome.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 8:45:13 GMT -5
Palpatine is a genius! Everything in this arc was part of his plan to get full control over the banking clan. It's awesome. Pretty much all of the bonus content seems to focus on Palpatine's plans. I love it The music was really good in the Clovis arc, the dark music that plays on the background when we see Palpatine or Dooku manipulating is great. And the animation was very good too. They also killed off two returning characters (Teckla and Clovis). I actually really like Clovis now. I hated him after his first appearance, but now... he's a very good character from story perspective. The only thing I hate about this arc is how limited Embo's role was. He appeared in the first episode, killed Teckla (like I predicted about two years ago ) and was fired by Sidious. Pretty much all his screen time was in the previews. When Teckla appeared in this arc i she was going to die. Too bad though, i liked her. I kinda expected this screen time for Embo so i wasn't dissappointed. Like you said, Clovis was the real star of his own arc. In Senate Spy he was good, but here he was great! After this arc we can define him as an actual good characer. His death was also (though a bit cliche) very well done and looked really epic. The Animation was amazing! I can just watch these facial expressions alone for hours and never get bored. And we finally went deeper into Anakin and Padme's relationship, how it is a difficult yet true one. Oh, and just like you said, Sidious, you amazing genius! Stop being such a good villian!  |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 9:25:09 GMT -5
Palpatine is a genius! Everything in this arc was part of his plan to get full control over the banking clan. It's awesome. Pretty much all of the bonus content seems to focus on Palpatine's plans. I love it The music was really good in the Clovis arc, the dark music that plays on the background when we see Palpatine or Dooku manipulating is great. And the animation was very good too. They also killed off two returning characters (Teckla and Clovis). I actually really like Clovis now. I hated him after his first appearance, but now... he's a very good character from story perspective. The only thing I hate about this arc is how limited Embo's role was. He appeared in the first episode, killed Teckla (like I predicted about two years ago ) and was fired by Sidious. Pretty much all his screen time was in the previews. When Teckla appeared in this arc i she was going to die. Too bad though, i liked her. I kinda expected this screen time for Embo so i wasn't dissappointed. Like you said, Clovis was the real star of his own arc. In Senate Spy he was good, but here he was great! After this arc we can define him as an actual good characer. His death was also (though a bit cliche) very well done and looked really epic. The Animation was amazing! I can just watch these facial expressions alone for hours and never get bored. And we finally went deeper into Anakin and Padme's relationship, how it is a difficult yet true one. Oh, and just like you said, Sidious, you amazing genius! Stop being such a good villian! The animation is indeed very great! I want to see what the S8 finale animation would have looked like so badly now. And Clovis was a very well developed for a character that only had 5 episodes. I wonder what the last 2,5 seasons would have been about... the bonus content seems to be getting be getting very close to the end of the war. I bet it would have focused on the Outer Rim sieges and possibly Order 66. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 10:00:38 GMT -5
When Teckla appeared in this arc i she was going to die. Too bad though, i liked her. I kinda expected this screen time for Embo so i wasn't dissappointed. Like you said, Clovis was the real star of his own arc. In Senate Spy he was good, but here he was great! After this arc we can define him as an actual good characer. His death was also (though a bit cliche) very well done and looked really epic. The Animation was amazing! I can just watch these facial expressions alone for hours and never get bored. And we finally went deeper into Anakin and Padme's relationship, how it is a difficult yet true one. Oh, and just like you said, Sidious, you amazing genius! Stop being such a good villian! The animation is indeed very great! I want to see what the S8 finale animation would have looked like so badly now. And Clovis was a very well developed for a character that only had 5 episodes. I wonder what the last 2,5 seasons would have been about... the bonus content seems to be getting be getting very close to the end of the war. I bet it would have focused on the Outer Rim sieges and possibly Order 66. I think all Seasons from this one on would be building to the end of the war and then ending the show where the battle of Coruscant begins. I don't want to see Order 66 in the Clone Wars at all. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 11:00:09 GMT -5
The animation is indeed very great! I want to see what the S8 finale animation would have looked like so badly now. And Clovis was a very well developed for a character that only had 5 episodes. I wonder what the last 2,5 seasons would have been about... the bonus content seems to be getting be getting very close to the end of the war. I bet it would have focused on the Outer Rim sieges and possibly Order 66. I think all Seasons from this one on would be building to the end of the war and then ending the show where the battle of Coruscant begins. I don't want to see Order 66 in the Clone Wars at all. I think the final arc should have focused on what the main character that didn't appear in RotS did during Order 66. And I think they were going to show Order 66 in TCW. They seemed to hint at it during the Order 66 arc. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 11:10:09 GMT -5
I think all Seasons from this one on would be building to the end of the war and then ending the show where the battle of Coruscant begins. I don't want to see Order 66 in the Clone Wars at all. I think the final arc should have focused on what the main character that didn't appear in RotS did during Order 66. And I think they were going to show Order 66 in TCW. They seemed to hint at it during the Order 66 arc. Well, i still don't think that's a good idea. We've seen Order 66 in Ep III already. If they continued with this the first half of Ep III would have been mostly unnecessary. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 17:13:41 GMT -5
It was also cool to finally see Thorn in action, although it was short. It was still noteworthy. I also loved the detail of Dooku casually walking past the dead clone bodies and kicking one of their liveless heads aside a little bit. Dooku was on his best this arc, and he didn't even have to pull out a lightsaber for it  |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 17:17:53 GMT -5
It was also cool to finally see Thorn in action, although it was short. It was still noteworthy. I also loved the detail of Dooku casually walking past the dead clone bodies and kicking one of their liveless heads aside a little bit. Dooku was on his best this arc, and he didn't even have to pull out a lightsaber for it The seen with Dooku walking out the banking clan building was the best animated scene in my opinion. It all looked very good, the music was also great. And yes, this was one of Dooku's best arc. It fits in his character, he's more of a politician than a warrior. He did still use the Force to kill the separatist guy though. It was interesting to see that Padme cared so much about his death and how he tried to save Padme. This arc showed once again that there are heroes on both sides. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 23, 2014 17:56:31 GMT -5
It was also cool to finally see Thorn in action, although it was short. It was still noteworthy. I also loved the detail of Dooku casually walking past the dead clone bodies and kicking one of their liveless heads aside a little bit. Dooku was on his best this arc, and he didn't even have to pull out a lightsaber for it The seen with Dooku walking out the banking clan building was the best animated scene in my opinion. It all looked very good, the music was also great. And yes, this was one of Dooku's best arc. It fits in his character, he's more of a politician than a warrior. He did still use the Force to kill the separatist guy though. It was interesting to see that Padme cared so much about his death and how he tried to save Padme. This arc showed once again that there are heroes on both sides. I love that even though it is not as thought provoking as the Order 66 arc it still manages to be fantastic in its own right and produce enough praise and discussion I never expected i would actaully care for Clovis's death, but i did! I actaully kinda miss him already. He only had 4 episodes and i feel like this. That's strong TV and writing. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:12:43 GMT -5
Watching the new episodes right now
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 2, 2014 6:13:56 GMT -5
Watching the new episodes right now Let me know when you get to the awesome part. Oh wait you're already there when you saw the opening logo |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 2, 2014 6:16:28 GMT -5
Watching the new episodes right now I forgot about the new episodes I'm going to watch them, but I'm not sure if I will watch it entirely... I want to be able to understand every bit of it and this episode sounds like it could be complicated... but then again, so was the Clovis arc. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:16:34 GMT -5
Watching the new episodes right now Let me know when you get to the awesome part. Oh wait you're already there when you saw the opening logo Jar Jar just got kissed by a queen. Not sure if that is awesome but it is defenitely unexpected. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 2, 2014 6:19:35 GMT -5
Let me know when you get to the awesome part. Oh wait you're already there when you saw the opening logo Jar Jar just got kissed by a queen. Not sure if that is awesome but it is defenitely unexpected. Well that's a moment for the history books  |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:31:11 GMT -5
The first episdoe just ended, damn that one had fantastic animation!
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:44:12 GMT -5
German Talzin is pretty good
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:50:46 GMT -5
The duel between Windu and Talzin was pretty short, but cool enough to set the stage for episode that will never be released now  Talzin's plan is still not explained, she dissappeared again like last time, but in anger now. Now it is time for the YODA ARC!! It follows immediately after. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:51:31 GMT -5
The Yoda Arc immediately starts with the Plo Koon finding Sifio-Dyas's lightsaber scene released some months ago.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 6:57:51 GMT -5
Woohoo finally a Valorrum character model |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 7:42:50 GMT -5
Only two more episodes and it is all over :'( :'( The arc with Jar Jar and Mace had beautiful animation and was quite more action packed then i anticipated. Once again, i still like Jar Jar and his pairing with Mace was funny and something i never thouhght i'd ever see. Jar Jar even had a girlfriend! A queen nonetheless! I loved that! That was so awesome and unexpected. What stood out the most in this arc though was the animation. I had some of the best the show had ever produced, and then some. The inclusion of Talzin was awesome and i was so happy to see her again. Too bad this only seemed like a set up for when her ultimate plan is finally revealed (something we'll never see) Her role was short though. "The Lost One" started off the Yoda arc in a big way with the Jedi going on an incredible search for Sifo-Dyas. This episode featured Valorrum and the Pykes once again. Together with a guy that has gone just as insane as Maul did 2 seasons ago, only less aggressive and more crazy. Eventaully everything led to one intense lightsaber duel between Dooku, Anakin and Obi-wan. This duel was epic in every sense of the word. The Jedi now know Dooku is Tyrannus. "Voices" was amazing as well. No action happened here but it was cool to see so many Jedi's together and so many Jedi tricks and other Jedi legacies. But then comes the final part of the episode wich featued Yoda visiting Dagobah. And man, was this an an intense, impressive and mostly, above all, an important sequence! Yoda actaully saw Order 66 happen infront of him and Sidious killing the 4 Jedi plus Mace. In the end of his vision he was greeted by a vision of Sidous, repeating his own name several times . I can't wait for the original dub because i want to hear Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon again! He had a much bigger part here then in Mortis (wich was finally mentioned again ) |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 2, 2014 8:14:19 GMT -5
I decided to watch the first two episode of the Yoda arc anyway and I have to say... it was amazing But first, the Jar Jar/Windu arc. It had much more action then I would have thought... and it was pretty good. Too bad it had sort of an open ending. We still don't know why Mother Talzin helped Maul, Savage and Ventress. And now we don't even know what happened to her. At the end she seemed to be in pain and she slowly vanished. We will never know whether she's dead or not... though I assume she's alive. The first episode of the Yoda arc was very good. The Jedi find out that Dooku is behind the creation of the clone army. And there's a pretty cool duel between Dooku and Anakin and Obi-wan, although it's a pretty short duel. I really like how Sidious force choked Dooku. And the music in these episodes is so great and dark. These bonus content don't feel like TCW anymore, they're darker and better... you can feel it's getting closer to RotS. The second episode of the Yoda arc wasn't too interesting at first. But the end made up for that! It is indeed Mortis 2.0! Yoda does see the future and he does see Sidious (although it's unclear if he knows it's Palpatine). I think this arc does make a good conclusion for the series... although there's still so much more to tell. |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 2, 2014 8:46:53 GMT -5
In Yoda's vision Shaak-ti gets stabbed in the back with a blue lightsaber. This probably means her death at the hands of Grievous in the RotS deleted scene is canon now. Which would mean TFU is officially non-canon now
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 2, 2014 13:38:19 GMT -5
In Yoda's vision Shaak-ti gets stabbed in the back with a blue lightsaber. This probably means her death at the hands of Grievous in the RotS deleted scene is canon now. Which would mean TFU is officially non-canon now And the deleted scene is canon now That TFU is not canon now doesn't really bother me. I always thought of that as EU anyway. Awesome game though |
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Post by Pinda on Mar 2, 2014 19:00:12 GMT -5
It makes sense for Yoda to remember part of his vision. In episode 3 he knew Palpatine's Sith name was Sidious without anyone telling him. I guess that's because he saw Sidious in his vision (but somehow didn't recognize him as Palpatine).
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Mar 3, 2014 3:58:10 GMT -5
It makes sense for Yoda to remember part of his vision. In episode 3 he knew Palpatine's Sith name was Sidious without anyone telling him. I guess that's because he saw Sidious in his vision (but somehow didn't recognize him as Palpatine). Then again Dooku told Obi-Wan of Sidious, so you could say Yoda knows from that fact |
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It's awesome. Pretty much all of the bonus content seems to focus on Palpatine's plans. I love it 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself?