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Post by Potato on Feb 15, 2014 19:19:03 GMT -5
This topic is for SPOILERS of the bonus content. You've come here at your own risk.
Again, all SPOILERS go here, and the Bonus Content should only be discussed here.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 15, 2014 19:41:22 GMT -5
I'm watching the first episode in German right now. The animation is even better than it was in S5  The German voice acting is bad though, especially Anakin's voice. {Actual Spoiler}Tup's madness is fun to watch.
Trench's sudden return isn't explained at all.
Sidious wants to kill all clones from the same Batch as Tup I think. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 15, 2014 19:54:00 GMT -5
They actually released the first 4 episodes already. Not sure if I want to watch them all in German, I see to miss some bits... and it's just not the same. This episode has a very different feel to it than S1-5. It's darker and you can really feel the end of the war is getting closer. {More real spoilers}There's a scene with floating clone bodies that might be considered very dark for a kid's show.
Trench has very little screentime or actual involvement in the episode.
Anakin has a new space suit. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 8:06:51 GMT -5
It seems like they think we don't know who Darth Tyranus is. He's cloaked all the time and you can't see his face and in the end they "shockingly" reveal it's Dooku... Also, Sidious has an ever creepier laugh in German. {Spoilers}Lama Su and the Kaminoans are villains and fully aware of Palpatine's plans.
Palpatine uses the Force in presence of Shaak-ti
There's very creepy and epic music at the end when Palpatine tells the Jedi the war is coming to an end. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:03:47 GMT -5
Just watched all four in a row. Even though it was in german i must say it was outstanding!
R.I.P Tup and Fives. I will miss them. Also, the german voicing acting was suprisingly good and i loved how the Kaminoans are secretly in contact with Dooku as well and aren't as good as we once thought. I also loved the Kamino droid that helped Fives during his quest.
The final episode was great and Fives's death scene was very well done and emotional. A dark ending for a perfect Trooper.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:06:09 GMT -5
It seems like they think we don't know who Darth Tyranus is. He's cloaked all the time and you can't see his face and in the end they "shockingly" reveal it's Dooku... Also, Sidious has an ever creepier laugh in German. {Spoilers}Lama Su and the Kaminoans are villains and fully aware of Palpatine's plans.
Palpatine uses the Force in presence of Shaak-ti
There's very creepy and epic music at the end when Palpatine tells the Jedi the war is coming to an end. You got that wrong. His face was cloaked for the Kaminoans, not for us. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 10:10:12 GMT -5
It seems like they think we don't know who Darth Tyranus is. He's cloaked all the time and you can't see his face and in the end they "shockingly" reveal it's Dooku... Also, Sidious has an ever creepier laugh in German. {Spoilers}Lama Su and the Kaminoans are villains and fully aware of Palpatine's plans.
Palpatine uses the Force in presence of Shaak-ti
There's very creepy and epic music at the end when Palpatine tells the Jedi the war is coming to an end. You got that wrong. His face was cloaked for the Kaminoans, not for us. Well, maybe you watched it in better quality. I think it was pretty much cloaked. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:11:38 GMT -5
You got that wrong. His face was cloaked for the Kaminoans, not for us. Well, maybe you watched it in better quality. I think it was pretty much cloaked. His face was cloaked yes, but that's because the Kaminoans don't know he's Dooku. Also, wasn't the animation just fantastic in these episodes!  |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 10:12:43 GMT -5
Well, maybe you watched it in better quality. I think it was pretty much cloaked. His face was cloaked yes, but that's because the Kaminoans don't know he's Dooku. Also, wasn't the animation just fantastic in these episodes! Did you watch all of them yet? Yes the animation was awesome. Especially on Kamino. I just wish we could have seen the S8 animation... it would probably have been even better  |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 10:16:50 GMT -5
Also, the Kaminoans do seem to know that Palpatine is a bad guy...
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:17:44 GMT -5
His face was cloaked yes, but that's because the Kaminoans don't know he's Dooku. Also, wasn't the animation just fantastic in these episodes! Did you watch all of them yet? Yes the animation was awesome. Especially on Kamino. I just wish we could have seen the S8 animation... it would probably have been even better Yes i watched all of them in a row because they were in the same video file. Even though it was German i understood most of it and i thought it was outstanding. I'm going to miss Fives but once i heard the story for this arc i knew he wasn't going to make it. Throughout the story i was even starting to think they'd kill off Shaak Ti as well but that didn't happen. Also, R.I.P Tup, never thought he'd die but it was the only way just like Fives. If this were a real Season of 22 episodes this would have been a perfect starting Arc. Well before you jump to S8 i'm wondering what S7 would look like first  |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:18:55 GMT -5
Also, the Kaminoans do seem to know that Palpatine is a bad guy... They seem to work for him. I loved that, i always thought the Kaminoans were the good guys who were helping the Jedi without knowing Order 66 was implanted. But this Arc made me open my eyes on them so much, i loved it! |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:34:48 GMT -5
One complaint though. Trench's return isn't explained at all and he's only in the first episode. Atleast he causes one of the darkest parts of that episode when the transport with Tup on board is attacked and the dead clones float around.
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Post by Captain Rex 75-67 on Feb 16, 2014 10:40:23 GMT -5
Also, the Kaminoans do seem to know that Palpatine is a bad guy... Really? Wow not even the Doctor can fix that paradox. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:42:37 GMT -5
My rating for each episode (For the German version, these might change after seeing the original version)
Unknown - 8.0
Conspiracy - 8.5
Fugitive - 9.0
Orders - 10.0
Funny how they kept rising per episode.
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Post by Captain Rex 75-67 on Feb 16, 2014 10:44:19 GMT -5
Wait!!! Now order 66 was put in their minds? WHAT A LOAD OF BS!!!!! CLONES WHERE HIGHLY TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS, NOT PROGRAMMED!!! Why must there be so many paradoxes in this arc??? *cries
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:44:26 GMT -5
Also, the Kaminoans do seem to know that Palpatine is a bad guy... Really? Wow not even the Doctor can fix that paradox. Actaully it is different. They don't see Palpatine as a bad-guy. They still see him as The Chancellor. But they seem to be working with him on something secret (Order 66) that the Jedi and the Galaxy can not know about. They are manipulated by Palpatine just as everyon else is. They don't know he's Sidious though (atleast i didn't get that from the German version) |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 10:46:19 GMT -5
Wait!!! Now order 66 was put in their minds? WHAT A LOAD OF BS!!!!! CLONES WHERE HIGHLY TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS, NOT PROGRAMMED!!! Why must there be so many paradoxes in this arc??? *cries They are programmed to follow orders, but because of the human DNA of Jango Fett in there they are also independant thinkers. Because they are indepenant thinkers they would never agree to follow Order 66 unless it was planted inside their brains. I honestly feel very sad and sympathetic for them now. Especially Fives. |
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Post by Captain Rex 75-67 on Feb 16, 2014 10:59:59 GMT -5
Wait!!! Now order 66 was put in their minds? WHAT A LOAD OF BS!!!!! CLONES WHERE HIGHLY TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS, NOT PROGRAMMED!!! Why must there be so many paradoxes in this arc??? *cries They are programmed to follow orders, but because of the human DNA of Jango Fett in there they are also independant thinkers. Because they are indepenant thinkers they would never agree to follow Order 66 unless it was planted inside their brains. I honestly feel very sad and sympathetic for them now. Especially Fives. "We're not droids, we're not PROGRAMMED" Captain Rex |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 11:02:59 GMT -5
They are programmed to follow orders, but because of the human DNA of Jango Fett in there they are also independant thinkers. Because they are indepenant thinkers they would never agree to follow Order 66 unless it was planted inside their brains. I honestly feel very sad and sympathetic for them now. Especially Fives. "We're not droids, we're not PROGRAMMED" Captain RexRex is unaware of his programming. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 11:04:33 GMT -5
Did you watch all of them yet? Yes the animation was awesome. Especially on Kamino. I just wish we could have seen the S8 animation... it would probably have been even better Yes i watched all of them in a row because they were in the same video file. Even though it was German i understood most of it and i thought it was outstanding. I'm going to miss Fives but once i heard the story for this arc i knew he wasn't going to make it. Throughout the story i was even starting to think they'd kill off Shaak Ti as well but that didn't happen. Also, R.I.P Tup, never thought he'd die but it was the only way just like Fives. If this were a real Season of 22 episodes this would have been a perfect starting Arc. Well before you jump to S8 i'm wondering what S7 would look like first Yes, I almost thought Palpatine was going to kill Shaak-ti when he asked her if she had told anyone else about he discoveries yet. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 11:04:46 GMT -5
And Fives death was obvious, yes.
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 11:18:41 GMT -5
Wait!!! Now order 66 was put in their minds? WHAT A LOAD OF BS!!!!! CLONES WHERE HIGHLY TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS, NOT PROGRAMMED!!! Why must there be so many paradoxes in this arc??? *cries So did you watch the arc in German too? It makes sense that they were programmed to execute order 66. Some of these clones were very close to their generals if they were not at all programmed some would have ignored the order, and Palpatine knew this so he programmed them. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 11:23:53 GMT -5
Really? Wow not even the Doctor can fix that paradox. Actaully it is different. They don't see Palpatine as a bad-guy. They still see him as The Chancellor. But they seem to be working with him on something secret (Order 66) that the Jedi and the Galaxy can not know about. They are manipulated by Palpatine just as everyon else is. They don't know he's Sidious though (atleast i didn't get that from the German version) They probably didn't know anything about Sidious, while we can't be sure. |
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Post by Captain Rex 75-67 on Feb 16, 2014 11:43:03 GMT -5
Wait!!! Now order 66 was put in their minds? WHAT A LOAD OF BS!!!!! CLONES WHERE HIGHLY TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS, NOT PROGRAMMED!!! Why must there be so many paradoxes in this arc??? *cries So did you watch the arc in German too? It makes sense that they were programmed to execute order 66. Some of these clones were very close to their generals if they were not at all programmed some would have ignored the order, and Palpatine knew this so he programmed them. If they were "programmed" so why didn't delta squad execute the order?  |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Feb 16, 2014 11:55:42 GMT -5
So did you watch the arc in German too? It makes sense that they were programmed to execute order 66. Some of these clones were very close to their generals if they were not at all programmed some would have ignored the order, and Palpatine knew this so he programmed them. If they were "programmed" so why didn't delta squad execute the order? Well, like robot programming on a massive scale, there's always going to be a 'glitch' in some of them. |
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Post by Captain Rex 75-67 on Feb 16, 2014 11:59:49 GMT -5
If they were "programmed" so why didn't delta squad execute the order? Well, like robot programming on a massive scale, there's always going to be a 'glitch' in some of them. Would like me to prove you wrong? |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 12:07:58 GMT -5
Well, like robot programming on a massive scale, there's always going to be a 'glitch' in some of them. Would like me to prove you wrong? He's right. Tup was a glitch. And what happened to Delta Squad during Order 66 is unknown in true canon. |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 16, 2014 12:10:56 GMT -5
This arc has two major fails in my opinion.
1. Trench only appeared in the first episode and hardly did anything. His return wasn't explained and his fate wasn't shown. He just suddenly was there. Anakin should have been surprised by his return, that would have made it more epic.
2. Tup went missing. Shaak-ti briefly mentions during the second episode that Tup went missing several hours before he killed the Jedi. Where did he go? And why wasn't this brought up before? It's like they made this up along to way to fix some plotholes.
These two points make me feel like I missed a prequel to this arc.
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Feb 16, 2014 12:47:57 GMT -5
This arc has two major fails in my opinion. 1. Trench only appeared in the first episode and hardly did anything. His return wasn't explained and his fate wasn't shown. He just suddenly was there. Anakin should have been surprised by his return, that would have made it more epic. 2. Tup went missing. Shaak-ti briefly mentions during the second episode that Tup went missing several hours before he killed the Jedi. Where did he go? And why wasn't this brought up before? It's like they made this up along to way to fix some plotholes. These two points make me feel like I missed a prequel to this arc. I didn't catch that second one. |
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The German voice acting is bad though, especially Anakin's voice. 
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself? 