Sidious vs. Yoda- Who's More Powerful?

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Oh my god Potato that was a long post....... please, no one quote that! Anyway, I've always been for of a Sith fan, and this is no exception. Sidious FTW!!!!!!!!!!11

I'm not too sure, but probably Yoda. I have to go to bed now though, so I'll share why I think so tomorrow. Bye.

No really, Potato, I CAN'T quote you! The dates on the recent posts are screwed up! I can't post picture or access the Emotes! What's wrong? Help me!!!!!!!!!11 Iz all glitching and going wrong!!!!11 :(

Hmm, I don't know. Dooku sort of fled during Attack of the Clones and seemed Yoda to be a bit better than Dooku overall. Also, Anakin could beat Dooku, but he was trying to kill him (or at least, he was attacking him more violently than Yoda). If Yoda attacked Dooku as violently as Anakin did in Revenge of the Sith I think Yoda would definitely win.


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Have you tried quitting the internet and starting it back up? Or just restarting your computer? This has never happened to me but the forum does glitch occasionally. Tell me what happens after you try that.

This happened to me a few days ago. It'll pass after a day or so.

What else would they rely on?

I'm going to analyze a lot of this If you don't mind so this may be a long read but let's start of with ROTS fight I guess people could have seen this as a draw but Sidious would have outlasted Yoda in that fight you could tell near the end Yoda was tiring and Sidious was mostly toying with him for the most part when he was throwing the seats in the senate. Though they both mastered numerous forms Yoda mostly used Ataru you could tell by his flips and acrobatics. Sidious used Juyo for the most part which is the deadliest form mostly used by Sith, Darth Maul also used Juyo in TPM when he beat both Qui-Gon and for the most part beat Obi Wan in fair combat. They are pretty equal in Lightsaber combat but Yoda is better from experience and Sidious was a Sorccer not a warrior he focused on the force and learning the aspects of the dark side.

Now looking at there force abilitys, Sidious was considered the master of Dark force abilitys his lighting was unmatched and he was able to transfer his essence from different body's this is also how he survived the battle on endor if you know read anything after episode 6. Both Yoda and Sidious mastered Battle Meditation the ability to manipulate and control a battle to ones favor of the side using it this is also demonstrated at the battle of Endor when Sidious died his battle meditation was also broken allowing the rebels to win against all the enemy forces with the little ships they had. They both had the best foresight Sidious at times was able to see years into the future. Sidious was still unmatched compared to any other Sith Lords in the force. Sidious also possessed some knowledge in the creating life but never figured the entire secret from his master. In the end I would give strength in the force to Sidious.

Now who is smarter overall well it's a tough one though Yoda has 100s of years on Sidious from being alive and gaining experience and knowledge but I still believe Sidious will outsmart Yoda any day. Sidious was able to carefully plan his entire rise of power decades before without error he was able to cloud everyone's mind and he was one of the only sith to successfully purge the Jedi the other times the Jedi have been defeated so bad was the back in the days of the old republic. Though Yoda was wise, Sidious was ore manipulative and overall more smart. And let alone the fact that in every prequel Yoda always has a look of utter confusion on his face.


In the end the end I believe at Sidious's Prime when he took over in ROTS and when Yoda fought him I believe Sidious was much more powerful at that time. The only people I could actually see beating him in a fair fight would be Luke Skywalker who is wildly considered the greatest force user of all time at the time of the new republic. The other person being the Chosen one Anakin that's if he didnt sustain his injuries at mustafar.

So in summary:
Yoda: Lightsaber (Though Sidious probably could outlast him in a long period of time)
Force: Sidious
Intelligence: Sidious
Overall: Sidious

I could analyze them for longer but I think this is enough without out going into EU too much.

Thank you for taking the time to write all that!
Well, about your posts on intelligence, Sidious is definitely more manipulative, as all sith are, but I'm not sure if that would come in handy during an actual duel. He should be more focused on coming up with ways to outsmart Yoda battle-wise. Although, battle-wise Sidious was pretty smart during the duel for getting the higher ground against Yoda and throwing the senate pods at him. But after Yoda caught his breath he was easily able to throw one back at Sidious. Not only that, but at that point Sidious no longer had his lightsaber as I already mentioned so Sidious might have went up there only as a defense from Yoda because he couldn't duel him anymore.
Also, at the beginning of the duel, Sidious did try to flee from Yoda. So he did fear him.

He was fleeing alright. "If so powerful you are, why leave?" At least Yoda was able to catch one of the pods Sidious threw at him. Sidious had to actually jump out of the way and barely got out of the way Yoda threw at him. One of the reasons Yoda had a hard time catching it anyway was because of how fast it was going. As shown, Sidious didn't even try to catch the one Yoda threw because it was going way too fast for him. Sidious may have sent Yoda flying back, but Yoda also sent Sidious flying back while repulsing it. Like I said, if Sidious and Yoda were standing on opposite sides of the pod they were on Yoda would have got onto the hand rail and Sidious would have fallen. While Sidious is cunning and manipulative it doesn't mean he's the best with actual battle tactics, which is a completely different type of intelligence.

Well I have a theory of why Sidious was fleeing I think he wanted to get Yoda out in public so he couldn't escape if he was out in public that would also prove the point of the Jedi trying to kill Plapatine and trying to take over the republic this would show why the empire is in power. Mace and the other Jedi should have confronted Palpatine in public rather than in his private office where no one can see what really happened. Now Sidious also defeated 3 of the Jedi council with ease the reason Mace was such a threat was because he used the form he created called Vaapaad the form relys on the dark side to make quick strikes at your enemy Sidious didnt actually know now to counter this but it should be noted at Mace was also the best blades men in the order at the time. Even though it looked like Mace beat him Sidious was still holding back he wanted Anakin to give in.

But in the Senate battle Yoda had to constantly dodge all the pods he threw at him excluding the last one. Why didnt he just throw them all back or at least push them out of his way? In a 1V1 I think there battle tactics could be considered equal but the thing I noticed about Sidious is he seems to plan his moves ahead of time. Now if this was actual leadership on the battlefield commanding a army that's a different story.

When Yoda blocks off Sidious from leaving you can tell by Sidious' face that he's worried for his life. He knows Yoda has a chance of beating him and is worried for his life and his new rule. Sidious may have been able to defeat the other members of the council easily, but that's because he caught them off guard (he still would have won though, it just would have take a little longer). Still, if Yoda was pitted against those council members he too would have won. And at least Yoda was able to throw one of them back at Sidious. Sidious wasn't able to do anything when the one came back at him. Instead of pushing it back at Yoda, he just made a jump for it to get away.

Ah, yes, speaking of typos, thank you for correcting the title, Spider. I never type right when I'm in a hurry...