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Post by Kenbo on Sept 29, 2014 20:09:38 GMT -5
Actually Echo was just plain retarded I want to know the logic in standing in front of your escape ship... He pretty much screwed them Maybe he just gave up. And thought it would be better to die than to be imprisoned for eternity. There is a point in doing that.... not just to get to a ship. I think he wanted to die. Well if he wanted to die (which he probably didn't tbh..) he didn't have to screw everyone else first... |
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Post by Star on Sept 29, 2014 21:05:05 GMT -5
Uhmmm... I don't think Ahsoka would ever beat Vader, especially during the time between ROTS and ANH. That was when Vader would still have more power in his body that's half machine compared to ROTJ. bobafett590, surely you agree? |
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Post by Star on Sept 29, 2014 21:08:44 GMT -5
And Luke beat Vader for 3 reasons.
1. He's his son so he was able to become just as powerful, if not more than, Vader.
2. Story - kinda a weaker excuse but it's used to explain why Grievous lost so much in TCW
3. Vader had been in his suit for over 20 some years by that time. Of course after so much time he'd become weaker. But for those first 10 or so, I think he'd still remain pretty powerful. At least powerful enough that during ANH he was still considered the "pet" of Sidious, Tarkin, and the Empire to do their bidding and hunt down rebels/Jedi, albeit gradually becoming more of a mental threat rather than physical one.
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Post by Star on Sept 29, 2014 21:09:14 GMT -5
We should make this a Geonosis arena battle discussion  |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 29, 2014 21:13:47 GMT -5
And Luke beat Vader for 3 reasons. 1. He's his son so he was able to become just as powerful, if not more than, Vader. 2. Story - kinda a weaker excuse but it's used to explain why Grievous lost so much in TCW 3. Vader had been in his suit for over 20 some years by that time. Of course after so much time he'd become weaker. But for those first 10 or so, I think he'd still remain pretty powerful. At least powerful enough that during ANH he was still considered the "pet" of Sidious, Tarkin, and the Empire to do their bidding and hunt down rebels/Jedi, albeit gradually becoming more of a mental threat rather than physical one. Well Grievous sucks anyway but I agree with everything else you said. |
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Post by Star on Sept 29, 2014 21:16:42 GMT -5
And Luke beat Vader for 3 reasons. 1. He's his son so he was able to become just as powerful, if not more than, Vader. 2. Story - kinda a weaker excuse but it's used to explain why Grievous lost so much in TCW 3. Vader had been in his suit for over 20 some years by that time. Of course after so much time he'd become weaker. But for those first 10 or so, I think he'd still remain pretty powerful. At least powerful enough that during ANH he was still considered the "pet" of Sidious, Tarkin, and the Empire to do their bidding and hunt down rebels/Jedi, albeit gradually becoming more of a mental threat rather than physical one. Well Grievous sucks anyway but I agree with everything else you said. I know he's not amazing, but they always referred to how he killed many Jedi and even had trophies to prove it. I would've liked to have seen some of that shown in TCW. But storylines were partly an issue that caused that to not happen I think. But I also was hopeful that seasons 7-8 of TCW would've had Grievous in them and actually killing a few Jedi (at least 3) to make him seem like the feared cyborg they made him out to be in ROTS (even though he wasn't much of a threat in the movie sadly). |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 30, 2014 1:25:09 GMT -5
And Luke beat Vader for 3 reasons. 1. He's his son so he was able to become just as powerful, if not more than, Vader. 2. Story - kinda a weaker excuse but it's used to explain why Grievous lost so much in TCW 3. Vader had been in his suit for over 20 some years by that time. Of course after so much time he'd become weaker. But for those first 10 or so, I think he'd still remain pretty powerful. At least powerful enough that during ANH he was still considered the "pet" of Sidious, Tarkin, and the Empire to do their bidding and hunt down rebels/Jedi, albeit gradually becoming more of a mental threat rather than physical one. Well Grievous sucks anyway but I agree with everything else you said. No in the old Clone Wars show he isn't |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 30, 2014 1:27:46 GMT -5
Well Grievous sucks anyway but I agree with everything else you said. I know he's not amazing, but they always referred to how he killed many Jedi and even had trophies to prove it. I would've liked to have seen some of that shown in TCW. But storylines were partly an issue that caused that to not happen I think. But I also was hopeful that seasons 7-8 of TCW would've had Grievous in them and actually killing a few Jedi (at least 3) to make him seem like the feared cyborg they made him out to be in ROTS (even though he wasn't much of a threat in the movie sadly). If I thought of a gripe I had about TCW, it would be Grievous. I mean, when his trophy room revealed huge amounts of lightsabers and such in Lair of Grievous, you struggle to believe it, because he spent almost 50% of the time escaping on the show. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 30, 2014 6:43:56 GMT -5
Well Grievous sucks anyway but I agree with everything else you said. No in the old Clone Wars show he isn't Yeah but Mace Windu could apparently kill 2000 SBD's in two seconds. And is that series even canon anymore? |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 30, 2014 11:05:09 GMT -5
No in the old Clone Wars show he isn't Yeah but Mace Windu could apparently kill 2000 SBD's in two seconds. And is that series even canon anymore? Probably not But considering Mace was the one who defeated Palpatine, it was, more or less, the best way to put his power above Grievous' who at that time was killing Jedi like it was nobody's business. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 30, 2014 12:33:01 GMT -5
If Mace Windu could actually do that, then the Bartle of Geonosis would've been over in thirty seconds.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 30, 2014 13:31:34 GMT -5
If Mace Windu could actually do that, then the Bartle of Geonosis would've been over in thirty seconds. Which is why the old Clone Wars show was a bit ridiculous |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 18:51:38 GMT -5
I get that Disney is spending loads of money on Rebels for advertising, specifically Youtube. They probably spent at least a couple hundred thousand to advertise and make loads of previews and clips and trailers but they are not generating a lot of views I hate to say. The Official trailer only got 2 million roughly in a few months and they are only generated a couple thousand per "preview" and "trailers" but how come Nickelodeon who spent little to nothing on advertising for 1 LOK trailer has gotten all ready over 4 million views in a few days. I'm not saying Nickelodeon is better at marketing but come on. They should stop wasting money on advertisement that nobody looks at and spend it in the ACTUAL show.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 30, 2014 20:03:46 GMT -5
I get that Disney is spending loads of money on Rebels for advertising, specifically Youtube. They probably spent at least a couple hundred thousand to advertise and make loads of previews and clips and trailers but they are not generating a lot of views I hate to say. The Official trailer only got 2 million roughly in a few months and they are only generated a couple thousand per "preview" and "trailers" but how come Nickelodeon who spent little to nothing on advertising for 1 LOK trailer has gotten all ready over 4 million views in a few days. I'm not saying Nickelodeon is better at marketing but come on. They should stop wasting money on advertisement that nobody looks at and spend it in the ACTUAL show. LOK didn't just come out unlike Rebels so people already know about it |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 20:04:36 GMT -5
I get that Disney is spending loads of money on Rebels for advertising, specifically Youtube. They probably spent at least a couple hundred thousand to advertise and make loads of previews and clips and trailers but they are not generating a lot of views I hate to say. The Official trailer only got 2 million roughly in a few months and they are only generated a couple thousand per "preview" and "trailers" but how come Nickelodeon who spent little to nothing on advertising for 1 LOK trailer has gotten all ready over 4 million views in a few days. I'm not saying Nickelodeon is better at marketing but come on. They should stop wasting money on advertisement that nobody looks at and spend it in the ACTUAL show. LOK didn't just come out unlike Rebels so people already know about it What do you mean? |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 30, 2014 20:07:32 GMT -5
LOK didn't just come out unlike Rebels so people already know about it What do you mean? I don't really follow LOK much but it's been around for a while right? Maybe it's first trailers had that many views too. I may be wrong but there's also the fact that it's related to the other Avatar stuff which other people watched so basically what I'm trying to say is LOK trailers would bring in more people since it's already established while Rebels is just getting started so it wouldn't |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 20:09:46 GMT -5
I don't really follow LOK much but it's been around for a while right? Maybe it's first trailers had that many views too. I may be wrong but there's also the fact that it's related to the other Avatar stuff which other people watched so basically what I'm trying to say is LOK trailers would bring in more people since it's already established while Rebels is just getting started so it wouldn't But Rebels is established since it replaced TCW, part of one of the biggest franchises, and is a Disney Production. The amount of advertisement money that is put into Rebels should have been put into making it a better quality show. It was a waste of advertisement since they have gotten very little views. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 30, 2014 20:13:36 GMT -5
I don't really follow LOK much but it's been around for a while right? Maybe it's first trailers had that many views too. I may be wrong but there's also the fact that it's related to the other Avatar stuff which other people watched so basically what I'm trying to say is LOK trailers would bring in more people since it's already established while Rebels is just getting started so it wouldn't But Rebels is established since it replaced TCW, part of one of the biggest franchises, and is a Disney Production. The amount of advertisement money that is put into Rebels should have been put into making it a better quality show. It was a waste of advertisement since they have gotten very little views. Well not really plus I don't think TCW got that many views as well.. Also advertisement is important and it actually is a pretty good quality show... I know you don't like it but the target audience probably does/will |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 20:23:09 GMT -5
But Rebels is established since it replaced TCW, part of one of the biggest franchises, and is a Disney Production. The amount of advertisement money that is put into Rebels should have been put into making it a better quality show. It was a waste of advertisement since they have gotten very little views. Well not really plus I don't think TCW got that many views as well.. Also advertisement is important and it actually is a pretty good quality show... I know you don't like it but the target audience probably does/will TCW did not have many views because Disney did not own SW. They did not spend thousands of dollars on advertisement and posting 5 teasers and previews in a week. I doubt that the target audience will enjoy it. Some but not all. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 30, 2014 20:26:57 GMT -5
Well not really plus I don't think TCW got that many views as well.. Also advertisement is important and it actually is a pretty good quality show... I know you don't like it but the target audience probably does/will TCW did not have many views because Disney did not own SW. They did not spend thousands of dollars on advertisement and posting 5 teasers and previews in a week. I doubt that the target audience will enjoy it. Some but not all. Why wouldn't the target audience like it... I like it and even older people like it so I think 5-10 year olds would have no problem enjoying it |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 20:31:01 GMT -5
TCW did not have many views because Disney did not own SW. They did not spend thousands of dollars on advertisement and posting 5 teasers and previews in a week. I doubt that the target audience will enjoy it. Some but not all. Why wouldn't the target audience like it... I like it and even older people like it so I think 5-10 year olds would have no problem enjoying it If you are older than the target age then no you won't. It's not a quality show. It's forgettable. I have no problem with watching shows that are aimed at kids (ATLA for example) But that's a quality show. Unlike Rebels. I don't really care if you like it or not that's not my problem. My only problem is how much a dislike the show. I do not really care if I offend those who like it. I'm just making my opinions on a despicable excuse for a show. |
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Post by Star on Sept 30, 2014 20:56:27 GMT -5
Would you guys still hate Rebels if TCW was finished out first? I'm pretty sure half the reason you hate Rebels is because it replaced TCW which was unfinished.
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 30, 2014 21:10:26 GMT -5
Well not really plus I don't think TCW got that many views as well.. Also advertisement is important and it actually is a pretty good quality show... I know you don't like it but the target audience probably does/will TCW did not have many views because Disney did not own SW. They did not spend thousands of dollars on advertisement and posting 5 teasers and previews in a week. I doubt that the target audience will enjoy it. Some but not all. You just need lame jokes, dumb villains, and thrown-together fight scenes for the audience they want. Rebels will do fine on Disney XD... |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 30, 2014 21:11:27 GMT -5
Would you guys still hate Rebels if TCW was finished out first? I'm pretty sure half the reason you hate Rebels is because it replaced TCW which was unfinished. I'd be more open to it but TBH it still looks pretty bad and cheap. I wouldn't have high hopes but I'd probably give it a try. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 30, 2014 21:11:33 GMT -5
Would you guys still hate Rebels if TCW was finished out first? I'm pretty sure half the reason you hate Rebels is because it replaced TCW which was unfinished. Yes. It's a waste of money. Waste of entertainment. Terrible writing, terrible voice acting, terrible dialogue, worse story. It's just a money producer which I hate. That's the only reason why this show was made. To make money. |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 1, 2014 5:35:51 GMT -5
Why wouldn't the target audience like it... I like it and even older people like it so I think 5-10 year olds would have no problem enjoying it If you are older than the target age then no you won't. It's not a quality show. It's forgettable. I have no problem with watching shows that are aimed at kids (ATLA for example) But that's a quality show. Unlike Rebels. I don't really care if you like it or not that's not my problem. My only problem is how much a dislike the show. I do not really care if I offend those who like it. I'm just making my opinions on a despicable excuse for a show. Um... I don't think you can tell me what I like or don't like.... Lol.. But it is a quality show for what it is. You may be used to better stuff but that's because you watch the highest quality shows probably such as TCW and I guess LOK since you guys praise it so much. Rebels is not up there with those two but it's not exactly at the bottom either. And it seems you keep forgetting it is for kids. Kids. You're saying it's bad writing and whatever but it is good for kids. You wouldn't like it because it's not for you Would you guys still hate Rebels if TCW was finished out first? I'm pretty sure half the reason you hate Rebels is because it replaced TCW which was unfinished. It's easy to say yes but I'm pretty sure everyone who's hating on it right now would complain far less... I remember on SW.com when it was announced they would be making Rebels and new movies, everyone was hype and were excited for both things... I was actually one of the few people kind of sketchy about the new stuff because we didn't need 3 more movies since the story was over.. |
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Post by Kenbo on Oct 1, 2014 5:44:00 GMT -5
Would you guys still hate Rebels if TCW was finished out first? I'm pretty sure half the reason you hate Rebels is because it replaced TCW which was unfinished. Yes. It's a waste of money. Waste of entertainment. Terrible writing, terrible voice acting, terrible dialogue, worse story. It's just a money producer which I hate. That's the only reason why this show was made. To make money. You're only saying these things because you don't like it..... It's actually not a waste of money. Rebels will create new (younger) Star Wars fans which will then lead to more merchandise sales and more views for the movies. It's not really that bad writing and acting and whatnot but let's just say it is. It doesn't matter because the target audience will still watch it and like it. I don't like Disney. They're greedy and "bad" for several reasons but they know how to make money and who doesn't want money.. Oh yeah and I hope you realize almost everything is made to make money....... You shouldn't really complain about that |
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Post by Potato on Oct 1, 2014 21:30:11 GMT -5
Finally found it leaked online. It was actually pretty good.  Seriously, I can confidently say I'll be watching the rest of the season. Yes, several parts were cheesy or stupid or didn't work, but it was still good. It's not bad at all. People are calling it "childish" a lot, but I think those people just don't know how to sit back and enjoy something for everyone. The animation's actually not bad either. The wookiees didn't look very good (they were way too lean), but the action scenes were pretty good and the stormtrooper blaster bolts looked better than they did in the previews for some reason. Agent Kallus is awesome too, although I think the flaw with him is that he can't do anything too badass since there's a group of main characters that can't be killed off. |
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Post by Newan on Oct 1, 2014 23:41:56 GMT -5
Finally found it leaked online. It was actually pretty good. Seriously, I can confidently say I'll be watching the rest of the season. Yes, several parts were cheesy or stupid or didn't work, but it was still good. It's not bad at all. People are calling it "childish" a lot, but I think those people just don't know how to sit back and enjoy something for everyone. The animation's actually not bad either. The wookiees didn't look very good (they were way too lean), but the action scenes were pretty good and the stormtrooper blaster bolts looked better than they did in the previews for some reason. Agent Kallus is awesome too, although I think the flaw with him is that he can't do anything too badass since there's a group of main characters that can't be killed off. I always thought he would be one of the best characters he obviously has the most badass beard in the empire... Most of the haters are probably people that still can't get over tcw or people with the false sense that this is supposed to be a replacement or sequel which it is now there is not reason at all to compare it since it's completely different. I think the previews had a severe sound problem as well. |
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Post by Pinda on Oct 2, 2014 11:17:09 GMT -5
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Seriously, I can confidently say I'll be watching the rest of the season.
it’s been quite a while. I’ve been pretty good, how about yourself?
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