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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 17:59:30 GMT -5
I mean... gah. I dunno how to put this. It's not really terrible... but it's not good either. I just hate to watch something like this that is just basically A New Hope. I wanted them to improve and expand the OT. Make Stormtroopers good and deadly. Make the Empire dark not troopers who throw food and ask people for identity and be rude for no apparent reason. Give me a villain that makes me want to hate him. It's hard for me to hate villains but if you give me a reason to hate them (besides character development and animation) than that's good because villains are supposed to be hated. (Besides LOK because their villains have good intentions and are quality complex villains) And I should not hate and find myself clawing my eyes out over the protagonists, aka Ezra. The storyline is so bad, there's no motivation or drive that's keeping these protagonists from going, besides "helping people" from the "villains". I know it is just a kids show but they should be trying to impress fans that stuck with the series for awhile not some new kiddies who probably have no clue who Darth Vader is or who the fudge is Obi Wan, or have no clue what Clones and the Prequels were. I get the feeling Disney is never going to mention the prequels or clones again anyway. And I think villains are not supposed to be hated, at least they shouldn't just be hated. They should have a good side, that makes them more realistic, like the villains in Game of Thrones and Legend of Korra. If you see these scenes with Zaheer and P'li in Legend of Korra you don't think "I hate this guy, he's truly evil" which makes it realistic and more interesting to watch than when you have a villain that's just purely evil and kicks humans being to their death for fun (like Agent Kallus did). Well I Wouldn't say realistic. Look at leaders who are villains that are totally evil. (Hitler, older Kings back in the days). I just mean like with Joffrey he's a great villains because we hate him.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:00:29 GMT -5
Haha... But if those where the characters Id be watching for Vader only, That would actually be a lot better. Vader vs Ahsoka would be the most interesting fight I could imagine in the Star Wars universe at this point.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:01:32 GMT -5
Haha... But if those where the characters Id be watching for Vader only, That would actually be a lot better. Vader vs Ahsoka would be the most interesting fight I could imagine in the Star Wars universe at this point. That's a fight? More of a complete ass kicking.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:02:37 GMT -5
I get the feeling Disney is never going to mention the prequels or clones again anyway. And I think villains are not supposed to be hated, at least they shouldn't just be hated. They should have a good side, that makes them more realistic, like the villains in Game of Thrones and Legend of Korra. If you see these scenes with Zaheer and P'li in Legend of Korra you don't think "I hate this guy, he's truly evil" which makes it realistic and more interesting to watch than when you have a villain that's just purely evil and kicks humans being to their death for fun (like Agent Kallus did). Well I Wouldn't say realistic. Look at leaders who are villains that are totally evil. (Hitler, older Kings back in the days). I just mean like with Joffrey he's a great villains because we hate him. Hitler wasn't totally evil either, he's also portrayed as pure evil (much like villains in the Star Wars movies or Rebels) but he was also just human (I'm not saying he was a nice guy, but no one is pure evil). And Joffrey is totally annoying, I don't think he was a good villain at all, especially compared to Zaheer who actually has proper motivations and doesn't kill people just for fun or because he's mad.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:03:14 GMT -5
That would actually be a lot better. Vader vs Ahsoka would be the most interesting fight I could imagine in the Star Wars universe at this point. That's a fight? More of a complete ass kicking. Something tells me Vader wouldn't try to kill her that quickly. Also, Ahsoka could probably defeat him. If Luke could do it, so could she.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:04:20 GMT -5
That would actually be a lot better. Vader vs Ahsoka would be the most interesting fight I could imagine in the Star Wars universe at this point. That's a fight? More of a complete ass kicking. Darth Vader sucks. When have we seen any ass kicking from Vader? (Besides EU which made him badass but that's now non-canon fucking Disney) Darth Vader did absolutely nothing besides swing his lightsabers a few times and didn't seem to be any challenged. He killed like what? Two people? That soldier on Tantive, and Obi Wan which was the stupidest fight I have ever seen.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:07:38 GMT -5
That's a fight? More of a complete ass kicking. Darth Vader sucks. When have we seen any ass kicking from Vader? (Besides EU which made him badass but that's now non-canon Potato is Awesomeing Disney) Darth Vader did absolutely nothing besides swing his lightsabers a few times and didn't seem to be any challenged. He killed like what? Two people? That soldier on Tantive, and Obi Wan which was the stupidest fight I have ever seen. She's like a padawan...'all he would have to do is choke her she's a weak jedi.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:07:57 GMT -5
Same can be said about Boba Fett. Like Vader, they were only badass in the EU. Boba "died" in a shit way. He did absolutely nothing but stand their guarding a chunk of carbon.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:08:15 GMT -5
Darth Vader sucks. When have we seen any ass kicking from Vader? (Besides EU which made him badass but that's now non-canon Potato is Awesomeing Disney) Darth Vader did absolutely nothing besides swing his lightsabers a few times and didn't seem to be any challenged. He killed like what? Two people? That soldier on Tantive, and Obi Wan which was the stupidest fight I have ever seen. She's like a padawan...'all he would have to do is choke her she's a weak jedi. Ahsoka? Weak? Ahahah you gotta be kidding me.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:09:07 GMT -5
And DF bases like everything off the EU as well so Vader wins...
Also the Rebels movie comes on a channel called TFC... What...
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:10:17 GMT -5
Darth Vader sucks. When have we seen any ass kicking from Vader? (Besides EU which made him badass but that's now non-canon Potato is Awesomeing Disney) Darth Vader did absolutely nothing besides swing his lightsabers a few times and didn't seem to be any challenged. He killed like what? Two people? That soldier on Tantive, and Obi Wan which was the stupidest fight I have ever seen. She's like a padawan...'all he would have to do is choke her she's a weak jedi. She's no longer a Padawan, and Vader is a cyborg, he's no longer at his full strength.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:11:16 GMT -5
Same can be said about Boba Fett. Like Vader, they were only badass in the EU. Boba "died" in a Potato Rules way. He did absolutely nothing but stand their guarding a chunk of carbon. It's unrealistic to think Boba would have not gotten out he has more weapons then some space ships... Plus he's got armour. Way more realistic than Maul which is just plain stupid.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:11:34 GMT -5
And DF bases like everything off the EU as well so Vader wins... Also the Rebels movie comes on a channel called TFC... What... Dave Filoni isn't in charge of anything. Disney is and they made anything EU non-canon so that means the baddass Vader and Boba is no long badass but lazy and boring
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:12:19 GMT -5
She's like a padawan...'all he would have to do is choke her she's a weak jedi. She's no longer a Padawan, and Vader is a cyborg, he's no longer at his full strength. Vader is stronger... It's not like mechanical arms can make you weaker.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:12:47 GMT -5
Same can be said about Boba Fett. Like Vader, they were only badass in the EU. Boba "died" in a Potato Rules way. He did absolutely nothing but stand their guarding a chunk of carbon. It's unrealistic to think Boba would have not gotten out he has more weapons then some space ships... Plus he's got armour. Way more realistic than Maul which is just plain stupid. Boba was eaten by a creature. I think Maul can survive without legs.
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Post by Potato on Sept 29, 2014 18:13:08 GMT -5
Anyone have a good link to the first episode?
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:13:12 GMT -5
And DF bases like everything off the EU as well so Vader wins... Also the Rebels movie comes on a channel called TFC... What... Dave Filoni isn't in charge of anything. Disney is and they made anything EU non-canon so that means the baddass Vader and Boba is no long badass but lazy and boring That wouldn't have stoped Dave at all if he still was making episodes.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:14:58 GMT -5
Dave Filoni isn't in charge of anything. Disney is and they made anything EU non-canon so that means the baddass Vader and Boba is no long badass but lazy and boring That wouldn't have stoped Dave at all if he still was making episodes. You do not see Vader in Rebels however but a phony Inquisitor who can't even take down a child. Must run in the Sith Bloodline.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:15:15 GMT -5
It's unrealistic to think Boba would have not gotten out he has more weapons then some space ships... Plus he's got armour. Way more realistic than Maul which is just plain stupid. Boba was eaten by a creature. I think Maul can survive without legs. No fall would have killed him, attaching to a spider js just dumb, internal and eventually external bleeding would have killed him. No way does he survive and he's a fraction of Anakin. That's why every piece of content now I wish for his head cut off.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:16:03 GMT -5
She's no longer a Padawan, and Vader is a cyborg, he's no longer at his full strength. Vader is stronger... It's not like mechanical arms can make you weaker. Yes, they certainly can. And Ahsoka is not weak either, especially not many years after the cl8ne wars (assuming she survived).
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:16:14 GMT -5
Boba was eaten by a creature. I think Maul can survive without legs. No fall would have killed him, attaching to a spider js just dumb, internal and eventually external bleeding would have killed him. No way does he survive and he's a fraction of Anakin. That's why every piece of content now I wish for his head cut off. So... He can't survive but Anakin can when he loses his hands so many times and burned so much skin off and losing his legs as well?
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:17:11 GMT -5
That wouldn't have stoped Dave at all if he still was making episodes. You do not see Vader in Rebels however but a phony Inquisitor who can't even take down a child. Must run in the Sith Bloodline. They're mainly just using other characters. None of the big characters are in rebels. Vader has done his part well enough over 17 years. And if they brought Vader in it would mean there's no point to this show at all.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:17:31 GMT -5
It's unrealistic to think Boba would have not gotten out he has more weapons then some space ships... Plus he's got armour. Way more realistic than Maul which is just plain stupid. Boba was eaten by a creature. I think Maul can survive without legs. *a blind guy
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:18:22 GMT -5
You do not see Vader in Rebels however but a phony Inquisitor who can't even take down a child. Must run in the Sith Bloodline. They're mainly just using other characters. None of the big characters are in rebels. Vader has done his part well enough over 17 years. And if they brought Vader in it would mean there's no point to this show at all. There is no point to Rebels at all. No one cares about these Crew Members they are just rip offs of Han Solo's group.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 29, 2014 18:18:51 GMT -5
No fall would have killed him, attaching to a spider js just dumb, internal and eventually external bleeding would have killed him. No way does he survive and he's a fraction of Anakin. That's why every piece of content now I wish for his head cut off. So... He can't survive but Anakin can when he loses his hands so many times and burned so much skin off and losing his legs as well? Yes you can survive fire but you can't survive losing critical organs and falling 19284848302928383 feet
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 29, 2014 18:19:42 GMT -5
They're mainly just using other characters. None of the big characters are in rebels. Vader has done his part well enough over 17 years. And if they brought Vader in it would mean there's no point to this show at all. There is no point to Rebels at all. No one cares about these Crew Members they are just rip offs of Han Solo's group. There's no point because you don't like it..
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:20:16 GMT -5
So... He can't survive but Anakin can when he loses his hands so many times and burned so much skin off and losing his legs as well? Yes you can survive fire but you can't survive losing critical organs and falling 19284848302928383 feet It was technically lava and a saber to his pelvis by Obi Wan. You lose a lot of blood in that situation as well.
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Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2014 18:20:39 GMT -5
No fall would have killed him, attaching to a spider js just dumb, internal and eventually external bleeding would have killed him. No way does he survive and he's a fraction of Anakin. That's why every piece of content now I wish for his head cut off. So... He can't survive but Anakin can when he loses his hands so many times and burned so much skin off and losing his legs as well? Maul is no where near as strong as Anakin. Even in the suit Vader has more force power than anyone but Luke. And there's people in real life that have survived being burned bad or explosions. Plus he had immediate medical help pretty much in probably the best private medical lab on coruscant in a medical wonderland of the future. So yes it pretty likely he would survive. There's really no reason Padme should have died with the kind of tech they have.
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Post by Pinda on Sept 29, 2014 18:20:46 GMT -5
So... He can't survive but Anakin can when he loses his hands so many times and burned so much skin off and losing his legs as well? Yes you can survive fire but you can't survive losing critical organs and falling 19284848302928383 feet Fact: 100% of the people that lose all their limbs and get burned alive in a pool of lava die.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 29, 2014 18:21:08 GMT -5
There is no point to Rebels at all. No one cares about these Crew Members they are just rip offs of Han Solo's group. There's no point because you don't like it.. There isn't a point whatsoever. The Plot is weak, there is no motivation for the characters actions and it's all too convenient. I'm sure thousands of others can agree with me.
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