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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:28:34 GMT -5
Well you guys are expecting too much for a show with a target audience that's younger than that of TCW.. And most shows are like this with black and white heroes and villains. TCW was an exception
So yeah you wouldn't like anything because it's for kids
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:30:11 GMT -5
Let's not talk about soldiers... But the imperials are all just pure evil for some reason... that's one of the biggest flaws in Star Wars anyway, but this just made it even worse. Having realistic villains is important for the story. No one would get mad if someone came to help him after his spaceship crashed... Like you could understand Maul, Vizsla, and Ventress's motives. Well, TCW didn't have the most developed villains either... there are series where the villains are even better in terms of motives and development. But that's thanks to the flaws from the movies... the Sith are just portrayed as pure evil. But yeah, Maul, Vizsla, Ventress and even Bane have motives that make sense, and they're all not truly evil. But then you have Sidious, Dooku and Grievous who ARE pure evil... |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:35:01 GMT -5
Well you guys are expecting too much for a show with a target audience that's younger than that of TCW.. And most shows are like this with black and white heroes and villains. TCW was an exception So yeah you wouldn't like anything because it's for kids Okay I want you to do this: 1. Watch Avatar: The Last Airbender 2. Realize that the shows target audience is 6-12 year old kids 3. Realize how much Rebels(which probably has the same target audience) sucks. The Last Airbender didn't have really evil villains. Actually the Sidious-like villain (the guy behind everything who barely does anything) was sort of really evil... but you could still see why he became like that and why he did certain things. But all other villains are somewhere in the grey area. Just because its a show for kids does not mean that all villains have to be unrealistically evil... I bet that will even give children an unrealistic view on the world... |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:39:03 GMT -5
I still don't understand why everyone loves the OT so much. There is so many flaws in the OT, why are they suddenly saying how we should just forget the Prequels because they are so bad, but really the OT isn't as good either.
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:39:28 GMT -5
Well you guys are expecting too much for a show with a target audience that's younger than that of TCW.. And most shows are like this with black and white heroes and villains. TCW was an exception So yeah you wouldn't like anything because it's for kids Okay I want you to do this: 1. Watch Avatar: The Last Airbender 2. Realize that the shows target audience is 6-12 year old kids 3. Realize how much Rebels(which probably has the same target audience) sucks. The Last Airbender didn't have really evil villains. Actually the Sidious-like villain (the guy behind everything who barely does anything) was sort of really evil... but you could still see why he became like that and why he did certain things. But all other villains are somewhere in the grey area. Just because its a show for kids does not mean that all villains have to be unrealistically evil... I bet that will even give children an unrealistic view on the world... Okay another exception... And yeah it doesn't have to be like that but that's the way it just is except for like TCW (mostly) and Avatar.. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:39:44 GMT -5
Like you could understand Maul, Vizsla, and Ventress's motives. Well, TCW didn't have the most developed villains either... there are series where the villains are even better in terms of motives and development. But that's thanks to the flaws from the movies... the Sith are just portrayed as pure evil. But yeah, Maul, Vizsla, Ventress and even Bane have motives that make sense, and they're all not truly evil. But then you have Sidious, Dooku and Grievous who ARE pure evil... *Cough* Amon *Cough* Zaheer |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:40:31 GMT -5
I still don't understand why everyone loves the OT so much. There is so many flaws in the OT, why are they suddenly saying how we should just forget the Prequels because they are so bad, but really the OT isn't as good either. Actually I think the OT was a lot better than the PT at least TPM and AOTC.. And right now they're trying to shift focus to that era because that's around when VII is set |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:42:20 GMT -5
I still don't understand why everyone loves the OT so much. There is so many flaws in the OT, why are they suddenly saying how we should just forget the Prequels because they are so bad, but really the OT isn't as good either. Actually I think the OT was a lot better than the PT at least TPM and AOTC.. And right now they're trying to shift focus to that era because that's around when VII is set IDK man. I just found A New Hope boring. TPM Might have been bad but I still enjoyed watching it. I didn't enjoy watching Stormtroopers run around getting shot at and never killing anyone. The duels were pathetic unlike the prequels. They were like talking politics while dueling in the OT, like come on? |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:43:22 GMT -5
Okay I want you to do this: 1. Watch Avatar: The Last Airbender 2. Realize that the shows target audience is 6-12 year old kids 3. Realize how much Rebels(which probably has the same target audience) sucks. The Last Airbender didn't have really evil villains. Actually the Sidious-like villain (the guy behind everything who barely does anything) was sort of really evil... but you could still see why he became like that and why he did certain things. But all other villains are somewhere in the grey area. Just because its a show for kids does not mean that all villains have to be unrealistically evil... I bet that will even give children an unrealistic view on the world... Okay another exception... And yeah it doesn't have to be like that but that's the way it just is except for like TCW (mostly) and Avatar.. There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:44:12 GMT -5
Prequels > Originals. Honestly, I was actually bored last time I watched A New Hope (which is a while ago). It's actually not really that good.
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:44:37 GMT -5
Okay another exception... And yeah it doesn't have to be like that but that's the way it just is except for like TCW (mostly) and Avatar.. There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. Or original... |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2014 15:44:59 GMT -5
I still don't understand why everyone loves the OT so much. There is so many flaws in the OT, why are they suddenly saying how we should just forget the Prequels because they are so bad, but really the OT isn't as good either. Everyone is way too hard on the PT. I saw TPM first and I thought it was amazing. I actually didn't like AOTC because it was kind of a mess and missed out on things they should have developed better. ROTS was really good. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:45:35 GMT -5
Prequels > Originals. Honestly, I was actually bored last time I watched A New Hope (which is a while ago). It's actually not really that good. Thank you! The whole point of movies is to have fun and enjoy the movie. So what if they are bad? Transformers I, II, III might have been bad but I loved it because I had fun while watching it. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2014 15:45:57 GMT -5
There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. Or original... Why make an original villain when you can photoshop the Son? |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:46:17 GMT -5
I still don't understand why everyone loves the OT so much. There is so many flaws in the OT, why are they suddenly saying how we should just forget the Prequels because they are so bad, but really the OT isn't as good either. Everyone is way too hard on the PT. I saw TPM first and I thought it was amazing. I actually didn't like AOTC because it was kind of a mess and missed out on things they should have developed better. ROTS was really good. Same, AOTC I didn't like as much... But ROTS I was blown away. My Dad is an old time SW fan and he found ROTS the best SW film. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:46:30 GMT -5
Why make an original villain when you can photoshop the Son? It's Cheaper  |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2014 15:46:35 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ?
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:46:56 GMT -5
Why make an original villain when you can photoshop the Son? And make a 3D model of Admiral Zhao. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:46:53 GMT -5
Actually I think the OT was a lot better than the PT at least TPM and AOTC.. And right now they're trying to shift focus to that era because that's around when VII is set IDK man. I just found A New Hope boring. TPM Might have been bad but I still enjoyed watching it. I didn't enjoy watching Stormtroopers run around getting shot at and never killing anyone. The duels were pathetic unlike the prequels. They were like talking politics while dueling in the OT, like come on? They had better technology and shiz for the PT and how were they pathetic? I haven't watched OT in a while but I think they were sort of emotional or at least had some meaning behind them... And idk what you mean by talking about politics during them but they sorta did that with Anakin vs Obi-wan too Okay another exception... And yeah it doesn't have to be like that but that's the way it just is except for like TCW (mostly) and Avatar.. There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. But it's not bad to the people whom the show is made for |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:47:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ? It's my least favorite of the OT |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:48:06 GMT -5
IDK man. I just found A New Hope boring. TPM Might have been bad but I still enjoyed watching it. I didn't enjoy watching Stormtroopers run around getting shot at and never killing anyone. The duels were pathetic unlike the prequels. They were like talking politics while dueling in the OT, like come on? They had better technology and shiz for the PT and how were they pathetic? I haven't watched OT in a while but I think they were sort of emotional or at least had some meaning behind them... And idk what you mean by talking about politics during them but they sorta did that with Anakin vs Obi-wan too There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. But it's not bad to the people that the show is made for Have you seen the Vader vs Old Ben scene...? |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2014 15:48:27 GMT -5
IDK man. I just found A New Hope boring. TPM Might have been bad but I still enjoyed watching it. I didn't enjoy watching Stormtroopers run around getting shot at and never killing anyone. The duels were pathetic unlike the prequels. They were like talking politics while dueling in the OT, like come on? They had better technology and shiz for the PT and how were they pathetic? I haven't watched OT in a while but I think they were sort of emotional or at least had some meaning behind them... And idk what you mean by talking about politics during them but they sorta did that with Anakin vs Obi-wan too There are more exceptions, I'm sure. But even if there are not, it's not an excuse to make this series bad. They knew how to make a proper series (due to TCW) so they should know to make realistic villains. But it's not bad to the people that the show is made for Well you shouldn't kill a perfectly good show everyone liked and replace it with a toy-selling cash cow for six-year olds.. unless you're Disney of course. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:48:48 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ? I think ROTJ is the best episode of the original trilogy. |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:49:15 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ? Eh. 1. ROTS 2. TPM 3. Empire Strikes Back 4. AOTC 5. ROTJ 6. ANH |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:49:24 GMT -5
They had better technology and shiz for the PT and how were they pathetic? I haven't watched OT in a while but I think they were sort of emotional or at least had some meaning behind them... And idk what you mean by talking about politics during them but they sorta did that with Anakin vs Obi-wan too But it's not bad to the people that the show is made for Have you seen the Vader vs Old Ben scene...? Well that was kinda stupid but I don't think Ben wanted to fight him and he was also nearing the end of his life he didn't really need to continue |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 1, 2014 15:49:44 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ? I think ROTJ is the best episode of the original trilogy. Why? I thought it was unrealistic and not as dark as it should have been. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:50:05 GMT -5
They had better technology and shiz for the PT and how were they pathetic? I haven't watched OT in a while but I think they were sort of emotional or at least had some meaning behind them... And idk what you mean by talking about politics during them but they sorta did that with Anakin vs Obi-wan too But it's not bad to the people that the show is made for Well you shouldn't kill a perfectly good show everyone liked and replace it with a toy-selling cash cow for six-year olds.. unless you're Disney of course. Shit happens |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 1, 2014 15:50:10 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't like ROTJ? Eh. 1. ROTS 2. TPM 3. Empire Strikes Back 4. AOTC 5. ROTJ 6. ANH 1. ROTS 2. ROTJ 3. TPM 4. AOTC 5. ESB 6. ANH |
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Post by ?6 (CBK) on Sept 1, 2014 15:51:53 GMT -5
Have you seen the Vader vs Old Ben scene...? Well that was kinda stupid but I don't think Ben wanted to fight him and he was also nearing the end of his life he didn't really need to continue But we didn't know that at that time. The PT kind of showed that he was at least a good fighter... |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 1, 2014 15:53:18 GMT -5
Well that was kinda stupid but I don't think Ben wanted to fight him and he was also nearing the end of his life he didn't really need to continue But we didn't know that at that time. The PT kind of showed that he was at least a good fighter... Fighting ability isn't really everything.. |
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