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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 18:25:05 GMT -5
OMFG would you actually think? Compassion and that Potato Rules has nothing to do with being immortal and I know what immortality is. That stuff does affect any of it. Sith can stay alive in the pyshical form. Might does not cut it. Qui-Gon directly states that one requires compassion to achieve immortality. That is G-canon. Everything else contradicts that, therefore it is non-canon. 1. Immortality as a force ghost 2. That was said 1000s of years after the ancient sith how does that even relate? Qui Gon probably had no knowledge of any sith. 3. Well it's canon so obviously it has no affect. |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 18:26:52 GMT -5
Qui-Gon directly states that one requires compassion to achieve immortality. That is G-canon. Everything else contradicts that, therefore it is non-canon. 1. Immortality as a force ghost 2. That was said 1000s of years after the ancient sith how does that even relate? Qui Gon probably had no knowledge of any sith. 3. Well it's canon so obviously it has no affect. "Eternal life…" "The ultimate goal of the Sith, yet they can never achieve it; it comes only through the release of self, not the exaltation of self. It comes through compassion, not greed. Love is the answer to the darkness." |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 18:33:39 GMT -5
1. Immortality as a force ghost 2. That was said 1000s of years after the ancient sith how does that even relate? Qui Gon probably had no knowledge of any sith. 3. Well it's canon so obviously it has no affect. "Eternal life…" "The ultimate goal of the Sith, yet they can never achieve it; it comes only through the release of self, not the exaltation of self. It comes through compassion, not greed. Love is the answer to the darkness." Shortly after the reorganization of the Republic into the Galactic Empire, Yoda finally heard Jinn's voice clearly and proclaimed himself Jinn's pupil in order to master the skill the deceased Jedi had learned. It was achieved through extreme compassion, a rejection of selfishness and personal attachment to the point that the physical self fades away, but the consciousness remains as one with the Force." Only states compassion needed to become a force ghost that's it. Compassion has no affect on other means there is always ways to get around things.... |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 18:37:13 GMT -5
"Eternal life…" "The ultimate goal of the Sith, yet they can never achieve it; it comes only through the release of self, not the exaltation of self. It comes through compassion, not greed. Love is the answer to the darkness." Shortly after the reorganization of the Republic into the Galactic Empire, Yoda finally heard Jinn's voice clearly and proclaimed himself Jinn's pupil in order to master the skill the deceased Jedi had learned. It was achieved through extreme compassion, a rejection of selfishness and personal attachment to the point that the physical self fades away, but the consciousness remains as one with the Force." Only states compassion needed to become a force ghost that's it. Compassion has no affect on other means there is always ways to get around things.... The only way to retain one's identity after death is to become one with the Force. Sith can't do that because the Dark Side does not allow them to. If they die, they're dead. They can't stay alive. In G-canon, the only way to stay alive is to become one with the Force and it is stated that the Sith cannot do so. That's what makes Plagueis so special - he's the only one that got close, or perhaps even succeeded. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 18:42:24 GMT -5
Shortly after the reorganization of the Republic into the Galactic Empire, Yoda finally heard Jinn's voice clearly and proclaimed himself Jinn's pupil in order to master the skill the deceased Jedi had learned. It was achieved through extreme compassion, a rejection of selfishness and personal attachment to the point that the physical self fades away, but the consciousness remains as one with the Force." Only states compassion needed to become a force ghost that's it. Compassion has no affect on other means there is always ways to get around things.... The only way to retain one's identity after death is to become one with the Force. Sith can't do that because the Dark Side does not allow them to. If they die, they're dead. They can't stay alive. In G-canon, the only way to stay alive is to become one with the Force and it is stated that the Sith cannot do so. That's what makes Plagueis so special - he's the only one that got close, or perhaps even succeeded. I'm not talking about staying alive after death and becoming one with the force. A handful of sith where able to keep themselves alive forever in there physical bodies. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 18:54:09 GMT -5
Plus G-canon can't even affect much outside of its time period all it states is that the movies are important does not affect TOR at all.
And with 1000s of sith people will discover stuff.
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 19:21:56 GMT -5
Plus G-canon can't even affect much outside of its time period all it states is that the movies are important does not affect TOR at all. And with 1000s of sith people will discover stuff. It does, because the reason Plagueis was so important was because he was the only Sith who controlled life. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 20:01:17 GMT -5
Plus G-canon can't even affect much outside of its time period all it states is that the movies are important does not affect TOR at all. And with 1000s of sith people will discover stuff. It does, because the reason Plagueis was so important was because he was the only Sith who controlled life. Not the same as living forever in your original body. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 24, 2014 13:13:38 GMT -5
Plus G-canon can't even affect much outside of its time period all it states is that the movies are important does not affect TOR at all. And with 1000s of sith people will discover stuff. It does, because the reason Plagueis was so important was because he was the only Sith who controlled life.Which he only demonstrated once (an unimpressive demonstration) which was accidental. |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Feb 24, 2014 15:28:52 GMT -5
Did no one read my post!? Vitiate could have lived forever, but was mortally wounded, and died. Darth Bane learned the transfer of life essence from Darth Andeddu's holocron, and sidious did that too through his clones. Also, Lord Scourge was given immortality by Vitiate.
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 13:52:48 GMT -5
So random TCW question. Who was your favourite character that only appeared in ONE episode or arc? Tough decision. Darts D'Nar, Krell, Nuvo Vindi, and the guy from the Citadel arc were pretty cool. That inspector guy from season 2 was actually funny I thought.  The Father, Daughter, and Son were also awesome. Oh, and Morallo Eval.  there's still others that are awesome that I'm probably forgetting. |
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 14:02:13 GMT -5
Controlling midichlorians has nothing to do with their power. Sidious in his prime was superior in every way than Plageius in his prime furthermore the older sith outclass Plageius in every sense. And we can base Plageius' power on what we have already seen. And from what we have already seen we can see that Plageius has no real noteworthy abilities. So controlling life itself and creating the Sith Grand Plan is not noteworthy? So is Sidious' destroying the Republic, manipulating the most powerful force user ever (Anakin), taking out almost every Jedi, and getting complete rule over a new Empire that he now leads no good? I think it is. Sidious did a lot more than Plagueis IMO. I'd say Sidious is greater in pretty much everything than Plagueis, but Plaguies is still very powerful. |
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Post by Star on Feb 25, 2014 14:04:42 GMT -5
I had this idea about Darth Plagieus returning in TCW that I'm sure would never happen but I thought I'd share it anyway. Here it is: Around TPM, Plagieus knew Sidious was becoming too powerful and would try to kill him so he came up with a plan to survive. He linked himself to Darth Maul and kept him from dying when Obi-Wan cut him in half. So that's why Darth Maul survived. Plagieus's spirit hid in Darth Maul's mind until the time right. When Sidious came to kill Maul, Plagieus made his escape and was resurrected in a new body. So he returns from the dead, and Maul was just a pawn in the Plagieus's plan. OH. MY. GOSH.  |
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Post by Tyler Joseph on Mar 4, 2014 16:56:18 GMT -5
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Post by Pinda on Mar 4, 2014 16:59:57 GMT -5
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 4, 2014 17:07:32 GMT -5
Seen it too, but it is just nice to hear the familiar english voices again |
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Post by Potato on Mar 4, 2014 17:20:10 GMT -5
That animation's so good.
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Post by Potato on Mar 4, 2014 17:26:15 GMT -5
Here's a better look at that Yoda preview we got a long time ago. It's actually in good quality.
It's weird that they're still using that OT music. I thought they just did that to clips with unfinished music and then add in the actual music before it airs, but does this mean that music will be used in the actual episode?
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Post by Pinda on Mar 4, 2014 17:51:33 GMT -5
Here's a better look at that Yoda preview we got a long time ago. It's actually in good quality. It's weird that they're still using that OT music. I thought they just did that to clips with unfinished music and then add in the actual music before it airs, but does this mean that music will be used in the actual episode? No. The actual episode uses a different soundtrack |
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Post by Potato on Mar 4, 2014 17:55:37 GMT -5
Here's a better look at that Yoda preview we got a long time ago. It's actually in good quality. It's weird that they're still using that OT music. I thought they just did that to clips with unfinished music and then add in the actual music before it airs, but does this mean that music will be used in the actual episode? No. The actual episode uses a different soundtrack Darn, I figured they'd do that. I wonder why they don't have the actual music in this clip. |
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Post by bane on Mar 4, 2014 18:03:10 GMT -5
But I don't have netflix. ;__;
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Post by Star on Mar 4, 2014 22:13:34 GMT -5
But I don't have netflix. ;__; Same with me, Barney...  |
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Post by bane on Mar 4, 2014 22:30:13 GMT -5
But I don't have netflix. ;__; Same with me, Barney... Yeah... I wonder if someone will upload it online... hint hint |
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Post by Star on Mar 4, 2014 22:32:04 GMT -5
Same with me, Barney... Yeah... I wonder if someone will upload it online... hint hint They'd be a hero to those like us... |
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Post by bane on Mar 4, 2014 22:32:58 GMT -5
Yeah... I wonder if someone will upload it online... hint hint They'd be a hero to those like us... Yup... We'd do anything for them..... |
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Post by Star on Mar 4, 2014 22:33:59 GMT -5
They'd be a hero to those like us... Yup... We'd do anything for them..... And it doesn't have to be within reason... |
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Post by bane on Mar 4, 2014 22:37:19 GMT -5
Yup... We'd do anything for them..... And it doesn't have to be within reason... No... it really doesn’t... {Spoiler}
Reading this, I guarantee someone’s getting hard. |
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Post by Star on Mar 4, 2014 22:38:30 GMT -5
And it doesn't have to be within reason... No... it really doesn’t... {Spoiler}
Reading this, I guarantee someone’s getting hard. Lol |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Mar 5, 2014 6:20:09 GMT -5
Here's a better look at that Yoda preview we got a long time ago. It's actually in good quality. It's weird that they're still using that OT music. I thought they just did that to clips with unfinished music and then add in the actual music before it airs, but does this mean that music will be used in the actual episode? The episode uses other music. This preview was shown many months ago, so i think they just re-used it because it was never uploaded online (if you don't count cams) |
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Post by Kenbo on Mar 5, 2014 6:21:05 GMT -5
No... it really doesn’t... {Spoiler}
Reading this, I guarantee someone’s getting hard. Lol *stuffs Bane and Star into white van* where do you boys want to go....... |
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The Father, Daughter, and Son were also awesome. Oh, and Morallo Eval. 
there's still others that are awesome that I'm probably forgetting. 
