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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 12:09:05 GMT -5
On the back of the Plagueis novel, it states that  I doubt that is correct... Plageius done some exceptional things but the Sith in the Old Republic era could destroy Plageius ten times over. He could control the midichlorians to influence life. It's not about combat. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 12:13:45 GMT -5
I doubt that is correct... Plageius done some exceptional things but the Sith in the Old Republic era could destroy Plageius ten times over. He could control the midichlorians to influence life. It's not about combat. Controlling midi chlorians has nothing to do with power |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 12:16:30 GMT -5
He could control the midichlorians to influence life. It's not about combat. Controlling midi chlorians has nothing to do with power He was smart enough to control life, so he could be smart enough to keep himself alive one way or another. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 12:25:48 GMT -5
Already wrong when he isn't the most powerful....
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 13:25:08 GMT -5
Already wrong when he isn't the most powerful.... I don't see why it requires immense power. And he is powerful enough. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 13:42:19 GMT -5
Already wrong when he isn't the most powerful.... I don't see why it requires immense power. And he is powerful enough. Compared to older sith and Sidious... Plageius is weak |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 13:43:10 GMT -5
None of the Old Republic Sith/Jedi were ever mentioned in the movies or TCW. Plaguies was. That means he's the most powerful Sith in George Lucas-canon
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 13:44:24 GMT -5
I don't see why it requires immense power. And he is powerful enough. Compared to older sith and Sidious... Plageius is weak Yes, but older Sith never controlled midichlorians and Sidious couldn't figure that out either. Plagueis was smart and there's nothing that says he isn't extremely powerful either. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 13:51:15 GMT -5
Compared to older sith and Sidious... Plageius is weak Yes, but older Sith never controlled midichlorians and Sidious couldn't figure that out either. Plagueis was smart and there's nothing that says he isn't extremely powerful either. Controlling midichlorians has nothing to do with their power. Sidious in his prime was superior in every way than Plageius in his prime furthermore the older sith outclass Plageius in every sense. And we can base Plageius' power on what we have already seen. And from what we have already seen we can see that Plageius has no real noteworthy abilities. |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 13:54:25 GMT -5
Yes, but older Sith never controlled midichlorians and Sidious couldn't figure that out either. Plagueis was smart and there's nothing that says he isn't extremely powerful either. Controlling midichlorians has nothing to do with their power. Sidious in his prime was superior in every way than Plageius in his prime furthermore the older sith outclass Plageius in every sense. And we can base Plageius' power on what we have already seen. And from what we have already seen we can see that Plageius has no real noteworthy abilities. So controlling life itself and creating the Sith Grand Plan is not noteworthy? |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 13:54:44 GMT -5
None of the Old Republic Sith/Jedi were ever mentioned in the movies or TCW. Plaguies was. That means he's the most powerful Sith in George Lucas-cano Star Wars fatcbooks do not mention a most powerful sith. 2. Plageius' backstory and abilities are a part of the EU. 3. Canon does not come into this. 4. Controlling midi chlorians does not suddenly make you the most powerful sith. There are sith that had the ability to destroy stars and consume planets. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 13:55:20 GMT -5
Controlling midichlorians has nothing to do with their power. Sidious in his prime was superior in every way than Plageius in his prime furthermore the older sith outclass Plageius in every sense. And we can base Plageius' power on what we have already seen. And from what we have already seen we can see that Plageius has no real noteworthy abilities. So controlling life itself and creating the Sith Grand Plan is not noteworthy? The sith Grand Plan was not formulated by Plageius himself and accidentally coming across midi chlorians and not being able to utilise them to a great extent is insignificant next to consuming a planet |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 14:15:07 GMT -5
None of the Old Republic Sith/Jedi were ever mentioned in the movies or TCW. Plaguies was. That means he's the most powerful Sith in George Lucas-cano 1. Star Wars fatcbooks do not mention a most powerful sith. 2. Plageius' backstory and abilities are a part of the EU. 3. Canon does not come into this. 4.Controlling midi chlorians does not suddenly make you the most powerful sith. There are sith that had the ability to destroy stars and consume planets. 2. No. It was mentioned in RotS that he could manipulate life and save people from dying. 3. It does. 4. It does make you very powerful and if Palguies is alive his knowledge of Midichlorians would get it to make sense. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 14:18:49 GMT -5
None of the Old Republic Sith/Jedi were ever mentioned in the movies or TCW. Plaguies was. That means he's the most powerful Sith in George Lucas-canon So you mean he's the most powerful out of like 3' sith? And maybe 5% of Star Wars? Doesn't actually matter and Sidious is still stronger. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 14:20:19 GMT -5
Controlling midichlorians has nothing to do with their power. Sidious in his prime was superior in every way than Plageius in his prime furthermore the older sith outclass Plageius in every sense. And we can base Plageius' power on what we have already seen. And from what we have already seen we can see that Plageius has no real noteworthy abilities. So controlling life itself and creating the Sith Grand Plan is not noteworthy? It wouldn't take sith for that.... |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 14:22:08 GMT -5
None of the Old Republic Sith/Jedi were ever mentioned in the movies or TCW. Plaguies was. That means he's the most powerful Sith in George Lucas-canon So you mean he's the most powerful out of like 3' sith? And maybe 5% of Star Wars? Doesn't actually matter and Sidious is still stronger. Well, I think overall Sidious is better. But Plaguies has more knowledge on the Force and midichlorians which might make him stronger than Sidious in the Force. And I'm just saying those Old Republic Sith are overpowered, probably because they're from a different canon. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 14:22:15 GMT -5
1. Star Wars fatcbooks do not mention a most powerful sith. 2. Plageius' backstory and abilities are a part of the EU. 3. Canon does not come into this. 4.Controlling midi chlorians does not suddenly make you the most powerful sith. There are sith that had the ability to destroy stars and consume planets. 2. No. It was mentioned in RotS that he could manipulate life and save people from dying. 3. It does. 4. It does make you very powerful and if Palguies is alive his knowledge of Midichlorians would get it to make sense. . That was Palpatine exaggerating it. Plageius accidentally found out about the potential of midi chlorians 3. Explain, the "Plageius is the most powerful Sith Lord" on the back of the book is garbage. 4. No it does not, if I recall Plageius only demonstrated his ability to manipulate midi chlorians once. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 14:24:32 GMT -5
So you mean he's the most powerful out of like 3' sith? And maybe 5% of Star Wars? Doesn't actually matter and Sidious is still stronger. Well, I think overall Sidious is better. But Plaguies has more knowledge on the Force and midichlorians which might make him stronger than Sidious in the Force. And I'm just saying those Old Republic Sith are overpowered, probably because they're from a different canon. Definitely not. Plageius' discovery of midi chlorians was unintentional. Furthermore, Plageius has only demonstrated very weak force abilities |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 14:26:52 GMT -5
Well, I think overall Sidious is better. But Plaguies has more knowledge on the Force and midichlorians which might make him stronger than Sidious in the Force. And I'm just saying those Old Republic Sith are overpowered, probably because they're from a different canon. Definitely not. Plageius' discovery of midi chlorians was unintentional. Furthermore, Plageius has only demonstrated very weak force abilities It doesn't matter how he discovered how to manipulate midichlorians. The important thing is that he knows how to manipulate them, which make him powerful. |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 14:27:59 GMT -5
And I'm pretty sure Palpatine has more or the same knowledge of the force. Plus the whole midichlorian thing was kinda limited.
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 14:29:12 GMT -5
Definitely not. Plageius' discovery of midi chlorians was unintentional. Furthermore, Plageius has only demonstrated very weak force abilities It doesn't matter how he discovered how to manipulate midichlorians. The important thing is that he knows how to manipulate them, which make him powerful. I don't see how that really makes him powerful. He's able to create life? Okay how is that going to help you in the stretch of things.... |
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Post by Pinda on Feb 23, 2014 14:30:24 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how he discovered how to manipulate midichlorians. The important thing is that he knows how to manipulate them, which make him powerful. I don't see how that really makes him powerful. He's able to create life? Okay how is that going to help you in the stretch of things.... The ability to create life is very useful... especially if he was able to extend his own lifespan. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 14:31:10 GMT -5
Definitely not. Plageius' discovery of midi chlorians was unintentional. Furthermore, Plageius has only demonstrated very weak force abilities It doesn't matter how he discovered how to manipulate midichlorians. The important thing is that he knows how to manipulate them, which make him powerful. He wasn't skilled at manipulating them. He couldn't create life or prevent death. That was just stuff made up by Sidious to bring Anakin closer to the darkside. Also, Plageius' pitiful lightsaber and force abilities are no match for the vast majority of other sith. And he lost his precognition after the death of Tenebrous, making him an easy target |
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Post by Newan on Feb 23, 2014 14:32:14 GMT -5
I don't see how that really makes him powerful. He's able to create life? Okay how is that going to help you in the stretch of things.... The ability to create life is very useful... especially if he was able to extend his own lifespan. That was already accomplished in the past though so it does not make him very powerful. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 14:32:34 GMT -5
I don't see how that really makes him powerful. He's able to create life? Okay how is that going to help you in the stretch of things.... The ability to create life is very useful... especially if he was able to extend his own lifespan. He only created life once and that was accidental |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 15:26:50 GMT -5
So controlling life itself and creating the Sith Grand Plan is not noteworthy? The sith Grand Plan was not formulated by Plageius himself and controlling life is insignificant next to consuming a planet Actually the Grand Plan Sidious executed was thought up by Plagueis. |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 15:28:21 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how he discovered how to manipulate midichlorians. The important thing is that he knows how to manipulate them, which make him powerful. I don't see how that really makes him powerful. He's able to create life? Okay how is that going to help you in the stretch of things.... You do know that all Sith desired immortality, right? But no one figured it out because Sith can't, they lack compassion. But Plagueis, a Sith, did. |
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Post by Namialus on Feb 23, 2014 15:28:39 GMT -5
If Plagueis is in this arc then I'm pretty sure you'll see his power.
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 15:28:43 GMT -5
The sith Grand Plan was not formulated by Plageius himself and controlling life is insignificant next to consuming a planet Actually the Grand Plan Sidious executed was thought up by Plagueis. The Grand Plan was not thought up of by Plageius... It's origins date back to the time of Darth Bane |
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Post by bobafett590 on Feb 23, 2014 15:29:44 GMT -5
If Plagueis is in this arc then I'm pretty sure you'll see his power. Well Palpatine>Plageius . So Sidious will destroy Plageius as soon as he becomes aware that his master is alive |
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