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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:01:02 GMT -5
Well I think: Same life/training + same DNA = same personality You forgot to factor in experience.  They wouldn't get different experiences until the got into an actual battle. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Sept 8, 2013 13:03:03 GMT -5
Who do you think was more responsible for the Clone Wars? CIS or The Republic?
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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:04:04 GMT -5
Who do you think was more responsible for the Clone Wars? CIS or The Republic? The Sith. |
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Post by Namialus on Sept 8, 2013 13:04:18 GMT -5
You forgot to factor in experience. They wouldn't get different experiences until the got into an actual battle. Different squads, training exercises, all that stuff. Also, clones are basically human.. they get free time on Kamino. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:07:20 GMT -5
They wouldn't get different experiences until the got into an actual battle. Different squads, training exercises, all that stuff. Also, clones are basically human.. they get free time on Kamino. They are humans. But they share the same DNA, much of your behavior is decided by your DNA. There can be slight differences, but large differences can only exist if something entirely different happened to them, and until the leave Kamino their lives are pretty much the same. My main problem with the clones in TCW though was that they spend too much time on them, which in my opinion was wasted time they could have spend on characters like Maul, Bane, Obi-wan, Ahsoka, Ventress. Or Vizsla and Savage, who had almost no character development and whose deaths felt too early for me. |
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Sept 8, 2013 13:09:10 GMT -5
Savage is also the only known character to duel all of the sith from the SW movies. Dooku, Vader (while he's still Anakin), Maul, and Sidious. That's another reason why I think he's awesome. And he didn't duel Maul. |
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Post by Namialus on Sept 8, 2013 13:09:53 GMT -5
Different squads, training exercises, all that stuff. Also, clones are basically human.. they get free time on Kamino. They are humans. But they share the same DNA, much of your behavior is decided by your DNA. There can be slight differences, but large differences can only exist if something entirely different happened to them, and until the leave Kamino their lives are pretty much the same. My main problem with the clones in TCW though was that they spend too much time on them, which in my opinion was wasted time they could have spend on characters like Maul, Bane, Obi-wan, Ahsoka, Ventress. Or Vizsla and Savage, who had almost no character development and whose deaths felt too early for me. .. Clone Wars. |
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Post by Namialus on Sept 8, 2013 13:10:07 GMT -5
Savage is also the only known character to duel all of the sith from the SW movies. Dooku, Vader (while he's still Anakin), Maul, and Sidious. That's another reason why I think he's awesome. And he didn't duel Maul. Yes he did, in Revival. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:11:29 GMT -5
They are humans. But they share the same DNA, much of your behavior is decided by your DNA. There can be slight differences, but large differences can only exist if something entirely different happened to them, and until the leave Kamino their lives are pretty much the same. My main problem with the clones in TCW though was that they spend too much time on them, which in my opinion was wasted time they could have spend on characters like Maul, Bane, Obi-wan, Ahsoka, Ventress. Or Vizsla and Savage, who had almost no character development and whose deaths felt too early for me. .. Clone Wars. They could have called it the droid wars just as well, but the droids didn't get character development... |
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Post by Namialus on Sept 8, 2013 13:11:57 GMT -5
They could have called it the droid wars just as well, but the droids didn't get character development... ...............................pinda.. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:13:14 GMT -5
Ok, let's stop talking about clones. I could complain about them for hours, but I think I'm kinda getting annoying.
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Post by Cad Bane (Dark) on Sept 8, 2013 13:13:35 GMT -5
That's another reason why I think he's awesome. And he didn't duel Maul. Yes he did, in Revival. That was very brief and not dramatic. I don't consider that a lightsaber duel. Should have been longer and more awesome. |
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Post by bobafett590 on Sept 8, 2013 13:15:49 GMT -5
That was very brief and not dramatic. I don't consider that a lightsaber duel. Should have been longer and more awesome. It was short because Savage didn't have the skill to stand up to Maul. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Sept 8, 2013 13:37:57 GMT -5
The same training has nothing to do with personalities. The training brings the personalities out. Well I think: Same life/training + same DNA = same personality That's a very black and white view. |
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Post by Ivar-Jedi on Sept 8, 2013 13:38:51 GMT -5
Ok, let's stop talking about clones. I could complain about them for hours, but I think I'm kinda getting annoying. No it's not annoying. You're just sharing you opinion but i am just sharing mine back |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 8, 2013 13:46:16 GMT -5
Well I think: Same life/training + same DNA = same personality That's a very black and white view. Well personalities are based on experiences and DNA... so if two people have had the same experiences and DNA they are pretty much the same. Also, I posted an idea about the first episode for the group series, which merged the existing ideas with the ones you and Mav discussed earlier. I also posted a suggestion for a part of Valk's role in the episode, so I'd like to hear your opinion. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 13, 2013 13:02:29 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now?
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Post by Pinda on Sept 13, 2013 13:09:59 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? Or Savage's armor... he got shot so many times by droids and still survived, while clones die after one shot. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 13, 2013 13:50:14 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? I think Clones/Stormtroopers are still alive off screen.. And it could be heavier or more expensive or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 14:29:44 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? Or Savage's armor... he got shot so many times by droids and still survived, while clones die after one shot. Well he was so big and muscular that the shots didn't effect him probably. I thought I remember him getting hit and we saw a hole in his armor so I don't think it was laser proof. His armor might have came from the night sister's when he was transformed though I'm not sure. Same goes for the skin from the dead Zillo. They killed the beast why not use it? But some of that might have been explained in the second part of the Zillo arc in which they did intend to do before Disney. |
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Post by Potato on Sept 13, 2013 14:36:44 GMT -5
That's a very black and white view. Well personalities are based on experiences and DNA... so if two people have had the same experiences and DNA they are pretty much the same. Also, I posted an idea about the first episode for the group series, which merged the existing ideas with the ones you and Mav discussed earlier. I also posted a suggestion for a part of Valk's role in the episode, so I'd like to hear your opinion. Sorry that I'm responding to this late but I just wanted to add something.  Saying something like that is like saying twins are the exact same and aren't unique. They have pretty much the same DNA and experience very similar things (especially in their youth). But that doesn't make them the exact same. Everyone has their own personalities they develop and they all react to different events in different ways. |
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Post by Namialus on Sept 13, 2013 14:45:48 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? You don't know how expensive that could be. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 13, 2013 14:55:50 GMT -5
Well personalities are based on experiences and DNA... so if two people have had the same experiences and DNA they are pretty much the same. Also, I posted an idea about the first episode for the group series, which merged the existing ideas with the ones you and Mav discussed earlier. I also posted a suggestion for a part of Valk's role in the episode, so I'd like to hear your opinion. Sorry that I'm responding to this late but I just wanted to add something. Saying something like that is like saying twins are the exact same and aren't unique. They have pretty much the same DNA and experience very similar things (especially in their youth). But that doesn't make them the exact same. Everyone has their own personalities they develop and they all react to different events in different ways. Twins have very different experiences and don't share the exact same DNA, there are small differences. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 13, 2013 14:56:31 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? I think Clones/Stormtroopers are still alive off screen.. And it could be heavier or more expensive or something. Obi-Wan still seemed able to run and jump around. |
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Post by Spidyyr on Sept 13, 2013 14:58:22 GMT -5
Sorry that I'm responding to this late but I just wanted to add something. Saying something like that is like saying twins are the exact same and aren't unique. They have pretty much the same DNA and experience very similar things (especially in their youth). But that doesn't make them the exact same. Everyone has their own personalities they develop and they all react to different events in different ways. Twins have very different experiences and don't share the exact same DNA, there are small differences. Not really. They live in the same house and receive about the same attention. (By coincidence, two twins walked by me as I typed this). |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 13, 2013 14:58:56 GMT -5
Remember Obi-Wan's laser proof armor in Deception? Why don't clones wear that instead of the useless armor they have now? You don't know how expensive that could be. At least let senators or Jedi use it then. I'm sure Ima-gun Di, Nahdar Vebb and especially that senator Cad Bane shot in "Hostage Crisis" could wear armor similar to Obi-wan's in "Deception" all the time. |
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 13, 2013 14:59:33 GMT -5
I think Clones/Stormtroopers are still alive off screen.. And it could be heavier or more expensive or something. Obi-Wan still seemed able to run and jump around. Well he is a Jedi |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 13, 2013 15:00:13 GMT -5
Twins have very different experiences and don't share the exact same DNA, there are small differences. Not really. They live in the same house and receive about the same attention. (By coincidence, two twins walked by me as I typed this). Still, most twins don't have huge personality differences when they're young. But clones seem to be really different, just compare Echo to Hevy. |
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Post by Pinda on Sept 13, 2013 15:01:29 GMT -5
About the Zilo beast: It must be pretty hard, if not impossible, to make armor from a pretty much indestructible material.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 15:01:40 GMT -5
You don't know how expensive that could be. At least let senators or Jedi use it then. I'm sure Ima-gun Di, Nahdar Vebb and especially that senator Cad Bane shot in "Hostage Crisis" could wear armor similar to Obi-wan's in "Deception" all the time. I say who cares how much it cost because if it was totally repellent from lasers and etc. Then you would win the war automatically preventing further senate bills. So I would go for it. In the long run you save yourself from further debt. |
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Saying something like that is like saying twins are the exact same and aren't unique. They have pretty much the same DNA and experience very similar things (especially in their youth). But that doesn't make them the exact same. Everyone has their own personalities they develop and they all react to different events in different ways.
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