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Andor
May 26, 2022 13:58:23 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on May 26, 2022 13:58:23 GMT -5
Yo this actually looks incredible. I might be getting my hopes up but this might finally be the Star Wars I want. Politics and worldbuilding are back
Apparently it's 2 seasons, 24 episodes total. First season is 4 years before Rogue One so basically the same as Rebels timeline. Second season will lead up to the movie.
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May 29, 2022 10:16:04 GMT -5
Post by Star on May 29, 2022 10:16:04 GMT -5
This trailer really impressed me. I think there's a lot of potential for them to build on some pivotal Rebellion characters and flesh out the Empire.
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May 29, 2022 16:59:18 GMT -5
Post by Newan on May 29, 2022 16:59:18 GMT -5
This does look really good, I’m guessing it might be shorter episodes though. Only 4 years before Rogue One? So I guess the clones are a flashback to him losing his family or something.
Anything that focuses heavily on the Empire I quite enjoy. I really hope Director Krennic is a big part of the second season if it’s a lead up to the movie. Also I really would like to see a Thrawn cameo in season 2 which I think would be a real possibility since he’s bound to appear in Ahsoka. Actually he will probably appear in that before season 2 releases anyways. I would prefer they keep Vader out of this one and give him his own show after Kenobi… or they could always do a Maul show leading up to Solo…
But I want to see the world building like Kenobi said
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Jul 19, 2022 12:48:58 GMT -5
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Post by Star on Jul 19, 2022 12:48:58 GMT -5
Some more footage. Just over a month to go, so they're probably going to ramp up the marketing.
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Jul 22, 2022 20:09:02 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Jul 22, 2022 20:09:02 GMT -5
I really like the casting for the Imperial officers in most of the TV shows, semi prominent actors that make for decent villains. The one imperial at the desk there is the Maester for Cersei in the later GoT seasons. Not sure who the female officer is, but I’m pretty certain I’ve seen her before. In Mando the officers in the Bo-Karan episode and the Bill Burr episode were both great as well.
Think this show will be good, I just really want Krennic in season 2. If he’s not there then I’m not sure what’s the point making a show to tie into R1.
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Aug 2, 2022 12:01:11 GMT -5
Post by Star on Aug 2, 2022 12:01:11 GMT -5
A shame that this was pushed back almost a month, but at least they compensate by making it a three episode premiere.
The new trailer looks really promising and part of that is probably because my expectations have been lower for this series than all previous ones. I just hope it doesn't feel as mediocre as BoBF and Kenobi... Fingers crossed the end result really does impress like these trailers have.
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Aug 6, 2022 14:19:30 GMT -5
Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 6, 2022 14:19:30 GMT -5
A shame that this was pushed back almost a month, but at least they compensate by making it a three episode premiere. The new trailer looks really promising and part of that is probably because my expectations have been lower for this series than all previous ones. I just hope it doesn't feel as mediocre as BoBF and Kenobi... Fingers crossed the end result really does impress like these trailers have. Certainly looks more cinematic, given how the projection screen sets can feel too small and confined. This feels like they had much more room to play with. Also, with the Imperial senate involved, does this mean Palpatine will appear?
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Aug 7, 2022 0:13:02 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Aug 7, 2022 0:13:02 GMT -5
Weird pushing back the release date… September 21st? Bad Batch is still set to premiere on September 28th at the moment which actually means these two shows are going to have the same episode dates every week atm…
They must have pushed it back cause of She Hulk to maximize subscriptions…
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Sept 10, 2022 15:06:16 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 10, 2022 15:06:16 GMT -5
Honestly this looks great… I love the focus and the politics here. Funny enough though I think season 2 will be much better as I expect we will see Krennic a lot. The actor is gonna be in Secret Invasion as well so they already got him signed on for one D+ show.
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Sept 21, 2022 18:02:48 GMT -5
Post by Kenbo on Sept 21, 2022 18:02:48 GMT -5
Thought it was really boring tbh. Nothing really happened. Didn't think there were any I nteresting, likeable, or charismatic characters. How is this even Star Wars? It doesn't look or feel like it. Feels more like a generic sci fi mixed with a lame BBC drama. No aliens, everyone is just a British human.
And as usual it's met with endless praise lol. I was sure people would find this boring. I legit feel like I'm going crazy. And like I was ready to love it, I genuinely thought this was going to be an incredible show but right now I don't feel anything watching it. And we're already a fourth of the way in.
First and second episodes are really weak. Third was alright but imagine if they just released the first episode as planned on a weekly schedule. Would anyone stick around to watch more? Hopefully it picks up when the Empire comes in. I might take it all back guess we'll see.
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Sept 22, 2022 13:38:56 GMT -5
Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Sept 22, 2022 13:38:56 GMT -5
Thought it was really boring tbh. Nothing really happened. Didn't think there were any I nteresting, likeable, or charismatic characters. How is this even Star Wars? It doesn't look or feel like it. Feels more like a generic sci fi mixed with a lame BBC drama. No aliens, everyone is just a British human. And as usual it's met with endless praise lol. I was sure people would find this boring. I legit feel like I'm going crazy. And like I was ready to love it, I genuinely thought this was going to be an incredible show but right now I don't feel anything watching it. And we're already a fourth of the way in. First and second episodes are really weak. Third was alright but imagine if they just released the first episode as planned on a weekly schedule. Would anyone stick around to watch more? Hopefully it picks up when the Empire comes in. I might take it all back guess we'll see. I'm watching it on the weekend, so chances are I feel like I'll be feeling very so-so about it lol
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Sept 22, 2022 20:40:12 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 22, 2022 20:40:12 GMT -5
Wait what did they mean in the third episode… “killed republic officers”?? We’re those not Umbarans? That was the confederacy logo on their shoulder was it not?
Anyways, I thought it was definitely slow, but at the same time it’s really grounded at the moment. Honestly I thought the acting was better then most of the Star Wars we seen so far in the Disney era. I think there’s a lot of potential here now that they got the backstory out of the way. They will likely start bringing the Empire, the Senate and everything else in soon.
I predict the first season the main villain will be the Female from the trailers, second season I’m thinking it will be Krennic at least towards the end of it. I’m gonna guess Andor will be part of a splinter group that’s more extreme then most of the rebellion (assassination, infiltration, etc).
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Sept 27, 2022 18:31:32 GMT -5
Post by Kenbo on Sept 27, 2022 18:31:32 GMT -5
Wait what did they mean in the third episode… “killed republic officers”?? We’re those not Umbarans? That was the confederacy logo on their shoulder was it not? Anyways, I thought it was definitely slow, but at the same time it’s really grounded at the moment. Honestly I thought the acting was better then most of the Star Wars we seen so far in the Disney era. I think there’s a lot of potential here now that they got the backstory out of the way. They will likely start bringing the Empire, the Senate and everything else in soon. I predict the first season the main villain will be the Female from the trailers, second season I’m thinking it will be Krennic at least towards the end of it. I’m gonna guess Andor will be part of a splinter group that’s more extreme then most of the rebellion (assassination, infiltration, etc). People doing coming up with all these theories for why the CIS guys were called Republic officers. I’m gonna be honest I don’t think there is some elaborate plot point here. I think they genuinely forgot what the Republic logo looks like because that’s just Disney’s track record at this point lol. I thought they were Umbarans first too but they’re not yellow, a more light purplish color. So idk if they were infected or something. I thought they might be Mirialans like Luminara/Barriss. I actually thought the ship interior aesthetic looked nothing like CIS design. It looked Imperial with the shiny black panels and red and white buttons. So maybe it actually was a Republic ship because their aesthetic is pretty similar to the Empire
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Sept 28, 2022 7:30:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kenbo on Sept 28, 2022 7:30:45 GMT -5
Okay I take it all back bros. Episode 4 is podracing. I think seeing Coruscant, Mothma, and what's going on with the Empire really helped place this in the Star Wars setting. There was a lot of familiar stuff and references here and I don't see it as fan service but rather some important connective tissue that connects this show to the rest of the universe. Looking forward to the heist
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Sept 29, 2022 8:33:58 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2022 8:33:58 GMT -5
Wait what did they mean in the third episode… “killed republic officers”?? We’re those not Umbarans? That was the confederacy logo on their shoulder was it not? Anyways, I thought it was definitely slow, but at the same time it’s really grounded at the moment. Honestly I thought the acting was better then most of the Star Wars we seen so far in the Disney era. I think there’s a lot of potential here now that they got the backstory out of the way. They will likely start bringing the Empire, the Senate and everything else in soon. I predict the first season the main villain will be the Female from the trailers, second season I’m thinking it will be Krennic at least towards the end of it. I’m gonna guess Andor will be part of a splinter group that’s more extreme then most of the rebellion (assassination, infiltration, etc). People doing coming up with all these theories for why the CIS guys were called Republic officers. I’m gonna be honest I don’t think there is some elaborate plot point here. I think they genuinely forgot what the Republic logo looks like because that’s just Disney’s track record at this point lol. I thought they were Umbarans first too but they’re not yellow, a more light purplish color. So idk if they were infected or something. I thought they might be Mirialans like Luminara/Barriss. I actually thought the ship interior aesthetic looked nothing like CIS design. It looked Imperial with the shiny black panels and red and white buttons. So maybe it actually was a Republic ship because their aesthetic is pretty similar to the Empire I’m pretty sure the Umbarans were traditionally Republic that defected to the CIS. Also Umbarans have their own tech anyway, so they wouldn’t use ships with a CIS design. Idk I still think that’s what they were supposed to be. I assume we will see more eventually… the trailer had clones in it.
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Sept 29, 2022 8:38:31 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2022 8:38:31 GMT -5
Okay I take it all back bros. Episode 4 is podracing. I think seeing Coruscant, Mothma, and what's going on with the Empire really helped place this in the Star Wars setting. There was a lot of familiar stuff and references here and I don't see it as fan service but rather some important connective tissue that connects this show to the rest of the universe. Looking forward to the heist Episode 4 is genuinely some of the best live action content we’ve gotten in the Disney era… it’s clear the budget is there for this show. Coruscant looked really good and honestly the actors in this show are great. They got the grand maester from Game of Thrones as the ISB head which was an excellent casting choice. Luther (I think is his name?) is a pretty intriguing character as well. There’s actually a lot to dissect in his shop for Easter eggs and cameos. I saw a Gungan shield, holocrons, Mortis looking murals, Mando armor, and a Twi’leks kalikori. I agree Mon Mothma makes this a lot more interesting now as well
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Sept 29, 2022 8:40:28 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2022 8:40:28 GMT -5
This show has tons of potential for real universe building. I get the feeling this first season will be a lot more political cat and mouse game. I just hope they don’t lose sight of that in the second season. I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or bad thing that this show is capped at 24 episodes. Probably good as the budget is higher, also the writing is good.
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Sept 29, 2022 8:52:38 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2022 8:52:38 GMT -5
Characters I think we will see make cameos…
Season 1: Saw (confirmed) Bail Organa Palpatine Tarkin Mas Amedda
Season 2: Chirrut and Baze Director Krennic
Might show up in either season: Vader (Probably very briefly and in no real role other then threatening Krennic or something) K2-S0 (He will be a main cast though)
Small chance: Hera (She’s confirmed to be a general and on base during Rogue 1, so maybe) and Chopper Thrawn (He will be in the Ahsoka show, could see them making a connection to establish his imperial roots, at the least he will probably be name dropped since he was the one spearheading the effort vs the Rebels before Rogue One)
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Sept 29, 2022 9:32:04 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 29, 2022 9:32:04 GMT -5
Oh probably Galen Erso as well… I was thinking he might be the scientist visiting the base they are about to raid. But figured that would be too direct…
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Sept 29, 2022 16:15:55 GMT -5
Post by Kenbo on Sept 29, 2022 16:15:55 GMT -5
Characters I think we will see make cameos… Season 1: Saw (confirmed) Bail Organa Palpatine Tarkin Mas Amedda Season 2: Chirrut and Baze Director Krennic Might show up in either season: Vader (Probably very briefly and in no real role other then threatening Krennic or something) K2-S0 (He will be a main cast though) Small chance: Hera (She’s confirmed to be a general and on base during Rogue 1, so maybe) and Chopper Thrawn (He will be in the Ahsoka show, could see them making a connection to establish his imperial roots, at the least he will probably be name dropped since he was the one spearheading the effort vs the Rebels before Rogue One) Wasn't Mothma talking about finding someone new to join their circle? I might be completely misremembering that because I only saw the episode once but that person's probably Bail. Palp seems like a no brainer like he has to be there in the senate chamber right? Though honestly maybe they show a stand in. Amedda or someone else. I don't think there will be a lot of cameos tbh. That's kind of Filoni's thing and the show runners of this are always talking about how fans will hate it, there's no fan service, etc. I think I remember some producer or someone talking about only seeing characters that are essential and make sense. So I'd be surprised if we saw people like Tarkin, Kremnic, Vader and any of the other Rogue One characters. Personally I'd rather not see Vader anyway because he doesn't seem relevant to the plot. Hera actually might have a bigger chance than we think. I believe she's in the Ahsoka show and was in the leaked trailer so they could use this as an opportunity to introduce her. Though I guess it also depends on the time line. Andor is same timeframe as Rebels so she could be busy on Lothal
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Sept 30, 2022 16:58:09 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 30, 2022 16:58:09 GMT -5
Characters I think we will see make cameos… Season 1: Saw (confirmed) Bail Organa Palpatine Tarkin Mas Amedda Season 2: Chirrut and Baze Director Krennic Might show up in either season: Vader (Probably very briefly and in no real role other then threatening Krennic or something) K2-S0 (He will be a main cast though) Small chance: Hera (She’s confirmed to be a general and on base during Rogue 1, so maybe) and Chopper Thrawn (He will be in the Ahsoka show, could see them making a connection to establish his imperial roots, at the least he will probably be name dropped since he was the one spearheading the effort vs the Rebels before Rogue One) Wasn't Mothma talking about finding someone new to join their circle? I might be completely misremembering that because I only saw the episode once but that person's probably Bail. Palp seems like a no brainer like he has to be there in the senate chamber right? Though honestly maybe they show a stand in. Amedda or someone else. I don't think there will be a lot of cameos tbh. That's kind of Filoni's thing and the show runners of this are always talking about how fans will hate it, there's no fan service, etc. I think I remember some producer or someone talking about only seeing characters that are essential and make sense. So I'd be surprised if we saw people like Tarkin, Kremnic, Vader and any of the other Rogue One characters. Personally I'd rather not see Vader anyway because he doesn't seem relevant to the plot. Hera actually might have a bigger chance than we think. I believe she's in the Ahsoka show and was in the leaked trailer so they could use this as an opportunity to introduce her. Though I guess it also depends on the time line. Andor is same timeframe as Rebels so she could be busy on Lothal She did say that, but Bail should have been in that circle long before now. Both Mon Mothma and Bail were allies of Padme back in TCW/ ROTS era. So I kinda of doubt that’s the new person. Maybe it’s Ahsoka? Doubt they would show her though, could just be another senator we haven’t seen. Palpatine has to be at some point… this show would be pretty unbelievable without him doing anything at all. But if they don’t use Palpatine it’s why I think someone like Tarkin would appear at some point. I could see them not using Vader, but there’s no way we don’t see Krennic imo. They were already talking about Scariff, and eluding to resources being shifted to the Death Star. Yeah that’s why I was thinking Hera as well since she should be cast by now. Also why I was thinking Thrawn was a possibility for that reason as well. A lot of fans want Lars Mikkelson to play live action Thrawn since he did good with the voice. I kinda hope they do that tbh. I know Benedict Cumberbatch was a popular fan cast at one point too, but no way is that happening.
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Sept 30, 2022 16:59:13 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 30, 2022 16:59:13 GMT -5
Colonel Yularen is one I could see, isn’t he like one of the heads of the ISB in Rebels? Wouldn’t actually mind seeing him in live action.
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Sept 30, 2022 17:00:39 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Sept 30, 2022 17:00:39 GMT -5
I like the direction of this show, it feels more like a HBO series then a Disney + or Netflix style show.
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Post by Star on Oct 4, 2022 8:58:26 GMT -5
I'm very happy with Andor's approach over the first four episodes. The first couple episodes were a little slower, but in some ways felt like a necessary prelude to this series. They helped ground the narrative and Andor as a character before opening up a lot more plot threads in the fourth installment. Everything feels a little more mature and complex than the previous Star Wars shows (and honestly all MCU ones too). You can tell that this is really following in the vein of Rogue One by making Star Wars feel more real, gritty, and nuanced.
I'm invested in everything that's going on so far. The writing and direction style are making all the characters truly feel multidimensional, with them all possessing unique histories and compelling motivations. It's not like some previous shows where characters exist as over the top fan service or plot devices. The world also feels lived-in and sprawling, a magical quality that was best captured during the OT.
There is endless potential for Andor to expand the lore naturally. It's already doing this with the inclusion of the ISB, mention of the conflict on Mimban, name drops of Ars Dangor, Sly Moore, and Arvala-Six, plus the brief mention of Ghorman, where the Ghorman Massacre will soon occur.
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Post by Star on Oct 4, 2022 9:02:01 GMT -5
This show has tons of potential for real universe building. I get the feeling this first season will be a lot more political cat and mouse game. I just hope they don’t lose sight of that in the second season. I’m not sure if it’s a good thing or bad thing that this show is capped at 24 episodes. Probably good as the budget is higher, also the writing is good. I think it's definitely a good thing. It tells me that the writers have a clear story in mind from start to finish and don't want to overdo it. Also the episodes are about 40 mins each so far which isn't too bad for Disney+ shows. Altogether, that'll give us about 8 hours of content for each season, which is on par with the first season of Rings of Power.
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Oct 5, 2022 7:23:38 GMT -5
Post by Kenbo on Oct 5, 2022 7:23:38 GMT -5
Back to disliking it lol. It's just way too slow. I thought the heist mission would be this episode but it's just 40 minutes of walking around Scottish highlands. I don't get the point of the random 30 second Mon Mothma scenes. Also this is probably nitpicky and I'm focusing too much on it but I hate the sequel name drops like please shut up about Hosnian Prime and Jakku
Most Star Wars content is fun. This show does not have that fun element to it.
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Oct 5, 2022 9:09:58 GMT -5
Post by Kenbo on Oct 5, 2022 9:09:58 GMT -5
Do you guys think this is better than Mando? I suddenly see all this hate towards Mando and people saying Andor is better than basically everything made so far.
I think it’s way too early to make those kinds of statements however if we just compare these five episodes to other stuff, I would probably rank Andor very low. I think my current show ranking is:
TCW Mando Rebels Bad Batch Andor
Maybe Andor and Bad Batch are tied or could even switch places. I honestly don’t remember BB at all I’ve been meaning to rewatch it. But it for sure had several exciting moments. I don’t even consider BOBF and OWK canon but I would still feel that BOBF is more fun than Andor. Though I wouldn’t watch OWK over Andor
I’m wondering if we can expect every third episode to be the best. I know they talked about having three episode arcs for season 2 but they might’ve written a similar structure for season 1. Episode 3 was most climactic. I assume episode 6 will feel similar with seeing the heist. 7 and 8 may dip down again though with a lot more exposition for the next plot point.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:10:14 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Oct 6, 2022 22:10:14 GMT -5
Yeah it’s pretty obvious this shows seasons are divided into 4 movies/ stories imo. 3 episode arcs, honestly I don’t mind this at all… it doesn’t feel like a Disney + series at all. This is quite a lot different, it almost feels like a HBO series with the brief cuts to other characters. I’m actually quite liking it. Well shot, good dialogue, honestly it’s really well written. There’s a lot of very subtle things in these episodes. Syril’s room is filled with Clone Trooper figures showing a positive influence in his younger life and that very brief shot of the Coruscant Sun from the lower levels was really nice.
Also it sticks to the traditional Star Wars roots quite well, a lot of mentions of locations that have been in the established lore forever, not trying to make a bunch of junk out.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:11:48 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Oct 6, 2022 22:11:48 GMT -5
Do you guys think this is better than Mando? I suddenly see all this hate towards Mando and people saying Andor is better than basically everything made so far. I think it’s way too early to make those kinds of statements however if we just compare these five episodes to other stuff, I would probably rank Andor very low. I think my current show ranking is: TCW Mando Rebels Bad Batch Andor Maybe Andor and Bad Batch are tied or could even switch places. I honestly don’t remember BB at all I’ve been meaning to rewatch it. But it for sure had several exciting moments. I don’t even consider BOBF and OWK canon but I would still feel that BOBF is more fun than Andor. Though I wouldn’t watch OWK over Andor I’m wondering if we can expect every third episode to be the best. I know they talked about having three episode arcs for season 2 but they might’ve written a similar structure for season 1. Episode 3 was most climactic. I assume episode 6 will feel similar with seeing the heist. 7 and 8 may dip down again though with a lot more exposition for the next plot point. Writing wise I think it might be better then Mando tbh, if your just judging season 1 Andor vs season 1 Mando. Overall I’d still say Mando is better. However, they are different shows and different styles of story telling.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:12:32 GMT -5
Post by Newan on Oct 6, 2022 22:12:32 GMT -5
Does anyone think the Imperial scientist visiting might be someone significant that we’ve seen before? They keep mentioning it, but no real names.
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