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Post by Newan on Apr 24, 2020 3:04:27 GMT -5
Discussion for episode 11 of season 7 to be released on May 1st.
“After capturing Maul on Mandalore, Ahsoka's journey to the Jedi Council is disrupted when Order 66 is declared, turning her world upside down”
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Post by Newan on Apr 24, 2020 3:13:50 GMT -5
My guess is we will see some final goodbyes on Mandalore first, then Ahsoka will contact the council and Windu and that’s when we will see the whole “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi order” scene, which literally takes place as Anakin is being told the truth by Palpatine in ROTS.....
Shit is gonna get real this episode. I wonder if Maul and Ahsoka team up to survive or if Maul just escapes. I know in one of the trailers we see Maul fighting on what looks like a Venator.
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Post by Newan on Apr 24, 2020 3:22:47 GMT -5
Also this arc is totally debunking the idea that ROTS takes place over a long period of time, idk where that theory started but I never bought into it... to me ROTS is maybe 2 weeks max.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 24, 2020 9:15:21 GMT -5
Also this arc is totally debunking the idea that ROTS takes place over a long period of time, idk where that theory started but I never bought into it... to me ROTS is maybe 2 weeks max. I kind of don't like that it should've at least been a few weeks but now it seems like it's only a few days. If there is more passage of time, Anakin becoming a school shooter doesn't feel so sudden imo
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 24, 2020 11:01:58 GMT -5
Also this arc is totally debunking the idea that ROTS takes place over a long period of time, idk where that theory started but I never bought into it... to me ROTS is maybe 2 weeks max. I kind of don't like that it should've at least been a few weeks but now it seems like it's only a few days. If there is more passage of time, Anakin becoming a school shooter doesn't feel so sudden imo But the really awkward part is Padme's pregnancy. It's been assumed she wasn't even close to going into labour at the start of ROTS
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Post by Star on Apr 24, 2020 11:52:36 GMT -5
I kind of don't like that it should've at least been a few weeks but now it seems like it's only a few days. If there is more passage of time, Anakin becoming a school shooter doesn't feel so sudden imo But the really awkward part is Padme's pregnancy. It's been assumed she wasn't even close to going into labour at the start of ROTS That's the only part that really makes ROTS seem like it should occur over months, not days. They could make an in-universe explanation about the gestation period being shorter or act like Padme was much further into the pregnancy and just waited until very late to tell Anakin. Maybe there's another way they could go about it, but this is the only real aspect of the ROTS timeline that feels wrong in relation to everything else.
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Post by Star on Apr 24, 2020 11:56:26 GMT -5
I think this episode could very well be the best of the show. I can only imagine watching this arc without knowing the fates of Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul... Either way, I think Jesse has a part to play in Rex avoiding Order 66, but it feels like he'll probably die protecting the others.
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Post by zuma on Apr 25, 2020 15:21:33 GMT -5
I think this episode could very well be the best of the show. I can only imagine watching this arc without knowing the fates of Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul... Either way, I think Jesse has a part to play in Rex avoiding Order 66, but it feels like he'll probably die protecting the others. Rex at this point has already had his chip removed, so he's fine. It'll probably be a big escape between Ahsoka and Rex, with Maul as a bit of a wildcard maybe.
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Post by zuma on Apr 25, 2020 15:44:35 GMT -5
I still think the ROTS timeline is a bit iffy. A retcon of how a pregnancy works in Star Wars would be a bit weird.
You might still be able to explain the time jump in this episode if you say several weeks or months pass by between the scenes with Maul running off in his first meeting with Ahsoka, and the next scene where Ahsoka is talking to Obi-Wan. I'd have to rewatch to be sure, but I don't think anything is really in the way of saying the battle of Mandalore has been fought for a while and they've been searching for Maul in that time.
It could even make good sense in the way the clones have turned from assaulting force to occupying force in the meantime and how that state of affairs has begun to frustrate some of the Mandalorians
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Post by zuma on Apr 25, 2020 15:52:44 GMT -5
I can't imagine we'll get it, but I'd love to get a "farewell" scene between Ahsoka and Plo Koon.
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Post by Kenbo on Apr 25, 2020 16:41:58 GMT -5
I think this episode could very well be the best of the show. I can only imagine watching this arc without knowing the fates of Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul... Either way, I think Jesse has a part to play in Rex avoiding Order 66, but it feels like he'll probably die protecting the others. Rex at this point has already had his chip removed, so he's fine. It'll probably be a big escape between Ahsoka and Rex, with Maul as a bit of a wildcard maybe. Has that been said somewhere? People keep pointing out he doesn't have a scar. I'm thinking his chip will be activated but he will sort of override it with his "willpower"
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Post by zuma on Apr 26, 2020 3:39:59 GMT -5
Rex says he didn't betray his Jedi and that he had his chip removed. I guess if they really wanted to they could find a loophole in his wording though. He doesn't say when the chip was removed.
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Post by zuma on Apr 28, 2020 12:12:57 GMT -5
THis clip is just giving me all the feels...
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Apr 28, 2020 16:37:41 GMT -5
Let's face it. That "Keepers of the peace, not soldiers" line has been referenced one too many times with this show now
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Post by Echani on Apr 28, 2020 17:58:44 GMT -5
I'm really excited for the next episode. I'm mostly interested in Rex and how it all goes down with him. How does he have time to remove his chip and contact Wolffe before Order 66? I'm pretty sure Gregor is MIA at this point (correct me if I'm wrong) so contacting him and all can be done later I assume. He wouldn't tell Cody because he's very "by the books" but it surprises me he doesn't as I feel as if Rex is closer to Cody than Wolffe or Gregor. Maybe if he told Cody it would result in his execution or capture later as Cody served in the Empire. I think "shattered" will refer to the moment Order 66 is executed and Ashoka and Rex must kill members of the 501st, with Jesse receiving the order from Palpatine. From the scene with rex on the floor I can deduct three possibilities; he is either been hit by his troopers defending Ashoka, he is struggling combating the chip, or my most likely theory that Rex is on the ground because he cannot fathom killing his brothers, just as he can't fathom killing Ashoka. This last theory would truly express the dark nature of the end of the clone wars. I think I'll like Shattered the most out of all the episodes just because the "dark nature" of it, it's gonna be pretty difficult to decide between the last episode that came out and this one. I mean the mocap scene between Maul and Ashoka was downright beautiful. I'm really sensing my heart strings are gonna be pulled in this next one.
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Post by Newan on Apr 29, 2020 18:46:08 GMT -5
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2020 9:26:18 GMT -5
That was a pretty good episode, although I’m mainly sad that Monday will be the last one I feel like even with this story there’s could be a few more episodes left if they wanted. Honestly I kind of dislike that Ahsoka didn’t team with Maul... I totally expected her to free him but I wanted to see them together. I liked the ROTS stuff thrown in and how Ahsoka always just misses Anakin every time, could have changed a lot. Rex saw Anakin at the briefing I suppose. I’m really wondering how the next episode will play out now, I assume it’s just gonna be Rex and Ahsoka faking their deaths. It’s gonna be a lot for 25-30 minutes though... just really not sure how that last episode is gonna go. I wonder will they make it back to Coruscant or a different planet? I honestly assume they will team with Maul still...
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2020 9:42:35 GMT -5
Anakins passcode is the day the movie released btw...
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2020 9:59:15 GMT -5
Another eerie episode...
Honestly, I loved it. But I feel like all of this would have been so much better if they had released it after the other 2 full seasons we were promised.
Thought I heard there is a chance we will get more episodes, as one of the lead animators tweeted that if fans continue to show their excitement over these they will "keep making more". Might just refer to other series with the same animation style though... like a Rebels sequel... without crappy Rebels animation...
But I think Disney realizes TCW is much more popular than their movies and they might want to cash in on that....
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2020 9:59:59 GMT -5
I did kind of want Maul and Ahsoka to team up though. Or at least Ahsoka could have apologized to him for not believing him...
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2020 10:06:31 GMT -5
Wow okay... Yeah I didn't like this one bros... Really one thing kind of ruined it for me: It doesn't make any sense to perform fucking brain surgery when you are on a ship filled with people trying to kill you......... This totally fucked up the state of urgency
Let's compare it to Jaro and Cal who were in the exact same situation on board a Venator. Those two were trying to get off the ship as fast as possible. And Jaro didn't even make it which makes total sense because it's two Jedi against thousands of Clones whose only current objective is to kill them. Chances of survival are beyond slim. Yet Ahsoka is just here fucking around. Also she basically just sacrificed Maul. I mean obviously he doesn't die but realistically he would have been overwhelmed super fast
Idk. Figuring out how the inhibitor chips work in 30 seconds after watching a convenient YouTube video that a droid conveniently had access to AND removing the one inside Rex all while order 66 is happening doesn't make sense to me
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2020 10:10:16 GMT -5
The ROTS stuff was cool though. Sounded like they used the actual lines from Hayden and Ian McDiarmid. Still it's a bit strange to me to not see any of what's going on with Anakin. But idk I guess it makes sense.
Also a lot of the music sounded like Blade Runner lol. And the music that starts right after the Order was amazing. This episode would've been so much better if Rex had already removed the chip a while back
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2020 10:34:13 GMT -5
Also kind of weird Ahsoka suddenly has her lightsabers back with no explanation. I mean of course you will assume someone found them and returned them to her. But it felt sort of significant for her to lose them the way she did, it was as if they would be gone for good.
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Post by Pinda on May 1, 2020 11:53:08 GMT -5
Maul is the best Star Wars character.
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2020 13:08:22 GMT -5
Maul is the best Star Wars character. I’m still pretty mixed on that because at the end of the day his character really didn’t need to come back and honestly even if he hadn’t come back it doesn’t change much in the saga. His fate is still the same from the same person tbh... I’m like 90% certain he would have originally be revived and then killed again in this show. Idk while his stories were cool I still stand by my opinion that he returned to have cool action sequences/ lightsaber fights and because Dave and George reallt didn’t know how to drag out 8 seasons without doing something drastic like Maul.
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2020 13:10:03 GMT -5
Like ultimately a story arc like the Fives one in Season 6 actually revealed a lot to us about Sidious plan with the clones and order 66. Imo that is one of the biggest tie ins to the movies.
Maul doesn’t have that same effect in many ways...
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Post by Newan on May 1, 2020 13:16:20 GMT -5
So I was thinking about the voices... why did Ahsoka and Maul hear them? Did every Jedi hear that? Probably not.
Probably Ahsoka bond with Anakin in her case. Maul and Sidious probably have some sort of connection as well. Of course this was established with Dooku and Yoda in season 6.
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Post by Kenbo on May 1, 2020 14:53:38 GMT -5
So I was thinking about the voices... why did Ahsoka and Maul hear them? Did every Jedi hear that? Probably not. Probably Ahsoka bond with Anakin in her case. Maul and Sidious probably have some sort of connection as well. Of course this was established with Dooku and Yoda in season 6. I thought that was a little weird too. My theory/headcanon is they didn’t actually hear the voices exactly like that and it was more for the audience to establish the timeline. I think they just sort of heard screams and stuff from Jedi like what happened to Yoda but also sort of subconsciously knew who they were from. Sort of like the thoughts you might have when you’re dreaming about something... That probably doesn’t make any sense but yeah lol
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Post by zuma on May 1, 2020 15:12:32 GMT -5
I really liked the episode, not the a 10/10 maybe, but still good. Phantom Apprentice is still number one. But was cool, fun to see Rex struggling.
As for the voices, I think it could make sense that Ahsoka could feel Anakin because she was just standing there all calm and tapped in. Obi-Wan wouldn't because he was busy fighting.
As for Maul I think that's explainable too. He knew something was about to happen, so he knew to look out for it and tap into the Force to find out what he could. Almec said he's been doing that for weeks now.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 1, 2020 15:52:27 GMT -5
Not quite as good as the last, but my god, the tension is amazing. The fact you know what's about to happen just adds great suspense. Music was possibly the best part. You can tell everyone's working on all cylinders for this arc Don't have much of an issue with the voices bit, but I wish we had some more Maul.
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