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Post by Pinda on May 12, 2020 16:48:19 GMT -5
The issue is if you get involved with Luke it's hard not to get involved with the whole Ben Solo thing and then we're getting involved with the shitty ST movies and I don't want Ahsoka anywhere near that shitshow. They already ruined Luke's character. Just make the ST non-canon and get it over with. Yeah this is a problem. It is hard to be excited over any Star Wars show if you know it might tie into the Sequels... |
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Post by Pinda on May 12, 2020 16:51:17 GMT -5
The issue is if you get involved with Luke it's hard not to get involved with the whole Ben Solo thing and then we're getting involved with the shitty ST movies and I don't want Ahsoka anywhere near that shitshow. They already ruined Luke's character. Just make the ST non-canon and get it over with. Well look at it this way. With the Clone Wars revival they basically made an entire Ahsoka novel That was canon non-canon. Maybe we can hope for some escalation where they end up making both Rebels and the ST non-canon as well  For real though, I was utterly rooting for that trilogy to give us Luke's Order. Seeing it literally burn away as well as Luke's character assassination killed a part of my inner Star Wars fan. Making Rebels non-canon would open up so many interesting options for the time between ROTS and ANH. We could have Ahsoka looking for Anakin and confronting him (without an annoying kid running around). We could see Rex deal with the consequences of Order 66. We could see Maul create new plans to thwart Palpatine, maybe even have him join the Rebellion or create another rebellion of his own. I doubt they would do that though, it would upset a significant amount of fans and give them the option to declare TCW non-canon though. As for the Sequels... well those are already non-canon to me. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 12, 2020 17:04:26 GMT -5
Well look at it this way. With the Clone Wars revival they basically made an entire Ahsoka novel That was canon non-canon. Maybe we can hope for some escalation where they end up making both Rebels and the ST non-canon as well For real though, I was utterly rooting for that trilogy to give us Luke's Order. Seeing it literally burn away as well as Luke's character assassination killed a part of my inner Star Wars fan. Making Rebels non-canon would open up so many interesting options for the time between ROTS and ANH. We could have Ahsoka looking for Anakin and confronting him (without an annoying kid running around). We could see Rex deal with the consequences of Order 66. We could see Maul create new plans to thwart Palpatine, maybe even have him join the Rebellion or create another rebellion of his own. I doubt they would do that though, it would upset a significant amount of fans and give them the option to declare TCW non-canon though. As for the Sequels... well those are already non-canon to me. Ah, the possibilities are endlessly promising, my friend. It's why I really would prefer a series based just after ROTS instead of Rebels' timeline position. Would it really upset a significant amount? I mean, Rebels' fandom isn't exactly the most vocal part of the Star Wars community, assuming it's a decent size |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 12, 2020 17:05:28 GMT -5
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Post by zuma on May 12, 2020 17:15:47 GMT -5
Lol, I wonder if they'll have time to include Jin in season 2 That aside, I like the casting of Katee Sackhoff. She's cool. Although she's probably a bit on the young side for a post-ROTJ Bo-Katan. Sackhoff is only 40. I'm guessing Bo is maybe 30 during ROTS, so she'd be approaching 60 a few years after ROTJ lol. But I guess you can say she's a lot younger than Satine and just say she was in her early 20s during TCW or something, then Sackhoff would only be 10 years too young. |
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Post by zuma on May 12, 2020 17:23:37 GMT -5
The issue is if you get involved with Luke it's hard not to get involved with the whole Ben Solo thing and then we're getting involved with the shitty ST movies and I don't want Ahsoka anywhere near that shitshow. They already ruined Luke's character. Just make the ST non-canon and get it over with. Well look at it this way. With the Clone Wars revival they basically made an entire Ahsoka novel That was canon non-canon. Maybe we can hope for some escalation where they end up making both Rebels and the ST non-canon as well For real though, I was utterly rooting for that trilogy to give us Luke's Order. Seeing it literally burn away as well as Luke's character assassination killed a part of my inner Star Wars fan. Same here. I remember back in the original TCW days, I had headcanon, where Ahsoka rejoins the Jedi in Luke's Order. Could have been so cool to see. And it was so depressing seeing how sad Mark Hamill was about it, saying this wasn't his Luke Skywalker. And then of course Disney put him back in line... Imagine Hamill dreaming of going back to Luke all those years between ROTJ and Last Jedi. Then it happens and they tell him "the version of Luke that you and literally every Star Wars fan imagined isn't right. Actually he's a grumpy old weirdo who's lost all respect for the Jedi, completely failed to pass on what he learned like Yoda asked him, and dies unceremoniously after a fight he technically doesn't even show up for." |
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Post by zuma on May 12, 2020 17:25:56 GMT -5
All these rumors are weird. I believe Dave has said he felt Rebels ended in a good place and doesn't want to continue it. So if there is a sequel I think he might not be involved I only skipped through Rebels... but didn't it end on a cliffhanger? Kinda. Their main story was solved. They helped start the Rebellion etc, but during the battle Ezra and Thrawn disappear on a ship flying off in Hyperspace to an unknown area. Then an epilogue teases Ahsoka and Sabine heading off to search for Ezra after ROTJ. |
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Post by Kenbo on May 12, 2020 17:47:29 GMT -5
Hopefully Bo is just in a flash back where Gideon kills her or something.
I am tired of seeing characters returning and being old and washed up. It sucks, they're not the same characters people liked and enjoyed. Ahsoka, Rex, Maul, Hondo in Rebels were not that great. Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, and Lando were terrible in the sequels. Now Ashoka and Rex are even older and Bo-Katan will be too. It's so lame seeing these guys be up to the same shit as they were in their prime, decades later. I wish they would stop doing this but it seems to be the trend with post Disney stuff
The only people I would've liked to see in Mando would be Luke and Boba. Maybe Sabine and other significant Mandalorians in flashbacks.
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Post by Pinda on May 12, 2020 18:17:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't want the good characters anywhere nears this show. I am especially concerned about Ahsoka. She should not be here. She has too much character depth/development to be a show as void and lacking in emotion/plot as the Mandalorian.
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Post by Spidyyr on May 12, 2020 19:18:18 GMT -5
Damn they really need to spread these out. It sounds like a season long cameo fest, which really doesn’t inspire confidence in the actual story they’re going to tell.
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Post by Spidyyr on May 13, 2020 2:02:57 GMT -5
This is like the entire cast of Breaking Bad showing up in Season 2 of Better Call Saul.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with bringing back old characters. But it seems like Mando is going to meet nearly every fan favorite character we know is alive at the time over a pretty short period. That makes the galaxy feel pretty small.
And adding to that is nearly every character is being portrayed in some new way, whether it’s a new actor taking over or even a live action take on a character we’ve only seen in animation. Makes you wonder if they’re really gonna take the time to get each of them right.
This would be worrying if it were over a 20 episode season. But this one presumably will come in at around 8. Is there gonna be any time for story in this?
I feel like there’s gonna be even more wheel spinning in Season 2. Like every episode Mando and Baby Yoda will go to some planet, have a pretty inconsequential adventure with an established character and then move on like nothing happened.
And fans will eat it up because (fill in the blank) was in it, never mind that they didn’t do anything interesting.
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Post by Spidyyr on May 13, 2020 2:04:31 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't want the good characters anywhere nears this show. I am especially concerned about Ahsoka. She should not be here. She has too much character depth/development to be a show as void and lacking in emotion/plot as the Mandalorian. I don’t want to be cynical, but so far this show has produced 0 characters who are better than “passable.” Where is the writing? |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 13, 2020 5:28:12 GMT -5
Lol, I wonder if they'll have time to include Jin in season 2 That aside, I like the casting of Katee Sackhoff. She's cool. Although she's probably a bit on the young side for a post-ROTJ Bo-Katan. Sackhoff is only 40. I'm guessing Bo is maybe 30 during ROTS, so she'd be approaching 60 a few years after ROTJ lol. But I guess you can say she's a lot younger than Satine and just say she was in her early 20s during TCW or something, then Sackhoff would only be 10 years too young. Meh, aging has always been a funny thing in Star Wars, so I'm not too concerned. I mean, Obi-Wan looked a lot older than late 50s in ANH |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 13, 2020 5:31:29 GMT -5
Well look at it this way. With the Clone Wars revival they basically made an entire Ahsoka novel That was canon non-canon. Maybe we can hope for some escalation where they end up making both Rebels and the ST non-canon as well For real though, I was utterly rooting for that trilogy to give us Luke's Order. Seeing it literally burn away as well as Luke's character assassination killed a part of my inner Star Wars fan. Same here. I remember back in the original TCW days, I had headcanon, where Ahsoka rejoins the Jedi in Luke's Order. Could have been so cool to see. And it was so depressing seeing how sad Mark Hamill was about it, saying this wasn't his Luke Skywalker. And then of course Disney put him back in line... Imagine Hamill dreaming of going back to Luke all those years between ROTJ and Last Jedi. Then it happens and they tell him "the version of Luke that you and literally every Star Wars fan imagined isn't right. Actually he's a grumpy old weirdo who's lost all respect for the Jedi, completely failed to pass on what he learned like Yoda asked him, and dies unceremoniously after a fight he technically doesn't even show up for." I don't get why people find his change of character in TLJ to be so great though Feels like they just made an unexpected character move for the sake of being unexpected. Also, that toss of his family lightsaber is just plain awful. There's no way Lucas would've done the same to Luke. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 13, 2020 5:33:03 GMT -5
This is like the entire cast of Breaking Bad showing up in Season 2 of Better Call Saul. There’s nothing inherently wrong with bringing back old characters. But it seems like Mando is going to meet nearly every fan favorite character we know is alive at the time over a pretty short period. That makes the galaxy feel pretty small. And adding to that is nearly every character is being portrayed in some new way, whether it’s a new actor taking over or even a live action take on a character we’ve only seen in animation. Makes you wonder if they’re really gonna take the time to get each of them right. This would be worrying if it were over a 20 episode season. But this one presumably will come in at around 8. Is there gonna be any time for story in this? I feel like there’s gonna be even more wheel spinning in Season 2. Like every episode Mando and Baby Yoda will go to some planet, have a pretty inconsequential adventure with an established character and then move on like nothing happened. And fans will eat it up because (fill in the blank) was in it, never mind that they didn’t do anything interesting. I'm starting to suspect it'll be less a second season and more a series of backdoor pilots for other projects |
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Post by Newan on May 13, 2020 8:06:58 GMT -5
All these rumors are weird. I believe Dave has said he felt Rebels ended in a good place and doesn't want to continue it. So if there is a sequel I think he might not be involved I only skipped through Rebels... but didn't it end on a cliffhanger? Thrawn and Ezra disappear.... honestly I hope they end up in Thrawns homelands in the unknown regions. Exploring the Ascendancy would be cool |
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Post by Newan on May 13, 2020 8:08:45 GMT -5
Wait that’s who voices Bo? She was in Longmire, she’s a decent actress...
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Post by Spidyyr on May 13, 2020 9:34:16 GMT -5
This is like the entire cast of Breaking Bad showing up in Season 2 of Better Call Saul. There’s nothing inherently wrong with bringing back old characters. But it seems like Mando is going to meet nearly every fan favorite character we know is alive at the time over a pretty short period. That makes the galaxy feel pretty small. And adding to that is nearly every character is being portrayed in some new way, whether it’s a new actor taking over or even a live action take on a character we’ve only seen in animation. Makes you wonder if they’re really gonna take the time to get each of them right. This would be worrying if it were over a 20 episode season. But this one presumably will come in at around 8. Is there gonna be any time for story in this? I feel like there’s gonna be even more wheel spinning in Season 2. Like every episode Mando and Baby Yoda will go to some planet, have a pretty inconsequential adventure with an established character and then move on like nothing happened. And fans will eat it up because (fill in the blank) was in it, never mind that they didn’t do anything interesting. I'm starting to suspect it'll be less a second season and more a series of backdoor pilots for other projects Like the Iron Man 2 of TV seasons. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 13, 2020 11:21:51 GMT -5
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Post by Spidyyr on May 13, 2020 11:25:45 GMT -5
I wish they'd at least keep it to Mandalorians right now, as it makes sense Oberyn would run in to them. Like just having Bo-Katan in Season 2 would be enough and would have me fairly hyped. And maybe Boba is teased again and then has a presence in Season 3. And if those are handled well then sure, maybe bring in Ahsoka and Rex after that.
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 18, 2020 14:24:55 GMT -5
I swear if they throw Thrawn in as well, then I think it'd be pretty prudent to assume this season will have too much to stuff in 8 episodes.
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Post by Kenbo on May 18, 2020 16:20:10 GMT -5
I swear if they throw Thrawn in as well, then I think it'd be pretty prudent to assume this season will have too much to stuff in 8 episodes. Are you talking about the Timothy Olyphant casting? I think he has the face structure for Thrawn but I'm not sure if he could play him well. From what I've seen he has more of a laid back surfer/Chad persona/voice lol I do feel like they might show Thrawn if they want to tie it in with Rebels... It's really sad though the show could've easily stood alone. At most show Luke and Boba. But all these animated show characters is too much. I am almost certain I will dislike this season |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on May 18, 2020 16:53:19 GMT -5
I swear if they throw Thrawn in as well, then I think it'd be pretty prudent to assume this season will have too much to stuff in 8 episodes. Are you talking about the Timothy Olyphant casting? I think he has the face structure for Thrawn but I'm not sure if he could play him well. From what I've seen he has more of a laid back surfer/Chad persona/voice lol I do feel like they might show Thrawn if they want to tie it in with Rebels... It's really sad though the show could've easily stood alone. At most show Luke and Boba. But all these animated show characters is too much. I am almost certain I will dislike this season Personally I'd prefer they save Thrawn for a TCW style series about the Alliance fighting him in the aftermath of ROTJ and at least partially adapt the Thrawn trilogy. I feel like lightning could strike twice if they made it happen. |
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Post by Spidyyr on May 18, 2020 16:55:30 GMT -5
I swear if they throw Thrawn in as well, then I think it'd be pretty prudent to assume this season will have too much to stuff in 8 episodes. Are you talking about the Timothy Olyphant casting? I think he has the face structure for Thrawn but I'm not sure if he could play him well. From what I've seen he has more of a laid back surfer/Chad persona/voice lol I do feel like they might show Thrawn if they want to tie it in with Rebels... It's really sad though the show could've easily stood alone. At most show Luke and Boba. But all these animated show characters is too much. I am almost certain I will dislike this season Seen him in Deadwood and the Office. Idk he definitely has range. |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 20, 2020 12:48:59 GMT -5
Trailer dropping in next couple days I think
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 20, 2020 15:06:46 GMT -5
Trailer dropping in next couple days I think Considering the all-stars they've put in, this should get some serious attention from people I'd bet good money on there being some Boba Fett money shot at the end |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 20, 2020 15:52:07 GMT -5
Trailer dropping in next couple days I think Considering the all-stars they've put in, this should get some serious attention from people I'd bet good money on there being some Boba Fett money shot at the end I do really want Boba tbh. I want Mandalorian to give us the Legends post ROTJ content that the sequels didn't deliver. Imperial remnant with the warlords, Jedi Luke, Boba surviving sarlacc, etc. |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 20, 2020 16:42:46 GMT -5
Considering the all-stars they've put in, this should get some serious attention from people I'd bet good money on there being some Boba Fett money shot at the end I do really want Boba tbh. I want Mandalorian to give us the Legends post ROTJ content that the sequels didn't deliver. Imperial remnant with the warlords, Jedi Luke, Boba surviving sarlacc, etc. Still find it mental how Boba's not the titular Mando. It would've been great if instead it focused on his aftermath of the sarlacc, maybe start to gain a new perspective after that kind of near death experience. In Legends he ended up as Mandalore and I feel the show could've helped see him grow from selfish, unfeeling bounty hunter, to a more humbled, noble person who starts to care about his heritage. Certainly would've had more depth than the shallow kiddy pool that is Din Djarin |
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Post by Kenbo on Aug 20, 2020 17:51:12 GMT -5
I do really want Boba tbh. I want Mandalorian to give us the Legends post ROTJ content that the sequels didn't deliver. Imperial remnant with the warlords, Jedi Luke, Boba surviving sarlacc, etc. Still find it mental how Boba's not the titular Mando. It would've been great if instead it focused on his aftermath of the sarlacc, maybe start to gain a new perspective after that kind of near death experience. In Legends he ended up as Mandalore and I feel the show could've helped see him grow from selfish, unfeeling bounty hunter, to a more humbled, noble person who starts to care about his heritage. Certainly would've had more depth than the shallow kiddy pool that is Din Djarin I think Boba as the main character for their "space western" would've made a lot of sense. I mean he was based on the Man with no Name anyway from his design drawn from Eastwood's poncho to the quiet, few words kind of personality. But they kinda gave that whole shtick to Din. I don't want to say he's knock off Boba I mean I think they're at least kinda different. Din definitely has a softer side to him that works a lot better for a main protagonist. Boba is more of a bad guy tbh. I suppose he could've had character development and changed but maybe he doesn't necessarily need to. I guess I don't mind him being more of a secondary character or antagonist. I think he could definitely have a really cool presence on the show. It's kinda weird how everyone suddenly doesn't like Boba now though. I think perhaps some of it comes from George's decision to declare him and Jango non-Mandalorians (which I don't understand...). A lot of people consider him overrated and want him to stay dead from the sarlacc and whatnot. Personally I think he's cool as hell its because of him we have all the Mandalorian lore |
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Post by Maverick-Jedi-Valen on Aug 21, 2020 3:23:17 GMT -5
Still find it mental how Boba's not the titular Mando. It would've been great if instead it focused on his aftermath of the sarlacc, maybe start to gain a new perspective after that kind of near death experience. In Legends he ended up as Mandalore and I feel the show could've helped see him grow from selfish, unfeeling bounty hunter, to a more humbled, noble person who starts to care about his heritage. Certainly would've had more depth than the shallow kiddy pool that is Din Djarin I think Boba as the main character for their "space western" would've made a lot of sense. I mean he was based on the Man with no Name anyway from his design drawn from Eastwood's poncho to the quiet, few words kind of personality. But they kinda gave that whole shtick to Din. I don't want to say he's knock off Boba I mean I think they're at least kinda different. Din definitely has a softer side to him that works a lot better for a main protagonist. Boba is more of a bad guy tbh. I suppose he could've had character development and changed but maybe he doesn't necessarily need to. I guess I don't mind him being more of a secondary character or antagonist. I think he could definitely have a really cool presence on the show. It's kinda weird how everyone suddenly doesn't like Boba now though. I think perhaps some of it comes from George's decision to declare him and Jango non-Mandalorians (which I don't understand...). A lot of people consider him overrated and want him to stay dead from the sarlacc and whatnot. Personally I think he's cool as hell its because of him we have all the Mandalorian lore That decision of George's is one of his more peculiar ones It would be interesting to have an answer from him on why he did that. I suspect those people haven't seen some of his EU stuff where they made him a lot more layered, such as him trying to settle down and start a family, but it all goes tragically wrong. Still, I think a lot of fans fail to appreciate his influence in making the Mandalorians a thing in the first place |
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